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I had no idea Iran looked like that. It looks like a very clean NYC
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Same in North Korea. Just watch the state sponsored videos. You can even book a trip there.
Who did you bomb to make that happen? Which one of you is Israel?
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prambo
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Watched half of it.
Saw a lot of nice stuff, possibly propaganda, but there were NO women flashing huge boobs.
I was hosed.
prambo
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Haven't yet come to a point where I think this was a good or a bad thing.
No one really knows whether there was weapons-grade uranium available or not - I think it's instructive to remember the Gulf of Tonkin "incident" and "Iraq has WMDs". Both were purposeful, complete and utter bullshit.
And Americans died...for fucking nothing.
And the agencies that might know that - CIA, British Intelligence, Mossad, etc. - aren't known for their verbosity or ever telling the truth when they do say something.
Presently, I don't like that all of a sudden, Neo-Con shitweasels like Lindsey Graham, Adam Kinzinger, Mike Pence, and probably John Bolton, are patting Trump on the back.
There's no way in fucking hell I'll ever get completely behind this because of that - I hate fucking warmongering Neo-Cons...they're the NSDAP of the present day fUSA.
I guess it's now just that "YMMV" and wait to see what, if anything, comes of this.
No one really knows whether there was weapons-grade uranium available or not - I think it's instructive to remember the Gulf of Tonkin "incident" and "Iraq has WMDs". Both were purposeful, complete and utter bullshit.
And Americans died...for fucking nothing.
And the agencies that might know that - CIA, British Intelligence, Mossad, etc. - aren't known for their verbosity or ever telling the truth when they do say something.
Presently, I don't like that all of a sudden, Neo-Con shitweasels like Lindsey Graham, Adam Kinzinger, Mike Pence, and probably John Bolton, are patting Trump on the back.
There's no way in fucking hell I'll ever get completely behind this because of that - I hate fucking warmongering Neo-Cons...they're the NSDAP of the present day fUSA.
I guess it's now just that "YMMV" and wait to see what, if anything, comes of this.
livingston
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Well said
I'm not sure when our last OFFICIAL war was.
We usually weasel out of that.
Lots of "Police Actions" and covert activities.
No sweat.
Combining the threads is awesome.
The mods made it easy for us.
Thank you
Iran has been boasting of its Nuclear Ambitions for 46 years.
I believe there is ample evidence of their Centrifuge purchases. I think from Germany?
Though Iran may be making their own now.
And it's not just the US that believes they were building a bomb.
The only deniers seem to be American Democrat Communists. Who lust for power more than they value anyone's life.
I believe there is ample evidence of their Centrifuge purchases. I think from Germany?
Though Iran may be making their own now.
And it's not just the US that believes they were building a bomb.
The only deniers seem to be American Democrat Communists. Who lust for power more than they value anyone's life.
This would be only a small view of the thousands reported to be within Fordow.
science.howstuffworks.com
Iran began its centrifuge effort in the late 1980s with know-how obtained from the notorious proliferation network led by the late Pakistani metallurgist A.Q. Khan. Khan stole centrifuge designs from Urenco, a British-German-Dutch company, for Pakistan in the 1970s. Khan later covertly transferred centrifuge designs and components to several countries, including Iran. Iran used these transfers to design and manufacture its own centrifuges.
What's a uranium centrifuge?
Iran has announced its activation of a second set of uranium centrifuges. These machines are at the core of the uranium-enrichment process. Find out where the centrifuge fits into the equation.
science.howstuffworks.com
Iran began its centrifuge effort in the late 1980s with know-how obtained from the notorious proliferation network led by the late Pakistani metallurgist A.Q. Khan. Khan stole centrifuge designs from Urenco, a British-German-Dutch company, for Pakistan in the 1970s. Khan later covertly transferred centrifuge designs and components to several countries, including Iran. Iran used these transfers to design and manufacture its own centrifuges.
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I look at the data that has been pushed for over a decade. Its all bullshit.
Iran's Nuclear Weapons: 20-Year Predictions | Shared Grok Conversation
Provide me a list of articles for the last 20 years stating that Iran will soon have nuclear weapons
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US Designates New Iran Centrifuge Material Supply Networks | King's College London
Several Chinese aluminium manufacturers have been designated by the US for allegedly supplying dual-use materials to Iran. If the allegations are true, this would represent a serious violation of the JCPOA.
www.kcl.ac.uk
It's always the ChiComms
Ok, if Fordow wasn't a nuclear facility, what was its purpose?
A Mushroom Farm?
A Mushroom Farm?
GOYABEAN
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prambo
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Thank you.
prambo
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[Just sort of free-forming this. It's on my mind.]
Speaking of shit we, as a country, should have avoided...
Just finishing Blackhawk Down again. I left Kenya for the last time as it was happening.
The command staff who didn't have "boots on the ground", especially Garrison and Harrell, should have been fucking court-martialed for that shitshow. Should have resigned their commissions instead of following Clinton's fucked up policies.
One of the first things you learned when you were finally "in country" was to never fuck with Somalis. Going to NE Kenya wasn't particularly safe in my whole 10 years (1983-1993) there. But if you were in the Mountain Club of Kenya and/or a serious bush basher (I was both) you got near to, or past, Garissa, or to the east of the main, north/south Isiolo-Marsabit road in the NFD (Northern Frontier District) you would come in contact with Somalis, or other nomadic herdsmen. NE Kenya was original a part of Somaliland, and the colonialist Brits, French, Italians and Germans just carved shit up, ignoring all actual tribal borders. This caused no end of tribal conflicts and hatred.
I loved that area - high altitude desert.
