Expert on Squatters Warns Nation: We’re in for a ‘Nightmare’Once Illegal Immigrants Discover Housing Law Loopholes

[livingston]

Expert on Squatters Warns Nation: We’re in for a ‘Nightmare’ Once Illegal Immigrants Discover Housing Law Loopholes​

America’s housing law loopholes are just big enough for illegal immigrants to crawl through, according to one expert who warns that tenants’ rights laws make it hard to dislodge squatters.
We have masses coming in. They’re going to be looking for places to live. And if we don’t have the housing for them, if they’re coming in with no money, they can’t rent the traditional way,” Flash Shelton, founder of the United Handyman Association and SquatterHunters.com, said, according to Fox News.
Once illegal immigrants get wind of the rights they have as squatters, “our squatter situation is going to go beyond control,” Shelton said.

Squatter Expert Warns Nation: We're in for a 'Nightmare' Once Illegal Immigrants Discover Housing Law Loopholes

When America's squatting problem and the flood of illegal immigrants combine, it will be a nightmare, one expert predicts.

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[Robin]

What a bunch of legal bullshit, Criminal Trespass is on the books, use it. More smoke and mirrors.
Robin

 

[Catskillkid]

This happened to a friend of mine. I forget the whole story but his girlfriend's family owned a house in Virginia I believe. Long story short, parents died and the house was empty while they were settling the estate and was so for some time. Come to find out that a family of illegals (Guatemala if I remember correctly) were squatting there. They were paying utilities in their name. It took them a LONG time to dislodge them and had to go to court in Virginia on multiple occasions.

I don't know what Virginia's laws are exactly but NY now has several tenants rights laws that were recently passed. In a sense they are good since if a tenant can prove that the landlord isn't maintaining the property to keep it habitable the tenants can use that as a possible defense during eviction (I have issues with this to some degree but I get it) but I could certainly see it being abused.

 

[livingston]

I know of a person in Ohio that would buy homes for like 20,000 fix them up to be livable and rent them out to section 8 . One home he decided to let the bank have it . A squatter moved in and the furnace died. Needed a new one . Judge said his name was still on the deed ... Ordered a new furnace be installed ... Squatter was living there for a long time before he was forced out. One trick they play is they move someone else in and land lord does not know even the name . So it is impossible to draw up court papers on a john doe ... to even start a court ordered eviction process

 

[Dr. Evil]

Going on in Atlanta as we speak.

 

[spat]

I know of a person in Ohio that would buy homes for like 20,000 fix them up to be livable and rent them out to section 8 . One home he decided to let the bank have it . A squatter moved in and the furnace died. Needed a new one . Judge said his name was still on the deed ... Ordered a new furnace be installed ... Squatter was living there for a long time before he was forced out. One trick they play is they move someone else in and land lord does not know even the name . So it is impossible to draw up court papers on a john doe ... to even start a court ordered eviction process

Such people are prone to just up and leave without a trace.

Hard to file a missing person's report on a John Doe.

Just saying.

 

[S&W Fan]

Such people are prone to just up and leave without a trace.

Hard to file a missing person's report on a John Doe.

Just saying.

Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms.

 

[Zerex]

Happened in Rome a while back....vacant home.....someone from California gave a quit claim deed to squatters for the Rome address.................they are gone..................end of story......... that I understand might have violated squatters rights.

Happened across the street from me.........guy died....his divorced girlfriend owned the home, even though she lived elsewhere...

Dead guy's corrupt sons and ex wife moved right in.........claimed the house by right of succession but the deed was clear..."tennants by the entirety" A category, wherein when one deed owner dies in NYS, the other owns the home 100%...........no heirs allowed. Most deeds are just Warranty Deeds and the squatters could have stayed..


Took the real owner from 2007 to 2010 to evict them.

Squatteers will attack homes, and take them over........as Schumer planned for........aunt Jemima will defend their rights to take back what has been stolen from them.

 

[Jmac00]

easy fix.

get 20 of your friends together, buy a new door with a new door lock. Go to YOUR PROPERTY and break in, throw the squatters out as fast as humanly possible, change the door and the lock, then call the police and tell them these people just showed up and demanded I let them live in my house. If they are illegal aliens, you should be ok.

