Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
"Hawaii and Alaska shouldn’t count."
Good point, I was thinking the same thing due to the reasons explained in the link.
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NYS public commission approve electrical rate increase, but Hochul is mad
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Good point, I was thinking the same thing due to the reasons explained in the link.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
Hochul's a big supporter of "the Green New Scam," and here we are.
A few miles from me, a farm field has been converted into a solar field. I live in the snowbelt, and we get a lot of snow here. And of course, being WNY, the skies here are, for the most part, overcast and gloomy. (This summer being the rare exception.)
And for the last 3 years, the Canadian wildfire smoke just hangs over the region, creating a thick haze in the atmosphere.
I'm certain the Green New Deal is a scam and a very shady deal.
And we're all paying for it.
Between the inflation partly created by the COVID-19 scam and the Green New Deal scam increasing the cost of energy. We're all getting scammed by the Democrat politicians. And unfortunately for us NYers. Albany is full of crooked Democrat politicians.
It's not/wasn't the Republicans that supported the covid lockdowns and trashing at the time, a thriving economy. The Republicans also don't support the Green New Deal either.
In fact, President Trump publicly refers to the Green New Deal as the Green New Scam.
I just thought I'd mention it.
A few miles from me, a farm field has been converted into a solar field. I live in the snowbelt, and we get a lot of snow here. And of course, being WNY, the skies here are, for the most part, overcast and gloomy. (This summer being the rare exception.)
And for the last 3 years, the Canadian wildfire smoke just hangs over the region, creating a thick haze in the atmosphere.
I'm certain the Green New Deal is a scam and a very shady deal.
And we're all paying for it.
Between the inflation partly created by the COVID-19 scam and the Green New Deal scam increasing the cost of energy. We're all getting scammed by the Democrat politicians. And unfortunately for us NYers. Albany is full of crooked Democrat politicians.
It's not/wasn't the Republicans that supported the covid lockdowns and trashing at the time, a thriving economy. The Republicans also don't support the Green New Deal either.
In fact, President Trump publicly refers to the Green New Deal as the Green New Scam.
I just thought I'd mention it.
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pjzwtl
.308 Win
The shift to solar and other green shit is why the rates keep going up. How many coal plants have been shut down in this state?
That_FNG
.308 Win
Do you mean fuck New York? Not sure what a “phuck” is.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
FWIW - AI Overview.
New York State has closed all of its coal-fired power plants. The last one, the Somerset Generating Station, shut down in March 2020, according to The New York Times. This closure marked the end of coal-fired electricity generation in the state, aligning with New York's goal to transition to a carbon-free energy grid by 2040. Other coal plants, like the Cayuga plant and the RED Rochester facility, had either retired or switched to natural gas before 2020.
Additionally, doing a very quick search, I read that two nuclear reactors at the Indian Point Energy Center (Units 2 and 3) were permanently closed, with Unit 2 shutting down in April 2020 and Unit 3 in April 2021.
There was a Sawmill here that made Furniture Grade Lumber; their electric Bill was so high they Bought a big Caterpillar Generator Set, powered the entire Mill, and as an added bonus there's a guy locally that makes Bio-Diesel.
Why isn't phonics spelled the way it sounds?
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I mean everything is more expensive there because it’s so hard to get things there. It’s outrageous to live in those two states. Hawaii has low property taxes and that’s about it.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
So we complain about global warming so we are putting in solar panels. Let me ask you this if I measure the temperature above the farm field will it be cooler or warmer than the solar panels? It makes me sick how many new solar farms/fields are going up. Freaking useless. I don’t get why they are putting them in at all different angles now and they aren’t even facing south. It all seems odd to me.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
It's climate change now. C'mon, man, keep up.
Nah, I'm just kidding.
Which brings me to. In the 1970s and into the early 1980s, it was the New Ice Age.
That somehow turned into Global Warming, which somehow turned into Climate Change, encompassing everything.
I recently heard a few of the libtards now calling it Global Boiling.
How Lee Cow, I am a loss for words right now. I mean, where do you go with that? lol
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
I have wondered this as well. Solar is not exactly new tech. There are ideal azimuth and inclinations based on location and average yearly performance (true south and your latitude generally)
They put in a new field last winter near me. Compared to the field across the road its a completely different direction and inclination...by a lot.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Yea Indian Point supplied something like 25% of Westchester and NYC’s electricity. A huge self inflicted wound another brilliant Cuomo move.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
Solar doesn't work on a industrial scale. Its far to expensive to install and maintain. Plus, they take up hundreds of acers to produce very little, and of course, they don't work at night, or during storms or covered in snow, AND they are easily damaged by hail ( in some locations )
However, on a smaller scale, like individual homes ( and RV's ) they work just fine. One draw back, which I never understood. Municipalities DO NOT want you to have a battery backup system? Besides, a battery bank will cost as much or more than the solar panels. There are many lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePo) batteries out there that do produce 300+ Amp-hours. Tie 20 or 30 in a battery bank and you have some serious battery power that can run everything in your home for a lot of hours. And LiFeFo can run down to completely DIScharged (zero volts ) and still be fully recharged. The drawback, you have to keep them warm. LifePo batteries will not charge up below 32ish º.