When I arrived you couldn't go North of Isiolo without joining an army convoy. Never got there by my lonesome until Aug/Sep 1984. Evidence of lots of poaching...almost all poachers were Somalis. Look up "The Shifta Wars" - Somali bandits are still called "Shifta", which can be translated from Swahili as bandit or outlaw, or one who defies authority.
All you have to see is one elephant or rhino butchered for ivory or horn, probably while still alive, although shot numerous times with an AK, and you know the barbarity of Somalis.
Another "war" we never should have gotten involved in. And, yes, Somalia is still a fucked up mess.
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Speaking of shit we, as a country, should have avoided...
Just finishing Blackhawk Down again. I left Kenya for the last time as it was happening.
The command staff who didn't have "boots on the ground", especially Garrison and Harrell, should have been fucking court-martialed for that shitshow. Should have resigned their commissions instead of following Clinton's fucked up policies.
One of the first things you learned when you were finally "in country" was to never fuck with Somalis. Going to NE Kenya wasn't particularly safe in my whole 10 years (1983-1993) there. But if you were in the Mountain Club of Kenya and/or a serious bush basher (I was both) you got near to, or past, Garissa, or to the east of the main, north/south Isiolo-Marsabit road in the NFD (Northern Frontier District) you would come in contact with Somalis, or other nomadic herdsmen. NE Kenya was original a part of Somaliland, and the colonialist Brits, French, Italians and Germans just carved shit up, ignoring all actual tribal borders. This caused no end of tribal conflicts and hatred.
I loved that area - high altitude desert.
When I arrived you couldn't go North of Isiolo without joining an army convoy. Never got there by my lonesome until Aug/Sep 1984. Evidence of lots of poaching...almost all poachers were Somalis. Look up "The Shifta Wars" - Somali bandits are still called "Shifta", which can be translated from Swahili as bandit or outlaw, or one who defies authority.
All you have to see is one elephant or rhino butchered for ivory or horn, probably while still alive, although shot numerous times with an AK, and you know the barbarity of Somalis.
Another "war" we never should have gotten involved in. And, yes, Somalia is still a fucked up mess.
Rant Mode - OFF
I have a hard time naming one conflict we should have been involved with.
All good points. The Israelis took real risks to start the bombing campaign. Presumably they would not have done it if they weren't convinced the Iranians were much closer to making good on their threats.
Is it possible we were lied to by the Israelis/CIA regarding the intelligence? Hell yes. Given the past 25 years that's the safest bet
But Case is right pointing out why exactly the Iranians needed a deep underground facility for "civilian" use. No one is buying that line.
No good answers. We had better prepare for the blowback from this. The enemy gets a vote and if the mullahs are convinced regime change is on the way what do they have to lose? They'll unleash everything they have against any target available.
GOYABEAN
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Report: Last Night’s Attack on Iran Was Planned under the Biden Administration | Headline USA
(Headline USA) The Pentagon’s surprise attack on three of Iranian nuclear sites Saturday nights had apparently been in the works for about a year, with the U.S. and Israel having practiced the operation during the Biden administration. “It was the first exercise that war-gamed an offensive...
headlineusa.com
holdover
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No we dont. Iran claims to have moved it. makes sense, but how do we know? US claims to have destroyed it. Sounds legit but how do we know?
This is the story of the little boy who cried wolf. No one believes anyone, anymore. Burn it the fuck down.
livingston
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Border Czar Tom Homan Weighs In on Potential Sleeper Cells from Iran Operating in the US (VIDEO) * The Gateway Pundit * by David Greyson
Border Czar Tom Homan was on "Sunday Morning Futures" with host Maria Bartiromo to discuss the threat of Iranian sleeper cells inside the United States.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Border Czar Tom Homan Weighs In on Potential Sleeper Cells from Iran Operating in the US (VIDEO)
Border Czar Tom Homan was on “Sunday Morning Futures” with host Maria Bartiromo to discuss the threat of Iranian sleeper cells inside the United States.“I said the last four years my biggest concern was this open border, was the biggest national security vulnerability this country has ever seen,” Homan said.
“I pulled numbers this morning just from CBP under Joe Biden. There was 1,272 nationals Iran released in the country,” Homan said.
“Under Joe Biden, we had over 10 million people cross that border,” Homan said.
“More than two million known gotaways, over two million people crossed that border. We don’t know who they are, where they came from because they got away cause Border Patrol is so overwhelmed with the humanitarian crisis that Biden created,” Homan explained.
spat
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WWII.
That was the last actual declared war.
Everything since then has been just general fucking around.
A fully mobilized US prosecuting a total war like we did in WWII would be severe enough to change the course of human evolution.
spat
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Before and after pics of Fordow
nypost.com
First satellite images of Fordow after US bunker buster bomb strike show extensive damage
The first public satellite images of Iran’s Fordow nuclear site offer a glimpse of the damage that US bunker buster bombs did to the facility following President Trump’s surprise attack…
nypost.com
stokes
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I'm not overly impressed with what I see. Just see holes where the bomb entered the ground. I would think if a large explosion occurred in one of the holes there we would see some evidence of such a blast, like the ground collapsed and the holes made much larger.Meh.Before and after pics of Fordow
First satellite images of Fordow after US bunker buster bomb strike show extensive damage
The first public satellite images of Iran’s Fordow nuclear site offer a glimpse of the damage that US bunker buster bombs did to the facility following President Trump’s surprise attack…
spat
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Look at the surface. The whole thing has settled.
The ground is probably 20 feet lower in the whole area now because all the underground areas collapsed.
The bombs did exactly what they were supposed to do.
stokes
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Hard to tell, it appears in the after photos they zoomed in so cant really get the perspective.
GOYABEAN
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Iran just announced they closed the strait of Hormuz