If a squatter can legally break in and live there.........so can the home owner, TIT-FOR_TAT

 

[Saltwater60]

I can’t see how squatter can be protected. There’s no contract and no meeting of the minds between parties. I should legally be able to call the police and if the squatter/tenant can’t produce any sort of documentation that they are legally allowed to be there they should be arrested and removed for B&E. This country disgusts me at times and this is one of the times.

 

[holdover]

This might help

 

[Catskillkid]

I can’t see how squatter can be protected. There’s no contract and no meeting of the minds between parties. I should legally be able to call the police and if the squatter/tenant can’t produce any sort of documentation that they are legally allowed to be there they should be arrested and removed for B&E. This country disgusts me at times and this is one of the times.

In NYS the only legal way you can remove squatters from a premises is through a summary proceeding (basically an eviction). Now, technically it should be easy to prove when you go to court (no lease, rental agreement, etc.) but with some you never know what some liberal activist judges will do. Not to mention you have to wait (weeks or in some cases months) to get a court date and wait weeks or months before the Sheriff's Department can arrange to be present and execute the eviction.

A bit off topic but there's a difference between "squatters" and "holdovers." Essentially holdovers are when the lease is up and the tenant stops paying rent but doesn't vacate the premises. You still have to go through a summary (eviction) proceeding with them but both parties acknowledge that there was, at one time, at least an agreement of some sort in place (no such thing with squatters).

For the record, I've done a fair number of holdover evictions in my tenure as judge. I've never done a true squatter eviction.

 

[livingston]

Border Crisis is nightmare scenario for Squatting​

 

[Deplorable Me]

Apparently there are several third world countries that are currently vacant. Anyone in for a relocation and group buy? In time the US government would be sending us funds and military aid.

 

[livingston]

Squatter tenancyIn New York, if the squatter lived in the property for at least 30 days, they are considered a legal tenant. This means you cannot unilaterally evict them or have the police evict them. You would be forced to get a judicial eviction.Sep 20, 2023

https://www.nadelassociates.com/blog/2023/09/do-squatters-have-rights-in-new-york/#:~:text=Squatter%20tenancy,to%20get%20a%20judicial%20eviction.

 

[fresch]

Apparently there are several third world countries that are currently vacant. Anyone in for a relocation and group buy? In time the US government would be sending us funds and military aid.

The movie
The Mouse That Roared

 

[SomeSoldier]

Great thing about squatters, they are not expected anywhere.

 

[MothMan]

who is responsible for legal firearms in a squatted house?

 

[Apeman]

This just shows how fucked up our government is.

"Squatters rights" shouldn't even be a thing. There shouldn't be laws saying who can be removed or not. If they don't own it - they're out. If they're not paying rent - they're out.

 

[ManualF150]

This just shows how fucked up our government is.

"Squatters rights" shouldn't even be a thing. There shouldn't be laws saying who can be removed or not. If they don't own it - they're out. If they're not paying rent - they're out.

The reason they come to the ol'e UseSaaA is to use American land to take over our once great nation. They see the loop holes like squatting to get land ownership.

Ain't that fucked up?

Why are the people of America letting this happen?

I'm sickened by all of this each and every day.

 

[Jmac00]

I can’t see how squatter can be protected. There’s no contract and no meeting of the minds between parties. I should legally be able to call the police and if the squatter/tenant can’t produce any sort of documentation that they are legally allowed to be there they should be arrested and removed for B&E. This country disgusts me at times and this is one of the times.

and they are probably here illegally, they have no rights or standing

 

[FRANKIE]

This is all a matter of prevention.
Never Ever, under any circumstances
Let them become tenants in the first place.
Anything else is a B&E.

 

[fresch]

I feared for my life, I need a lawyer.

 

[pshift]

If they are squatters and undocumented (illegal aliens), just break into your house at 2 am with a couple of your bros, beat the crap out of them, drive them to an undisclosed location in the trunk of your car at least 20 miles from your house, and dare them to call the police.

