New Yorkistan crap has infected Bass Pro / Cabela’s in Free America

[Rocpo]

It’s because under nys law any business that is located out of state but ships products to residents in nys is considered as doing business in nys and thus subject to nys laws. It’s how nys goes after business in other states who don’t have a physical presence here. That’s why so many businesses are scared of nys.

You mean like ny doctors who send abortion pills to children against that states laws and then are shielded from arrest by a lawless state office holder?

 

[Saltwater60]

Their gun department in NYS is a joke. You have to sign in at the one by me with name address and phone number to wait to speak to one of the first class morons that work there. They are absolutely clueless and know nothing of guns. Add in all guns must have a trigger lock on them and can’t be removed, and the ammo is now locked up in a back room it’s insane. It’s a joke. I buy fishing gear and shoes from them and that’s about it. It’s sad because all the national firms will stop selling guns because of crap like this and people like us not buying them but I just can’t. I can’t buy a gun from them.

 

[ManualF150]

Their gun department in NYS is a joke. You have to sign in at the one by me with name address and phone number to wait to speak to one of the first class morons that work there. They are absolutely clueless and know nothing of guns. Add in all guns must have a trigger lock on them and can’t be removed, and the ammo is now locked up in a back room it’s insane. It’s a joke. I buy fishing gear and shoes from them and that’s about it. It’s sad because all the national firms will stop selling guns because of crap like this and people like us not buying them but I just can’t. I can’t buy a gun from them.

Anytime I buy manufactured, which is exceedingly rare now a days, I need to open the box and inspect what is inside. Mainly due to the respect that most if not all ammo sales are FINAL.

First to make sure it's what I am buying in the box, and secondly to make sure the ammo physically looks acceptable to use.

I have come across rare situations where I'm cheated out of ammo or the ammo looks like it was drowning in humidity and I had to reject it. I much prefer handling my own ammo so mix ups and other problems done arise too.

There is a LGS that isn't too far from me that still keeps their ammo so the customers can pick it up, inspect it, and turn around and do the BGC and pay for it. I asked if he cares if he gets in trouble, and he said, NO!". That is the only place where I'll buy ammo from in NYS.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Troops. I bought WD-40 at Tractor Supply and they asked to see my license because of NY law. It's a nanny state.

 

[FP1201]

I used to really like Cabelas and to a lesser extent, Bass Pro Shop, but between their policies and quality they are rapidly becoming a cross between Dick's and K-Mart. I've been to both brick and mortar stores in the past month and was amazingly underwhelmed with each.

I just can't buy from the Big Chain/Box Stores as I'm used to wholesale level pricing...I carried a BP/Cabella's Gift card for almost a year before actually using it to buy some Socks and a Shirt off the Clearance Rack, and only then because the Hotel we stayed was across the Parking lot from there...I'll stop at the BP in Utica on the way through so I can Pee, otherwise that's about it.

 

[ManualF150]

Troops. I bought WD-40 at Tractor Supply and they asked to see my license because of NY law. It's a nanny state.

I occasionally get the strange look from places buying diesel fuel additives like PowerService or HotShots EDT. I tell them, what you, think I'm going to snort it or drink it to get a high off it? I tell'em, there's better stuff in this store to do that.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Move to a free state. Where have I heard that before?

 

[thughes]

There is a LGS that isn't too far from me that still keeps their ammo so the customers can pick it up, inspect it, and turn around and do the BGC and pay for it.

I'm sorry, but I still find myself laughing uncontrollably at the thought of a BGC just to buy boolits.

 

[Podmonkey]

Those stores are overpriced to a laughable degree. Either get from your LGS to support them or order online where you get the best price. I do both., I order magazines in larger quantities online and piecemeal from my LGS.

 

[Bigfoot]

Troops. I bought WD-40 at Tractor Supply and they asked to see my license because of NY law. It's a nanny state.

I get it, the exact same thing happened to me.

 

[Bigfoot]

I'm sorry, but I still find myself laughing uncontrollably at the thought of a BGC just to buy boolits.

As a 12-13-year-old kid in the 1970's I would buy boolits at the hardware store in town with no questions asked.

