New Yorkistan crap has infected Bass Pro / Cabela’s in Free America

[VietnamEraVet]

So tonight, I went to purchase a couple of 15 round magazines for my Shield Plus Performance Center 9mm EDC. I had shopped around and with my military discount, Cabela’s had the best price, and they are about 1 mile from home. So off I went.

And they had them in stock.

When I went to check out, the clerk demanded to see my driver’s license! I said “these aren‘t legally restricted here in South Carolina,- WTF?”. He responded that it was Cabela’s nationwide policy to not sell ANY magazines over 10 rounds without verifying that the purchaser is NOT from a state that restricts magazines over 10 rounds,- such as New Yorkistan. Of course, this gun will never go with me when I visit NY as it isn’t on my NY CCW.

What a pile of shit! (And speaking of piles of shit…) Jumbo James rides again! Ugh! I feel like writing to the President of Cabela’s for all of the good it will do.

In the end, I bought them there since I had gotten the Shield there at a great price,- $300 instead of the normal $599. A side note,- I had bought it on Clearance, and found out why when I got it home that the trigger had a minor problem that I could fix, but as Smith has a lifetime warranty on it, I had them repair it. And what a GREAT experience that was! Called them up toll free; explained the issue; they sent me free 2 day FEDEX shipping label. They repaired it and returned in about 2 weeks, again by FEDEX 2 day, w/ adult signature required. Kudo’s to S&W for that! Yet another reason why I buy US stuff whenever possible.

 

[Modean]

Huh, that was not my experience in Florida a month ago at Bass Pro. Maybe a store thing?

 

[spat]

With luck the fight between TX and the NY doctor who prescribed the abortion pills will put a stop to this shit.

NY is the state that decided they could reach out and punish companies anywhere in the country they don't like.

Going to be real hard for them to argue against TX and the abortion pills while still trying to force gun companies to do their bidding elsewhere.

 

[togmaster]

Take your business elsewhere. Cabelas used to be great then came Bass Pro. Now I just avoid them both.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

You can't really fault them for having a corporate policy they believe will prevent them from getting sued, but they have no obligation to enforce a law that doesn't apply in the state the transaction is occurring. Those dumb policies are being pushed by the BoD and shareholders with ESG guidelines.

 

[Darth]

The real fun is when that happens at a place and you whip out a CCW from another free state to cover.

 

[ManualF150]

The real fun is when that happens at a place and you whip out a CCW from another free state to cover.

You know, I've always wondered this.

I have a valid Utah permit, and obviously there is no mag limit there or with the states that recognize it. I should be allowed to purchase a standard (in Free America) capacity magazine in NY and say I am going to "transport" it out of state. Whether I do or not (right away) is no ones business.

All these damn infringements.

It's also interesting, I got a BGC for work, a BGC w/finger prints for both the NY/UT pistol permits. Don't you think that is enough vetting for a person to go through to have a pee shooter?! I should be allowed to have whatever the hell I want at this point. At this point, I'm vetted more than most police officers are.

 

[C3D]

Don't blame BP/Cabelas. Blame Tish James, who made a point to sue any dealer doing business with anyone from New York for any reason. Cabelas is just being cautious.

 

[ManualF150]

Don't blame BP/Cabelas. Blame Tish James, who made a point to sue any dealer doing business with anyone from New York for any reason. Cabelas is just being cautious.

Reminds me of some gun stores in PA and VT closer to the NY border. There are a few shops I avoid because they get all antsy with NYers. Shitty.

 

[C3D]

Reminds me of some gun stores in PA and VT closer to the NY border. There are a few shops I avoid because they get all antsy with NYers. Shitty.

Yes it's BS, but if a shop is going to need to spend $250,000 on lawyers to make a $25 magazine sale, well I get it. I don't like it, but I get it.

 

[Brawny71]

So tonight, I went to purchase a couple of 15 round magazines for my Shield Plus Performance Center 9mm EDC. I had shopped around and with my military discount, Cabela’s had the best price, and they are about 1 mile from home. So off I went.

And they had them in stock.

When I went to check out, the clerk demanded to see my driver’s license! I said “these aren‘t legally restricted here in South Carolina,- WTF?”. He responded that it was Cabela’s nationwide policy to not sell ANY magazines over 10 rounds without verifying that the purchaser is NOT from a state that restricts magazines over 10 rounds,- such as New Yorkistan. Of course, this gun will never go with me when I visit NY as it isn’t on my NY CCW.

