livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
STOP SURRENDERING Your 4th Amendment DAILY! Loophole exposes YOU, Single Purpose Container Doctrine
Single Purpose Container Doctrine SURRENDERING Your 4th Amendment
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STOP SURRENDERING Your 4th Amendment DAILY! Loophole exposes YOU, Single Purpose Container Doctrine
C3D
.338 Win Mag
This was an issue in a New Jersey case some years ago where a conviction was upheld based on a warrantless search of a gun case.
That's why I carry my guns in things don't look like gun cases.
That's why I carry my guns in things don't look like gun cases.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
How many folks don't realize this ...
Well I didn't, that said IF it looks like a Gun in a sock/Holster/case then chance are it is, but that's also profiling isn't it?
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
My 10" AR will fit in a Ridgid hardcase toolbox if I break it down.
Baseball bat bags work well too
jafo50
22lr
I think it's easier said than done to find a hard-shelled lockable case that doesn't, in any way shape or form, resemble a firearm case.
Examples are welcome.
Examples are welcome.
Perfect example. This is a vault, not a gun case. Anything could be in it, therefore protected by the 4th.
vaulteksafe.com
Vaultek LifePod XR Portable Travel Case | High Capacity
Vaultek LifePod XR high-capacity portable safe with pluck foam interior. Weather-resistant, TSA compliant, and built for secure travel.
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jafo50
22lr
Great example, thanksPerfect example. This is a vault, not a gun case. Anything could be in it, therefore protected by the 4th.
Vaultek LifePod XR Portable Travel Case | High Capacity
Vaultek LifePod XR high-capacity portable safe with pluck foam interior. Weather-resistant, TSA compliant, and built for secure travel.
spat
.950 JDJ
Wait till they find out how many pill bottles I have full of small screws and nuts....
Here's what you really want for a trip to the range....
OK, now I want to find a shooting range that offers caddy service.
"Sir, this is a par 450yd, might I suggest the .308 ?"
Here's what you really want for a trip to the range....
OK, now I want to find a shooting range that offers caddy service.
"Sir, this is a par 450yd, might I suggest the .308 ?"
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byron
.308 Win
He is leaving out an important part they still need probable cause just plain view would not justify a search guns are legal, drugs are not so plain view would apply he would still need probable cause evidence of a crime
- Consent: If you voluntarily give the police permission to search your gun case, they do not need a warrant.
- Probable Cause and Exigent Circumstances: If the police have probable cause to believe that the gun case contains evidence of a crime and there are exigent circumstances (e.g., immediate danger or risk of evidence destruction), they may be able to conduct a warrantless search. New York courts apply a stricter standard than federal law when evaluating exigent circumstances, requiring officers to demonstrate a compelling need for immediate action.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
thats why you cover the gun case/s with blankets and kid toys ..
and shut your blabbing mouth
I don't answer questions ..
DUH!!
and shut your blabbing mouth
I don't answer questions ..
DUH!!
Paperpunch
.40 S&W
I don't like fly rod tubes 'cause you can't put anything but rods. A large case however, can store a few rods, reels, extra line and small fly boxes.
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dean3690
.44 mag
Stickers are important. Some Callaway, Lionel or Nikon stickers on the case may help as well. I like the container options that you all have shown as they have realistically affordable price points. Thanks
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Be respectful, but don`t answer questions. You have to keep your mouth shut, today. Rogue boot lickers runnin wild today.
Time to start keeping my license in an opaque colostomy bag. I figure they'll be comfortable with that seeing as they are a bunch of fucking assholes.
While the video is informative, I will not be changing the way I do things, or the type of containers I carry my stuff in.
This may not be a popular opinion, I am not doing anything wrong, I have no worries.
This may not be a popular opinion, I am not doing anything wrong, I have no worries.
Simple... And put a small lock on it!
What is that?
A Golf Club Case.
What's inside?
Want to see inside? Well, that's easy, get a warrant!
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
If you need a 500.00 hard case for a safe queen, leave it at home and use it for when you move locations. lol
Softball bags, gym bags, soft guitar cases are all fine for those tools you are one day planning to use in the apocalypse. If that event happens you won't be committing the safe queen to the fight. You'll be reaching for the tool that got bumped, hit the ground and used in rough weather that you were training in and now trust. Don't dare tell me otherwise.
Also, super market canvas zipper bags that say Stop n Shop, Fresh Mart or other, are great for the range gear needed for the day.
Softball bags, gym bags, soft guitar cases are all fine for those tools you are one day planning to use in the apocalypse. If that event happens you won't be committing the safe queen to the fight. You'll be reaching for the tool that got bumped, hit the ground and used in rough weather that you were training in and now trust. Don't dare tell me otherwise.
Also, super market canvas zipper bags that say Stop n Shop, Fresh Mart or other, are great for the range gear needed for the day.
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
So, i`m guessing you just let out the secret where you store your Automatic Transmission Fluid?
Not for nothing but there have Always been Rogue boot lickers and power trip junkies out there.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
There is no doubt about that, always will be. There is just a lot more of them out there, today, that run around all puffed up just waiting to pounce. We`ve got a couple new young newb`s locally. When they are sitting along side of the road watching people drive through the village, they stare you down like your a criminal. They are stone faced, eyes don`t blink, no sign of happiness on their faces. They just stare you down with anger all over their faces. They won`t even reply back to you when you say good morning or hello. That`s a first sign of one being a phucking prick. I bet when they`re sitting in their dicktatermobile, their finger is on the trigger while they stare at you. I do not trust any of them today. They don`t show signs anymore that they CAN be trusted.
All the more reason to tip your hat and acknowledge there presence. Throw in a “ Good morning officer friendly “ for good measure now and then .
Maybe, just Probably, a good way to make some bank $$$...
Just give em' the Bird when passing by, get the cams rolling and wait for it! When stopped or worse, you'll make bank! Just be nice when interacting! Heaven forbid the officer ever asks you WHY you gave the bird, lol.
Always! Don't read into the above! Lol... But those stone faced soulless public servants sometimes need a reality check
Anyways, it's all good!
We are always discussing hypothetical scenarios that never come to be!
Have a great day!
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
1) Wife and I have a friend who is a hot glass artist, glass blower. She goes to shows with up to 8 hard long rifle gun cases. Awesome product protection.
2) At work (before retirement) the HVAC service technicians use to move pitot tubes for duct velocity measurements, in their service vans in a hard gun case.
3) I have a friend who used an XXL range bag from MidwayUSA for a diaper bag. Better pockets and stronger than most diaper bags. She was a shooter. Her friends laughed at her. Range-diaper bag still in service 20 years later.
4) I repourpose my manufacturer's pistol cases to organize tools in my tool boxes.
5) Pencil holder on my desk is a plasic reloading box for .308 ammo.
All of the above are examples of open minded dual purpose uses of what is perceived to be single use containers.
2) At work (before retirement) the HVAC service technicians use to move pitot tubes for duct velocity measurements, in their service vans in a hard gun case.
3) I have a friend who used an XXL range bag from MidwayUSA for a diaper bag. Better pockets and stronger than most diaper bags. She was a shooter. Her friends laughed at her. Range-diaper bag still in service 20 years later.
4) I repourpose my manufacturer's pistol cases to organize tools in my tool boxes.
5) Pencil holder on my desk is a plasic reloading box for .308 ammo.
All of the above are examples of open minded dual purpose uses of what is perceived to be single use containers.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Shadow rider
6.5 Creedmoor
