John Deere laying off hundreds and moving work to Mexico

[Saltwater60]

Of course it’s John Deere’s fault and they are greedy. It has nothing to do with Joe Biden’s policies.

‘Greed’: John Deere rolls out hundreds of US layoffs and sends work to Mexico — Guardian US

Agricultural equipment company plans to move production out of the country in move workers condemn as ‘greed’

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[Day444]

Wasn’t it that POS Clinton that made a deal with Mexico? Didn’t this deal, start the downward spiral of American manufacturing? And what did the USA get in return? More wet backs crossing an unsecured border, a flood of drugs, and gang related crime.
So fuck John Deere, another iconic American company getting flushing in the ever spinning shitter!

 

[Acer-m14]

i'm still waiting for a reply form john deer on a new tractor if it comes with a repair manual and the software for my laptop to fix it
when it dies in the middle of the corn field ..

crickets ..

 

[GOPerfect]

Greed and horrible policies go hand in hand

 

[kev74]

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Back in 1988 was the very last John Deere product i ever bought. Greedy pricing & repairs pushed me away.

Its been no secret, MADE in MEXICO has been stamped or cast into their tractors for quite awhile.
Go look at the framework of their Backhoe`s and Frontend Loaders.... MADE IN MEXICO!

Thank you for leaving the country john deere, your services are no longer needed.

 

[ManualF150]

I'm a Kubota guy.... and I can say parts are a lot easier to get for the orange machines.

 

[Criticalt]

Juan Ciervo doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

[JaguarJaguarGolf]

What tractors, consumer yard machines etc... are made in the USA?
The last riding mower I bought was a Snapper more than 20 years ago.
I see either a new machine in my future, or a move to a retirement beach.

 

[GOPerfect]

Back in 1988 was the very last John Deere product i ever bought. Greedy pricing & repairs pushed me away.

Its been no secret, MADE in MEXICO has been stamped or cast into their tractors for quite awhile.
Go look at the framework of their Backhoe`s and Frontend Loaders.... MADE IN MEXICO!

Thank you for leaving the country john deere, your services are no longer needed.



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And, this is how things should work. They close plants in the US.

Americans get angry, they stop buying the products.

They move back.

 

[Willyone]

So what's the problem? USA & Mexico are now "one"

 

[fresch]

Or, they go out of business and all the workers can learn to code.
like every business in the U.S. minimum wage, benefits, etc, costs keep rising.
Greed said the unions, haha right. They need to back and start a not for profit factory and see how that works out for them.

I didn't understand back when Nixon opened up chi-na why we would trade with our " enemies " . I do now, slave labor; just like how we use black sites for interrogation. With the wef we now see they all are in on it; the technology changes, man not so much.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

So what's the problem? USA & Mexico are now "one"

I was thinking the same thing. Looks like John Deere is staying put right where they are.

 

[Saltwater60]

i'm still waiting for a reply form john deer on a new tractor if it comes with a repair manual and the software for my laptop to fix it
when it dies in the middle of the corn field ..

crickets ..

You’ll get it in a few months in Spanish.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I would prefer buying shit made in Mexico vs shit from china. But that's not the right answer, it's the lesser of 2 evils. That's like a comparison between a turd sandwich and a giant douche.

The problem is globalism and greed. Clintons NAFTA deal bent america over. We lost good paying jobs building quality products consumers were satisfied with and they were replaced with similar versions that cost about the same and are shit and unreliable and not as durable but the companies producing them increased their profits by reducing labor and expenses but still sell the inferior products for the same price as they used to be when made in America.

Now they say they can't "re-shore" manufacturing anymore because it's too expensive.

That's a lie. It's just not as profitable, that's the truth. Less profits for their bottom line and shareholders, less bonus for the "C suite types".

It's all bullshit

 

[kev74]

So what's the problem? USA & Mexico are now "one"

They should be using our mexicans to make the tractors not their mexicans!

 

[Willyone]

I would prefer buying shit made in Mexico vs shit from china. But that's not the right answer, it's the lesser of 2 evils. That's like a comparison between a turd sandwich and a giant douche.