Sometimes, my parents would send me to the store to get them a couple packs of cigarettes.
I'd get their packs of smokes from the store clerk with no questions asked, and with what money was left over, I'd usually get myself a milkshake.

I miss the country that I grew up in. When freedom and common sense were actually a thing.

The other day, I had to show my ID when buying a can of brake cleaner. C'mon man.
Not only that, I'm 61 years old. What's the problem? I'm obviously not 4 year old with a long grey beard.

Ho Lee Fuk man, what the hell is going on? Has common sense ah fuck it never mind. lol

 

[ManualF150]

As a 12-13-year-old kid in the 1970's I would buy boolits at the hardware store in town with no questions asked.

Sometimes, my parents would send me to the store to get them a couple packs of cigarettes.
I'd get their packs of smokes from the store clerk with no questions asked, and with what money was left over, I'd usually get myself a milkshake.

I miss the country that I grew up in. When freedom and common sense were actually a thing.

The other day, I had to show my ID when buying a can of brake cleaner. C'mon man.
Not only that, I'm 61 years old. What's the problem? I'm obviously not 4 year old with a long grey beard.

Ho Lee Fuk man, what the hell is going on? Has common sense ah fuck it never mind. lol

For those that remember OTB (Off Track Betting), my dad would frequent that place, and they'd have the cigarette vending machine at the front by the door. I remember my dad handing me money to feed to machine to get him a fresh pack of cigs.

I also remember days during the important races, the place would so packed and filled with people smoking, that you could barely see the TV sets. I still remember this one dude smoking a cigarette and a cigar at the same time during the race when the horses were neck to neck and waiting for the photo finish to pop up to see if he got his payout. Lucky SOB won good that day too.

I still remember when I won $10 that I bet on a horse. Dad was proud of me.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Well, yeah you can. They and others like them make billions from people like us and should be the vanguard in protecting our rights. Like all those companies that refused NY E-trade because that commie AG made threats when no actual law existed. Fuck them all, they have deep pockets and even deeper pockets if they banded together and went on the offense against tyrants like fat Laticia. So again, fuck them all and their selfish short sightedness, which will eventually cause them to have empty pockets.
Robin

Corporations are only obligated to satisfy their shareholders, and the taxman.

 

[Robin]

Thats, legal obligation, and a bit shortsighted with considerable leeway.
Robin

 

[ecarfar]

So tonight, I went to purchase a couple of 15 round magazines for my Shield Plus Performance Center 9mm EDC. I had shopped around and with my military discount, Cabela’s had the best price, and they are about 1 mile from home. So off I went.

And they had them in stock.

When I went to check out, the clerk demanded to see my driver’s license! I said “these aren‘t legally restricted here in South Carolina,- WTF?”. He responded that it was Cabela’s nationwide policy to not sell ANY magazines over 10 rounds without verifying that the purchaser is NOT from a state that restricts magazines over 10 rounds,- such as New Yorkistan. Of course, this gun will never go with me when I visit NY as it isn’t on my NY CCW.

What a pile of shit! (And speaking of piles of shit…) Jumbo James rides again! Ugh! I feel like writing to the President of Cabela’s for all of the good it will do.

In the end, I bought them there since I had gotten the Shield there at a great price,- $300 instead of the normal $599. A side note,- I had bought it on Clearance, and found out why when I got it home that the trigger had a minor problem that I could fix, but as Smith has a lifetime warranty on it, I had them repair it. And what a GREAT experience that was! Called them up toll free; explained the issue; they sent me free 2 day FEDEX shipping label. They repaired it and returned in about 2 weeks, again by FEDEX 2 day, w/ adult signature required. Kudo’s to S&W for that! Yet another reason why I buy US stuff whenever possible.

That's been my experience too, not just at Bass Pro but at "regular" gun shops out of state too. I'm on Long Island and my son moved up to New Hampshire. There's one of the best gun stores in the world in Hooksett called Shooter's Outpost. They have, literally, everything. Whenever we visit, I stop there and get my ammo...no tax, no transfer fees. They always check my license for everything I buy. I was up there once, and my son was with me, and I offered to buy him a semi-auto .22 "bug out" gun from Henry. The salesman said I couldn't pay for it even though the gun would be my son's. We would literally have to go outside the store, I'd give him cash and then he could buy it. They will not sell me any magazine over 10 rounds...forget even buying a pistol or semi auto rifle. They also don't accept Amex as it's not a 2A friendly credit card!