 

[Apeman]

If they are squatters and undocumented (illegal aliens), just break into your house at 2 am with a couple of your bros, beat the crap out of them, drive them to an undisclosed location in the trunk of your car at least 20 miles from your house, and dare them to call the police.

I agree with your plan but if you try that in a liberal state you're screwed. Illegals have more rights than us law abiding citizens here in NY.

 

[FP1201]

I know of a person in Ohio that would buy homes for like 20,000 fix them up to be livable and rent them out to section 8 . One home he decided to let the bank have it . A squatter moved in and the furnace died. Needed a new one . Judge said his name was still on the deed ... Ordered a new furnace be installed ... Squatter was living there for a long time before he was forced out. One trick they play is they move someone else in and land lord does not know even the name . So it is impossible to draw up court papers on a john doe ... to even start a court ordered eviction process

I wonder how it would work out to have a "squatter" of your own, move in while the current one is outside, or beat the fuck out of them and toss their shit outside claiming they were here and the now pummeled shot-bag is the one trying to force their way in?
When you deal with evil, you too must become even more evil than that which you fight, but must also remember the way back home.

 

[FRANKIE]

What even complicates things more on this topic, is the fact that the recent “Scamdemic” uncovered a whole new arsenal of tricks and trinkets to use against unsuspecting law abiding property owners. These liberal created weapons and tactics are regularly used by all deadbeat -nonpaying -lowlife scumbags,
Foreign and domestic.

 

[Saltwater60]

In NYS the only legal way you can remove squatters from a premises is through a summary proceeding (basically an eviction). Now, technically it should be easy to prove when you go to court (no lease, rental agreement, etc.) but with some you never know what some liberal activist judges will do. Not to mention you have to wait (weeks or in some cases months) to get a court date and wait weeks or months before the Sheriff's Department can arrange to be present and execute the eviction.

A bit off topic but there's a difference between "squatters" and "holdovers." Essentially holdovers are when the lease is up and the tenant stops paying rent but doesn't vacate the premises. You still have to go through a summary (eviction) proceeding with them but both parties acknowledge that there was, at one time, at least an agreement of some sort in place (no such thing with squatters).

For the record, I've done a fair number of holdover evictions in my tenure as judge. I've never done a true squatter eviction.

Thanks for that and the background. I don’t agree with it one bit for either a squatter or a holdover but my opinion doesn’t matter. Nothing good can come of it for the landlord because most times I’d imagine there is damage or they are losing income. I will never own a rental ever. My grandmas house is an ill lower rental and I’m not interested one bit in buying it. My old house I sold I had a lady that wanted to rent it for $509-$600/month more than my mortgage and I told her nope I’m selling it. In hindsight I wish I’d have kept it and rented it because I sold it 10 years ago and I’d have made $100,000 more but then would have gotten whacked with taxes.
In both of these situation the police should be able to be called and told an unauthorized person is living in my home. The holdover the paperwork of they need to be out by 2/24 shown and it’s 2/27 today so an officer goes over and removes them that day and your belongings are forfeited since they had warning to be out. As for the squatters landlord has no paperwork, squatter has no paperwork ok good bye get out now or be arrested. At this point someone owns everything on most states. I get in rural Alaska where you can squat on someone’s land but not here.

 

[Zerex]

The first case in Rome, squatters had a "quitclaim deed" from a guy in Cali...............cops refused to intervene..said to get a lawyer.
Home had been in the fam for 50 years+NEVER SOLD...........but it was vacant during renovations.

Squatters disappeared.............end of story. I was not there........moved to Ohio, I heard.

That was a good ending, but most are not going to be.

LOCK UP.

 

[livingston]

Caretaker-turned-squatter in Queens: Sewage flood, money demands and other allegations emerge in NYC suburb​

Brett Flores' attorney claimed the Landas were 'not the victims as they described'​

Caretaker-turned-squatter in Queens: Sewage flood, money demands and other allegations emerge in NYC suburb

The ongoing legal fight between a couple who purchased a property in Queens, New York and a man said to be squatting in the house will be heard in court next month.

www.foxnews.com