What a pile of shit! (And speaking of piles of shit…) Jumbo James rides again! Ugh! I feel like writing to the President of Cabela’s for all of the good it will do.

In the end, I bought them there since I had gotten the Shield there at a great price,- $300 instead of the normal $599. A side note,- I had bought it on Clearance, and found out why when I got it home that the trigger had a minor problem that I could fix, but as Smith has a lifetime warranty on it, I had them repair it. And what a GREAT experience that was! Called them up toll free; explained the issue; they sent me free 2 day FEDEX shipping label. They repaired it and returned in about 2 weeks, again by FEDEX 2 day, w/ adult signature required. Kudo’s to S&W for that! Yet another reason why I buy US stuff whenever possible.

Welcome to the revolution. The NYS law holding anyone in the process liable got a lot of Corps attention. Same reason some places won’t sell you ammo.

 

[Robin]

You can't really fault them for having a corporate policy they believe will prevent them from getting sued, but they have no obligation to enforce a law that doesn't apply in the state the transaction is occurring. Those dumb policies are being pushed by the BoD and shareholders with ESG guidelines.

Well, yeah you can. They and others like them make billions from people like us and should be the vanguard in protecting our rights. Like all those companies that refused NY E-trade because that commie AG made threats when no actual law existed. Fuck them all, they have deep pockets and even deeper pockets if they banded together and went on the offense against tyrants like fat Laticia. So again, fuck them all and their selfish short sightedness, which will eventually cause them to have empty pockets.
Robin

 

[4 paws]

but they have no obligation to enforce a law that doesn't apply in the state the transaction is occurring

This exactly. That may be some corporate policy but certainly no legal mandate.

 

[Brawny71]

The real fun is when that happens at a place and you whip out a CCW from another free state to cover.

Many don’t care. They go off your drivers license since you are only suppose to have one of those and it is suppose to be your home state. Same for buying in another state. If you have their drivers license; no issue. Otherwise gotta go to a FFL in your state.

 

[Brawny71]

This exactly. That may be some corporate policy but certainly no legal mandate.

Correct. Comes down to Corporate liability and your sale isn't a bump in their ROI plan compared to a 1:1000 law suit from a State.

 

[Koz]

I used to really like Cabelas and to a lesser extent, Bass Pro Shop, but between their policies and quality they are rapidly becoming a cross between Dick's and K-Mart. I've been to both brick and mortar stores in the past month and was amazingly underwhelmed with each.

 

[Brawny71]

I used to really like Cabelas and to a lesser extent, Bass Pro Shop, but between their policies and quality they are rapidly becoming a cross between Dick's and K-Mart. I've been to both brick and mortar stores in the past month and was amazingly underwhelmed with each.

Support your local small businesses. They can use it.

 

[ManualF150]

Support your local small businesses. They can use it.

Now that powder and primers and other reloading components are in stock at most of my LGS, I shop there, even if its a tee bit higher.

It's nice to throw the stuff in my truck and drive home with it rather than dealing with shipping from Natchez and other online venues.

Problem is, every time I go to the LGS, I want to buy another gun.

Last year I bought another gun, but I should've put that into more reloading equipment. This year no gun, but I need a few items for the reloading bench, so that is where that money will be spent.

 

[That_FNG]

It’s because under nys law any business that is located out of state but ships products to residents in nys is considered as doing business in nys and thus subject to nys laws. It’s how nys goes after business in other states who don’t have a physical presence here. That’s why so many businesses are scared of nys.

 

[Koz]

Support your local small businesses. They can use it.

I am a small business, so that is always my first choice and first recommendation, but on these particular road trips I was looking for some fly fishing stuff. Sadly, there isn't a local, or even regional small business to fit those needs.

 

[ManualF150]

It’s because under nys law any business that is located out of state but ships products to residents in nys is considered as doing business in nys and thus subject to nys laws. It’s how nys goes after business in other states who don’t have a physical presence here. That’s why so many businesses are scared of nys.

