Israel: 'State of war' declared after thousands of rockets fired from Gaza Strip

[holdover]

Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis are literally on the Iranian payroll.

As much as the Mujahideen were on the US payroll in the 80s.

Everybody knows this,

Yes, but that doesn't mean they can use Iranian navy and air force to attack Israel,

 

[holdover]

No, it depends on the facts.

None of which you know without trusting *someone*, since you aren't there.

It depends on the law and the facts. And I havent been to gaza in a few days so your right, I dont know, You dont know. but not knowing gives me reason to ask . Its perfectly legit .

 

[spat]

Yes, but that doesn't mean they can use Iranian navy and air force to attack Israel,

No, just like the US Nrmy can't use M1 Abrams to attack Hezbollah.

But you can't say that means the Navy can't wipe out Hezbollah.

You would say the US can.

Just like Iran is a real threat to Isreal. Claiming their one irregular terrorist arm isn't is irrelevant.

 

[spat]

It depends on the law and the facts. And I havent been to gaza in a few days so your right, I dont know, You dont know. but not knowing gives me reason to ask . Its perfectly legit .

International law is not quite as concrete as national law.

And nobody's stopping you from questioning things. We're just saying your particular brand of moral equivalency is problematic.

It really smells a lot like the leftist notion that because Isreal is far stronger, they *must* be the bad guys.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[Defilade]

Israel will instantly turn its back on America to the highest bidder. Already has. Always will. Israel = Coerced vaxxing, LBGT, sex-changes-pushing…like Blue-America. Bibi Netanyahu is WEF/CCP. Openly. Not even vaguely hidden.

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[fresch]

How is it that if x amount of your people are killed you can only kill x amount of the attackers people?

 

[kev74]

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Oops. Too late.

 

[spat]

How is it that if x amount of your people are killed you can only kill x amount of the attackers people?

How is it when your enemy is promising to continue intentionally targetting your civilians , people will still claim you can't fight back.

Hamas member says they will repeat attacks until Israel is destroyed

Ghazi Hamad, a senior member of Hamas, has welcomed the large-scale attack on Israel on 7 October, during which civilians were killed en masse, and promised that the Palestinian terrorist group would ...

news.yahoo.com

 

[GTN]

How is it when your enemy is promising to continue intentionally targetting your civilians , people will still claim you can't fight back.

Hamas member says they will repeat attacks until Israel is destroyed

Ghazi Hamad, a senior member of Hamas, has welcomed the large-scale attack on Israel on 7 October, during which civilians were killed en masse, and promised that the Palestinian terrorist group would ...

news.yahoo.com

And that right there is why Israel should and has every right to continue with what they are doing.

Edit: let’s say your family has 6 kids and there is a large gang that lives next door. They come over and kill one of your kids and vow to come kill more of them next week.
Do you go over there and kill just one or do you go kill them all before they kill more of your family.
Seems simple to me

 

[kev74]

Still trying to figure out what a "proportionate" response is to the unprovoked kidnapping, raping, dismembering and murdering civilians.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Come on man. you act as if hundreds of people are being killed everyday . Isreali defense forces do a pretty good job protecting its people. theres no chance in hell Hamas can wipe out isreal . none . in what scenario do you see them defeating the Isreali army? they have no armor, no airforce No navy , and are out numbered.And the US to back them up Please. Look at them right now , they almost surrounded, cut off from food and water and supplies.

Proportionate to the percentage of population, what happened in that first day would be equal to over 30,000 US citizens being killed in one day. I can only imagine your reaction to that day in and day out. Nope, you didn't piss me off. It's just that with each and every point brought up last night and this morning I see, you ignore the logic and revert back to your right to question. Sure, question away. You just seem to be a one string banjo.

 

[Dr. Evil]

And that right there is why Israel should and has every right to continue with what they are doing.

Edit: let’s say your family has 6 kids and there is a large gang that lives next door. They come over and kill one of your kids and vow to come kill more of them next week.
Do you go over there and kill just one or do you go kill them all before they kill more of your family.
Seems simple to me

I tried this last night. Obviously I wasn't too successful lol.