The problem is globalism and greed. Clintons NAFTA deal bent america over. We lost good paying jobs building quality products consumers were satisfied with and they were replaced with similar versions that cost about the same and are shit and unreliable and not as durable but the companies producing them increased their profits by reducing labor and expenses but still sell the inferior products for the same price as they used to be when made in America.

Now they say they can't "re-shore" manufacturing anymore because it's too expensive.

That's a lie. It's just not as profitable, that's the truth. Less profits for their bottom line and shareholders, less bonus for the "C suite types".

It's all bullshit

Of course wages/labor here in the US costs more than Mex, chy-na, etc. But also, US business/manufacturing and products are over regulated.
There's a thread going on here about exterior deck finishes. We can't get a product here in NYS that protects a wood deck for more than a season or two. And I have a friend that was in the Hardwood flooring business. Years ago he complained about how the current floor coatings and urethanes have been regulated such that they don't hold up to foot traffic like they should. He said at the time, the best wood floor products are the prefinished flooring imported from Mexico, because in Mex they use good quality surface finishing products.

 

[Saltwater60]

They should be using our mexicans to make the tractors not their mexicans!

Our Mexicans are stilled paid union wages and environmental regulations still increase costs. I know this was a bit of a joke but the left is making it too costly to do business in the USA and that’s a problem.

 

[ManualF150]

Our Mexicans are stilled paid union wages and environmental regulations still increase costs. I know this was a bit of a joke but the left is making it too costly to do business in the USA and that’s a problem.

I still can't believe NY wants to bring in chip fab. The toxic chemicals from chip and board manufacturing is best suited for less-regged countries like China.

Only thing I see about chips and boards being made in the USA is them to cost more $$$$$.

Either reduce the environmental regs or GTFO and don't do it at all.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I still can't believe NY wants to bring in chip fab. The toxic chemicals from chip and board manufacturing is best suited for less-regged countries like China.

Only thing I see about chips and boards being made in the USA is them to cost more $$$$$.

Either reduce the environmental regs or GTFO and don't do it at all.

As always their plan is to offer crazy tax breaks and incentives to bring new business in so they can show the voters how great they are. As soon as the incentives expire and are not renegotiated the company will then look at scaling back production, moving or downsizing.

 

[SonOfSun]

Fuck John Deere.

They've been making shit in Mexico for a while now. Oh, and they actively prevent farmers from fixing their own equipment so they can rape them on repairs. Newer tractors require the John Deere tech software and they won't sell it or let you have it. Many replacement parts are needlessly forced to be 'activated by that software to work, so even if you can actually do the work and replace the part, that still won't fix the tractor.

Why Are Farmers Battling for the Right to Fix Their Own Tractors?

American farmers are the quintessential do-it-yourself businesspeople. Yet tractor manufacturer John Deere forbids them from attempting to repair their agricultural machinery when it breaks down. But change could be coming.

www.governing.com

 

[Willyone]

Fuck John Deere.

They've been making shit in Mexico for a while now. Oh, and they actively prevent farmers from fixing their own equipment so they can rape them on repairs. Newer tractors require the John Deere tech software and they won't sell it or let you have it. Many replacement parts are needlessly forced to be 'activated by that software to work, so even if you can actually do the work and replace the part, that still won't fix the tractor.

Why Are Farmers Battling for the Right to Fix Their Own Tractors?

American farmers are the quintessential do-it-yourself businesspeople. Yet tractor manufacturer John Deere forbids them from attempting to repair their agricultural machinery when it breaks down. But change could be coming.

www.governing.com

It's not just farm equipment. It's the same with engines and transmissions, and prolly other vehicle systems, on many or maybe most every day vehicles. After manufacturers stopped making the relatively simple carbureted vehicles and went to computer controlled efi, that was the beginning of the end of simple repairs. I've ridden motorcycles for over 55 years. Maintenance and mods were easy to do, until computers controlled the bikes. Back in the day I was able to upgrade cams and other components, change jetting on the carbs, tweak the timing, and down the road we go. That simplicity is no more. I installed upgraded cams in my current 2015 Indian. After the cam change, a computer nerd at the dealer had to download a "stage 2" tune, which kept the bike running. I ended up downloading a tune myself from another source (a company able to break into the 'puter and modify the tune) to make it run as it should. Now, apparently a couple of years ago Indian (owned by Polaris) caught on to what guys were doing, and somehow locked the computers making it more difficult to crack the codes. I expect it's the same for cars, trucks, whatever rolls down the road.