Lead acid on the other hand works great as well, but are just as expensive as LiFePo, and if one battery goes bad, you have to replace all of them....
we have been on solar for four years now, you definitely have to make some life style concessions. All your lights will have to be LED. and your kids will have to learn to turn shit off.
You can put solar on your roof, or it can be installed on a large post in the yard. If they are on a post, you get them to track the sun, but that uses solar energy to move the panels.
From my experience, small scale solar works, large scale not so much, unless you're near or around Yuma, Az. where they have sun 340 days a year. Yuma is the sunniest place in America. AFAIK
However, on a smaller scale, like individual homes ( and RV's ) they work just fine. One draw back, which I never understood. Municipalities DO NOT want you to have a battery backup system? Besides, a battery bank will cost as much or more than the solar panels. There are many lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePo) batteries out there that do produce 300+ Amp-hours. Tie 20 or 30 in a battery bank and you have some serious battery power that can run everything in your home for a lot of hours. And LiFeFo can run down to completely DIScharged (zero volts ) and still be fully recharged. The drawback, you have to keep them warm. LifePo batteries will not charge up below 32ish º.
Lead acid on the other hand works great as well, but are just as expensive as LiFePo, and if one battery goes bad, you have to replace all of them....
we have been on solar for four years now, you definitely have to make some life style concessions. All your lights will have to be LED. and your kids will have to learn to turn shit off.
You can put solar on your roof, or it can be installed on a large post in the yard. If they are on a post, you get them to track the sun, but that uses solar energy to move the panels.
From my experience, small scale solar works, large scale not so much, unless you're near or around Yuma, Az. where they have sun 340 days a year. Yuma is the sunniest place in America. AFAIK
The PSC says the adopted joint proposal delivers $110 million in annual efficiency savings ..... supports energy affordability programs and protections for vulnerable customers.Funny how Hochul and company pass laws that make our rates go up to find the electrical revolution to save the world but when the rates go up she’s mad because we can’t afford it. What a joke this all is. Are people really this dumb?
National Grid bills are going up next month; Here's how much you can expect to pay
National Grid customers in New York State will soon start paying more for electricity after the Public Service Commission unanimously approved the proposed 20 percent rate hike.www.wkbw.com
Translation: You pay more so worthless societal leeches get "free" electricity.
Fucking rats, like always. Free shit army strikes again
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I see the different angles thing in the same field. I’ve seen entire fields of them face east to west with no south facing panels at all. I just don’t get it.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I will say climate change is occurring. This summer was warmer than I ever remember and dry. Spring was super wet and it’s been wonder than I remember for years. Also less snow.
Now that doesn’t mean because I drive my pick up truck that’s the cause. Climate has been changing since God created the earth.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
And
And it was cheap.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I won’t see any savings. Efficiency usually means making it cheaper so why is my bill going up. It’s all lies as you stated.
If I have to pay to for lazy fucks to have "free" electricity, I say we spend that money on building a guillotine instead.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Just shutoff their electric for a month and if they get a job and pay their bill then they can keep working and keep paying. If they live without electricity for a month they are likely not able to work and I don’t mind helping. I’ll bet over half get a job and start paying their bills.
There are 4 people in my house working 7 jobs and two full time students. It can be done they just need an incentive. I’m sick of paying for losers to sit around and play video games and some are my relatives. Kick em off.
Farmers are land leasing their fields to the solar power companies for yearly leases. The 'pitch' is to 'let your unused land generate income for you'. Someone I know was ready to jump on this for an unused 'back 40' of their property but the20 year lease and encroaching requirements presented by the solar energy developer was a bit much. They decided against it in the end, even though they could use the money.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Most are 20 or 25 year leases around me. Most are getting $2,000 per acre to do this. I know a guy who signed and removed his fruit trees. He had to rent a huge bull dozer and pay the fuel to remove them, he called said solar place and said it’s done. Three years later they put them in and started paying him. He lost revenue from the trees, paid taxes on the land and fronted the money for tree removal just to wait three years for any movement.
JRtraderny
.308 Win
Sawmill down the road from me shut down 2 months ago when they got a $28K electric bill said screw it .