The court sided with the church on 2nd

[byron]

Federal court orders NYS to pay $800K+ to legal team representing 'His Tabernacle Family Church'

The law in question, which has been effectively struck down, was signed by Governor Hochul in response to the 2022 Tops Supermarket shooting in Buffalo.

www.weny.com

another win

 

[Saltwater60]

I appreciate this. I carry a gun every time I attend my church service and events there.

 

[GTN]

Great another win for us but unfortunately we have to pay not hochul. What does she care if she lost

 

[JunkBoxFull]

It`s far from over until the check is cashed.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Great another win for us but unfortunately we have to pay not hochul. What does she care if she lost

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!! We`re on the hook for it.

 

[Cavalry]

Completely unrelated to the topic, but that church is huge. Is the congregation big enough to justify a building of that size?

 

[Grimscale]

Completely unrelated to the topic, but that church is huge. Is the congregation big enough to justify a building of that size?

Why do they need to justify the size of their building?

If they can afford it, let them build what they want.

 

[jimc]

NY, as usual, needs to update their FAQ's. From:

Frequently Asked Questions: New Concealed Carry Law

gunsafety.ny.gov

What are the places, under the new law, where I cannot bring a firearm, rifle, or shotgun?

• Places of worship except for those persons responsible for security at such place of worship;

 

[Defilade]

The U.S. District Court of Western New York ordered the payment in relation to the church's lawsuit over state laws that prohibit firearms in places of worship.

Oh I'm sorry. Where does the Government have a monopoly on what a person can carry or not? Who they fuck are they? It's not their establishment. They are treading on something they don't own or have a say in period!

 

[Cavalry]

Why do they need to justify the size of their building?

If they can afford it, let them build what they want.

You are taking it the wrong way. They of course do not need to justify anything, like you said its their building they can do what they want. I was just curious if the congregation is actually big enough that they need a building that big. Non denominational christian churches in my area are typically a couple thousand square foot at best with members in the dozens (maybe). I have never seen anything that big except in the south.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Completely unrelated to the topic, but that church is huge. Is the congregation big enough to justify a building of that size?

I`ve been inside of this place. There are many rooms built within the whole building. And no, there aren`t that many members of this church.

 

[Saltwater60]

Great another win for us but unfortunately we have to pay not hochul. What does she care if she lost

This is what needs to change. If these morons pass a law they know if unconstitutional and very blatantly so they should be held personally liable for the cost of all lawsuits associated with it. They should pay back the church and the tax payers for both lawsuits.

 

[Saltwater60]

Completely unrelated to the topic, but that church is huge. Is the congregation big enough to justify a building of that size?

And an $800,000 legal bill. I know my church is fairly large but could not support this financially.

 

[Acer-m14]

what!!!! no $$$$$$$ for damages ... 800,000 peanuts to NYS .. dumb ass court ..

 

[JunkBoxFull]

This is what needs to change. If these morons pass a law they know if unconstitutional and very blatantly so they should be held personally liable for the cost of all lawsuits associated with it. They should pay back the church and the tax payers for both lawsuits.

Personally, i think these fukkers should be paying it back out of their own pockets and NOT from OUR tax revenue.

 

[Saltwater60]

Personally, i think these fukkers should be paying it back out of their own pockets and NOT from OUR tax revenue.

That’s what I said. They should pay back both the church and tax payers.

 

[FP1201]

Oh I'm sorry. Where does the Government have a monopoly on what a person can carry or not? Who they fuck are they? It's not their establishment. They are treading on something they don't own or have a say in period!

It's the Democrats way: Vote on and pass anything their fellow democrats propose irrespective the legitimacy, constitutionality, or viability makes no difference, just get it passed and signed into Law, then IF it goes to Court maybe we win, maybe we lose, either way we get the some usage or validation of the Law and if we lose, we;ll just change or make it worse to circumvent the Judges (which won't be any problem if it's one of our appointments)....literally throwing Shit on the Wall to see what sticks.

 

[Doc8404]

so confused right now.

Can you LEGALLY carry in a place of worship in NY?

SCOPE Oneida and Herkimer county are posting on facebook that you can't.

NY AG page says you can't.

Oneida county DA says you can't and is coming to the next meeting.

 

[byron]

so confused right now.

Can you LEGALLY carry in a place of worship in NY?

SCOPE Oneida and Herkimer county are posting on facebook that you can't.

NY AG page says you can't.

Oneida county DA says you can't and is coming to the next meeting.

“(The law) is not neutral because it allows the owners of many forms of private property, including many types of retail businesses open to the public, to decide for themselves whether to allow firearms on the premises while denying the same autonomy to places of worship,” the Dec. 8 ruling said.

The court added that church leaders have a right to decide for themselves whether guns are allowed.

“It’s hard to see how the law advances the interests of religious organizations, as a whole, by denying them agency to choose for themselves whether to permit firearms,” the ruling said.

In a statement, Jeremy Dys, senior counsel for First Liberty Institute, the firm representing a New York church that’s challenging the law, praised the court’s decision.

Why can’t New York keep guns out of churches?

Several lawsuits related to New York’s efforts to further regulate concealed carry are working their way through the legal system.

www.deseret.com

https://www.stargazette.com/story/news/local/2025/09/05/ny-must-reimburse-lawyers-for-horseheads-church-in-gun-control-lawsuit/85988881007/

, the decision upholds the ban on concealed carry in all sensitive places with the exception of places of worship. this from Jumbo james own site

Attorney General James Successfully Defends Gun Safety Regulations

NEW YORK — New York Attorney General Letitia James today released the following statement after the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit upheld

ag.ny.gov

Looks to me they are wrong and Jumbo says so also