One thing I hate is the whole tax scenario we got going in most states for online purchases. Like say I buy something in TN online, I still get charged NYS sales tax. I should be paying the TN local tax for where that business is located at. It should not be based off of the buyer's address. It should be no different than me in the actual storefront, going up to the cashier with my goods and paying for them right there.

I think it's Idaho, Utah, and Arkansas that doesn't participate in that nonsense. At least the venues I buy from, don't charge out of state sales tax.

 

[Cooolone]

No offense, but you complain yet fed the trolls and their anti 2A policies by purchasing anyways? It only reinforces their delirium!!!

These type of ridiculous offenses should be met with complete resistance! Let those mags or whatever sit there and rot on the shelf!

Is just my humble opinion as I would rather pay more, than support any ridiculous bullshit like that! If it's not required by law, then fuck you (them) very much!

No artificial encumbrances... What next, they take a picture and record WHO made the purchase too? The register/use of any electronic payment will do the same. Did ya pay in cash? Lol...

Again, just my personal take and preference... I would never allow myself to succumb to any policy not required by law.

 

[Brawny71]

One thing I hate is the whole tax scenario we got going in most states for online purchases. Like say I buy something in TN online, I still get charged NYS sales tax. I should be paying the TN local tax for where that business is located at. It should not be based off of the buyer's address.

I think it's Idaho, Utah, and Arkansas that doesn't participate in that nonsense. At least the venues I buy from, don't charge out of state sales tax.

It’s also because of the NYS law allowing liability of anyone in the manufacture to sale process should someone misuse.

 

[Justincase]

I won’t ever buy a gun from them again since they put trigger locks on all their guns and won’t let you feel the trigger.

 

[ManualF150]

I am a small business, so that is always my first choice and first recommendation, but on these particular road trips I was looking for some fly fishing stuff. Sadly, there isn't a local, or even regional small business to fit those needs.

I run a small business too. NY taxes kill me.

I heard Maryland is downright disgusting what they put businesses through, especially if you try to relocate your business!

 

[ManualF150]

I won’t ever buy a gun from them again since they put trigger locks on all their guns and won’t let you feel the trigger.

There was a scenario when a friend bought a brand new gun from Cabelas/Bass Pro and it had the trigger lock on it. They got it home and found that it was broken from the factory as the trigger wasn't functionally working. He fought with them, and nope, deal with the gun manufacturer. Man was he absolutely livid.

 

[dean3690]

Well, yeah you can. They and others like them make billions from people like us and should be the vanguard in protecting our rights. Like all those companies that refused NY E-trade because that commie AG made threats when no actual law existed. Fuck them all, they have deep pockets and even deeper pockets if they banded together and went on the offense against tyrants like fat Laticia. So again, fuck them all and their selfish short sightedness, which will eventually cause them to have empty pockets.
Robin

The tyrant Letitia James does this over and over again under color of law where no law exists. Remember when the USPS stopped partially finished receivers from reaching New Yorker's under her direction before the CCIA or any "ghost gun" legislation came into effect? She uses the power of her office and the NYS tax payers money to enforce an agenda in an illegal fashion because she has the power and the money to do it. Reminds me of the last 4 years of Biden and the 8 years of Obama before that.

 

[Brawny71]

The tyrant Letitia James does this over and over again under color of law where no law exists. Remember when the USPS stopped partially finished receivers from reaching New Yorker's under her direction before the CCIA or any "ghost gun" legislation came into effect? She uses the power of her office and the NYS tax payers money to enforce an agenda in an illegal fashion because she has the power and the money to do it. Reminds me of the last 4 years of Biden and the 8 years of Obama before that.

USC 18 Section 242. Deprivation of Rights under color of law.

18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

 

[thughes]

The real fun is when that happens at a place and you whip out a CCW from another free state to cover.

I would assume that only DL or state-issued ID showing residence would be acceptable to these assholes? Yes, I agree 100% that a CCW is valid ID but it does not prove residence since, as you point out, one can obtain a non-resident CCW.

 

[Darth]

I would assume that only DL or state-issued ID showing residence would be acceptable to these assholes? Yes, I agree 100% that a CCW is valid ID but it does not prove residence since, as you point out, one can obtain a non-resident CCW.

Worked at the place I tried it with . Not a Bass Pro though.

And I never went there again.

We have enough bad laws to deal with. Last thing we need is those "on our side" playing hero.