 

[wirehairfan]

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I didn't think it was possible but you've outdone yourself.

 

[GTN]

This thread has become nothing but a pissing match. It started off great as a reporting of what was going on. Now it’s just opinions of what should be done and what shouldn’t be done and it’s obvious there’s certain people here that just hate Jews.
And yes, I do take the anti-Jew comments personally because all I really care about is if my family is still alive

 

[Bigfoot]

This thread has become nothing but a pissing match. It started off great as a reporting of what was going on. Now it’s just opinions of what should be done and what shouldn’t be done and it’s obvious there’s certain people here that just hate Jews.
And yes, I do take the anti-Jew comments personally because all I really care about is if my family is still alive

Another forum that I belong to has two threads on this subject. One thread is only for reporting of what was/is going on. The second thread is for opinions like what this thread has turned into.
It works out pretty well like that.

 

[spat]

Proportionate to the percentage of population, what happened in that first day would be equal to over 30,000 US citizens being killed in one day. I can only imagine your reaction to that day in and day out. Nope, you didn't piss me off. It's just that with each and every point brought up last night and this morning I see, you ignore the logic and revert back to your right to question. Sure, question away. You just seem to be a one string banjo.

Proportionally, Oct 7th was a bigger attack than Pearl Harbor.

For pearl harbor we utterly annihilated their military, largely rewrote their culture, and dropped the sun on them. Twice.

 

[spat]

no Im not. the problem is that can be used to hit anything anytime they want . without verification sky is the limit . What targets cant they hit? tell me?

Why *would* Isreal want to hit a non military target ?

Isreal is conducting a military campaign to exterminate Hamas and the threat they created.

It is against their interests to hit anything else. Particularly any civilian targets.

Hamas OTOH explicitly claim to be conducting a terror campaign *designed* around striking civilian targets and avoiding military ones when possible.

So, yea, I believe Isreal when they say something wasn't a civilian target. Because it's not in their interest to strike them.

And I also believe Hamas when they throw a parade because they killed some school children.

The real question is why do *you* think Isreal would intentionally target a civilian camp or hospital ?

I think the answer to that question says a lot about you.

 

[Deplorable Me]

How to deal with Hamas Tunnels:

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

The first casualty of war is truth

paraphrased

attributed : Aeschylus ?459 BC; Senator Hiram Johnson 1919,

 

[holdover]

Still trying to figure out what a "proportionate" response is to the unprovoked kidnapping, raping, dismembering and murdering civilians.

yeah.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Still trying to figure out what a "proportionate" response is to the unprovoked kidnapping, raping, dismembering and murdering civilians.

Hey, where's your proof? Hamas told me themselves they just targeted the military and not civilians. I heard it with my own ears. They wouldn't lie.

 

[tirwin1]

ok so your advocating for the killing of 2 million people . I Cant go any further with this . You may want to check if Hillary Clinton has any staff openings.

Your ignorance of history is revealing.

 

[Phazer]

And that right there is why Israel should and has every right to continue with what they are doing.

Edit: let’s say your family has 6 kids and there is a large gang that lives next door. They come over and kill one of your kids and vow to come kill more of them next week.
Do you go over there and kill just one or do you go kill them all before they kill more of your family.
Seems simple to me

Well phrased.

 

[Steal2B]

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

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[Steal2B]

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Subsequent snapshots in the thread showed that Military air traffic has in fact jumped up to dispell the post it was speculation to create panic. Increased air traffic by itself, however, only means there is increased air traffic and does not point to any root or contributing cause. It is just a data point.

 

[FrankenCub]

There's always a lot of military air traffic above the US. More training could account for more traffic on any day.
To really see what's going on look at the specific aircraft. There's a lot of Beachcraft T6, Northrup T38, Gulfstream 5, Beachcraft B350 etc. Lot of executive type traffic and training craft.

 

[Steal2B]

 

[holdover]

The real question is why do *you* think Isreal would intentionally target a civilian camp or hospital ?

I think the answer to that question says a lot about you.

Oh I dont know

Your ignorance of history is revealing.

Really how so?