 

[ecarfar]

Their gun department in NYS is a joke. You have to sign in at the one by me with name address and phone number to wait to speak to one of the first class morons that work there. They are absolutely clueless and know nothing of guns. Add in all guns must have a trigger lock on them and can’t be removed, and the ammo is now locked up in a back room it’s insane. It’s a joke. I buy fishing gear and shoes from them and that’s about it. It’s sad because all the national firms will stop selling guns because of crap like this and people like us not buying them but I just can’t. I can’t buy a gun from them.

Wow...completely different with the one I go to in New Hampshire...they have an incredible firearm dept.

 

[Brawny71]

Yep. The NYS law has a lot of Corporations showing their true colors unfortunately. Spend accordingly. Also, support the small shops.

 

[jimc]

Yep. The NYS law has a lot of Corporations showing their true colors unfortunately. Spend accordingly. Also, support the small shops.

I think this has more to do with companies falling over themselves to support whoever is the current government for their own best interest. It's on both sides. Look at the social media companies who all of a sudden are trying to please Trump. Sean Hannity who never cared about EV's is now orgasming over Musk and his Teslas on every show. No one has real morals that they follow anymore.

 

[Brawny71]

I think this has more to do with companies falling over themselves to support whoever is the current government for their own best interest. It's on both sides. Look at the social media companies who all of a sudden are trying to please Trump. Sean Hannity who never cared about EV's is now orgasming over Musk and his Teslas on every show. No one has real morals that they follow anymore.

I honestly think it is a business decision made primarily by the lawyers and numbers folks. They loose 1% of sales doing this, avoid costly bs law suits and negative publicity AND even those who disagree with their actions WILL STILL SHOP THERE.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I honestly think it is a business decision made primarily by the lawyers and numbers folks. They loose 1% of sales doing this, avoid costly bs law suits and negative publicity AND even those who disagree with their actions WILL STILL SHOP THERE.

Sad but true, myself included. Whenever possible, I do try to shop at the small, locally owned shops near me. One fine example down here is Nichols Store in Rock Hill, SC, - and they get my money. I'm not going to completely avoid purchasing at the big box stores if the deal is way too good to pass up though. Like getting a $600 gun for $300 as I did.

 

[FP1201]

Sad but true, myself included. Whenever possible, I do try to shop at the small, locally owned shops near me. One fine example down here is Nichols Store in Rock Hill, SC, - and they get my money. I'm not going to completely avoid purchasing at the big box stores if the deal is way too good to pass up though. Like getting a $600 gun for $300 as I did.

People are going to bitch and complain for a variety of reasons about the LGS, but in the end the few that haven't folded up are all that'll be left: We saw this when the internet came into its own with plenty of FFL's that would receive that "deal" you got on the internet, there was ammunition that could be sent to you Door without question, and now EVERYTHING has to go through a NY Licensed Dealer.
A Man much wiser than me once admonished "Everyone's got to eat." So support your local Gun Shop. even if he's a Tool.

 

[jimc]

I honestly think it is a business decision made primarily by the lawyers and numbers folks. They loose 1% of sales doing this, avoid costly bs law suits and negative publicity AND even those who disagree with their actions WILL STILL SHOP THERE.

I totally agree that it's a business decision, but it's just empty BS to help themselves. Very few companies (or people) stand with their values. They do whatever is best for them at the time. I don't recall anyone here saying it was 'just a business decision' during the Budweiser / Dylan Mulvaney debacle. Everyone on the right was 'canceling' Budweiser. I'm sure Budweiser just wanted to get some extra cash from that community.

 

[Koz]

Unless the sh!t really hits the fan, I won't be needing to buy any ammo or guns for that matter. So, in that respect Horchul can kiss my lilly white a$$. However both my son and D-I-L are in the process of getting their CC permits (they took the ridiculous 16 hour class, sent in their completed app and are now in the NYS holding pattern). I would like to either give them a gun or 2 or at least oversee their purchase(s) if they want. I will definitely give them a few hundred rounds of ammo if I have it (pretty sure I do ).