99% of this BS is due to government mandated save the planet shit. Gov. controls the vehicle manufacturers and after market, and fines the shit out of them if they do not comply. No doubt gov is responsible for the manufacturers making maintenance and the once simple modifications more difficult AND more expensive. FU.GOV...

Hello, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.... RUN...RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN !!

 

[Bustedknees]

Reading through here makes me feel better about my Kubota purchase.

 

[FP1201]

Reading through here makes me feel better about my Kubota purchase.

I don't want to pop you balloon, but Orange stuff isn't any cheaper, reliable, or serviceable than Green, or Blue, or Red....When I worked on Post we had 'em all...Kubota's had to go back to the Dealer and so did Polaris.

 

[ManualF150]

I don't want to pop you balloon, but Orange stuff isn't any cheaper, reliable, or serviceable than Green, or Blue, or Red....When I worked on Post we had 'em all...Kubota's had to go back to the Dealer and so did Polaris.

The older Kubotas (pre-2004) are best. Pretty much metal everything. No emissions.

 

[Grimscale]

To build a Jeep you have to reprogram for new tire size, gear ratio, etc. Even something as simple as swapping the headlights and taillights for LED require a setting to be changed in the computer.
If you can even find a dealership willing to do so they will charge you an exorbitant rate for it.
Thankfully the aftermarket support has been able to crack Fiat's encryption and there are multiple devices that allow the owner to change settings. You just have to make sure the dealership doesn't flash the computer with the new tune on it or it wipes all of your settings and bricks your reprogrammer.

 

[Saltwater60]

I still can't believe NY wants to bring in chip fab. The toxic chemicals from chip and board manufacturing is best suited for less-regged countries like China.

Only thing I see about chips and boards being made in the USA is them to cost more $$$$$.

Either reduce the environmental regs or GTFO and don't do it at all.

We’ll see they kick and choose what to enforce the environmental regulations on. They did on the rare earth magnets and now china controls the majority of the market so now they want them made here again and same with chips. They want to make polluting companies purchase carbon credits but steel making is exempt because it’s so energy heavy it would put them out of business allowing china to make more steel. But natural gas they say will go up 80% because of this and will likely die. Gasoline will go up heavily as well. So I guess the oil and gas producers support the republicans but the steel makers donate to dems.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I'm a Kubota guy.... and I can say parts are a lot easier to get for the orange machines.

Same here! Kubota got our money back in 2017 when we needed a new tractor. Zero problems, zero regrets.

 

[SonOfSun]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/07/business/john-deere-mass-layoffs-2024/index.html

Effective August 30, about 310 employees will be laid off at two Iowa-based plants in Dubuque and Davenport, as well as 280 from a factory in East Moline, Illinois.............the Illinois-based company shifts production to a newly planned facility in Ramos, Mexico.

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The decision is the latest in a string of production layoffs by the farm-equipment manufacturer over the past year. Deere has sought to reposition itself as a technology company amid falling agricultural revenue in the United States.


As I said above here: John Deere laying off hundreds and moving work to Mexico

They are only going to get more aggressive and anti-farmer. They don't want to make money building and selling machinery any more. Instead they want to rape you for "tech service" on things that don't actually need tech service. Instead of selling you the machinery as a one time cost, they want to lock you into paying service fees forever.

Don't walk away from John Deere, Run Run Run!

 

[Uzi]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I only buy American designed and assembled products. I don't care where it's made, but if it's not shipped from an American address, they can shove it up their ass!

On a serious note we are doomed as a country. If you can afford to boycott 99.99% of businesses and corporations, god bless your heart. American made, right here in the USA and a few other places too.

We don't produce much of anything these days, let alone anything that's affordable for the average worker and middle class. There use to be a time I remember when people didn't have to finance everything they bought just to survive. I'm just glad John Deere is helping to fight this by lowering their costs so they can pass the savings on to the consumer.