Kirk assassin’s alleged gun was powerful, vintage and hard to trace

[jimc]

"And they are so well made that, with a decent scope, a person with basic firearm proficiency can strike a target from 150 to 200 yards away, roughly the distance of the shot fired by the Kirk assassin."

What happened to the shooter had to be a trained sniper/assassin that the media was touting early on? I mean, you would have to have those skills at that distance, right?

 

[FP1201]

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The whole premise of this thread smells off to me. The photos of the touted found weapon looks like a current Mauser M18 model to me. It comes chambered in the reported caliber (30-06) among others.

Some dumb ass hired retired talking heads on Fox started talking about it being an old WW2 rifle relic but I think they are full of shit.

WW2 vintage Mausers were variants of the Model 98, were chambered in 7.92×57mm (8mm), and were dressed in wood stocks.

Even if restocked in what looks to be nylon, I can't believe vintage WW2 Mausers were rechambered to 30.06.

Someone is making shit up somewhere since the photos of the gun, the reported caliber, and the reported vintage of the gun don't all logically line up.

"Quick, get us a picture of a Rifle that we can run the story with...nah, it doesn't matter if it's the one used, it's a token for effect." How often have we seen this?

"Mauser" is actually a Manufacturer's Brand Name: they made Millions of Rifles, sold to hundreds of Countries, under several dozen different models and calibers...the name is synonymous with the Bolt Action design carrying the name.

South and Central American Countries ordered or converted many Rifles to 30'06 due to allegiances with the United States and it's use and subsequent supply of .30 US ammunition, later on many of these same and other Countries converted Rifles to 7.62 NATO to comply with membership requirements. (I have a Chilean Mauser that was originally 7mm Mauser that was converted by them into 7.62 shoots great and is brutally accurate for a Military Rifle)

When that photo first appeared and with the assertions of engraved cartridges and spent case, the wonky scope, the closed action, not in an "evidence" container, no towel, etc. that it was bullshit.

ATF relies on Manufacturers and Importers to start the trace engine provided they're still in Business and if not, then it falls to the Digitized Records ATF holds, even then there might not be anything, and as for C&R FFL's, if they do not renew their Licenses, they are told NOT to send their Bound Book to Discontinued Records, but to destroy it.

There's a shit-ton of guns that qualified as "Curio and Relic" before the 50 year rule came into effect, therefor that number increases every year....That's right, that Colt AR-15 SP-1 made in 1975....yea, that's a C&R, and the Government can suck it!

 

[FP1201]

"And they are so well made that, with a decent scope, a person with basic firearm proficiency can strike a target from 150 to 200 yards away, roughly the distance of the shot fired by the Kirk assassin."

What happened to the shooter had to be a trained sniper/assassin that the media was touting early on? I mean, you would have to have those skills at that distance, right?

Unlike that Carcano Rifle used to shoot JFK in a moving vehicle.

 

[dwa12479]

I hope this goes viral in the MSM! Every fudd in the country has a bolt gun in the cabinet for hunting, or as a hand down from their great grandaddy.....maybe we'll finally get them on board with the rest of us? It'll be interesting when Uncle Elmer finds out there's gun control coming for his deer rifle.

Been saying this about FUDDs for years....

First they came for the black rifles, but I didnt speak up because I dont own a black rifle.

Then they came for the Glocks, but I didnt speak up because I dont own a Glock.

Then they came for the deer rifles.... FUCK. Whoops

 

[RedBreast21]

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The whole premise of this thread smells off to me. The photos of the touted found weapon looks like a current Mauser M18 model to me. It comes chambered in the reported caliber (30-06) among others.

Some dumb ass hired retired talking heads on Fox started talking about it being an old WW2 rifle relic but I think they are full of shit.

WW2 vintage Mausers were variants of the Model 98, were chambered in 7.92×57mm (8mm), and were dressed in wood stocks.

Even if restocked in what looks to be nylon, I can't believe vintage WW2 Mausers were rechambered to 30.06.

Someone is making shit up somewhere since the photos of the gun, the reported caliber, and the reported vintage of the gun don't all logically line up.

Mauser action. Plenty have been chamber for different cartridges.

 

[FP1201]

Mauser action. Plenty have been chamber for different cartridges.

Everything from surplus Military to Factory new commercial, they've been chambered in damn near anything imaginable since the invention of smokeless Powder.

 

[holdover]

I love the fact the shooter broke down the rifle, wrapped it in a towel, but never wiped the rifle for prints or wear gloves!

 

[Acer-m14]

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The whole premise of this thread smells off to me. The photos of the touted found weapon looks like a current Mauser M18 model to me. It comes chambered in the reported caliber (30-06) among others.

Some dumb ass hired retired talking heads on Fox started talking about it being an old WW2 rifle relic but I think they are full of shit.

WW2 vintage Mausers were variants of the Model 98, were chambered in 7.92×57mm (8mm), and were dressed in wood stocks.

Even if restocked in what looks to be nylon, I can't believe vintage WW2 Mausers were rechambered to 30.06.

Someone is making shit up somewhere since the photos of the gun, the reported caliber, and the reported vintage of the gun don't all logically line up.

where is the towel ?

 

[Acer-m14]

according to all the social media firearm quarter backs that can see a bullet in mid flight from a normal security cam ..

now its being reported that there was no exit wound .. so was it a 30-06 or not ..

didn't you the rim on Charlies vest it was a ricochet ...

omg this shit is ridiculous

 

[Acer-m14]

ohhh i forgot to mention a 30-06 is not high power ..

A .270Win with a 130gn Is ..

 

[Grimscale]

according to all the social media firearm quarter backs that can see a bullet in mid flight from a normal security cam ..

now its being reported that there was no exit wound .. so was it a 30-06 or not ..

didn't you the rim on Charlies vest it was a ricochet ...

omg this shit is ridiculous

don't forget that the videos trying to disprove the "engravings" by stating they were maker's marks always seem to show a headstamp from a 9x19 round.
so we can add it being a pistol caliber to the confusion?

 

[spat]

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The whole premise of this thread smells off to me. The photos of the touted found weapon looks like a current Mauser M18 model to me. It comes chambered in the reported caliber (30-06) among others.

Some dumb ass hired retired talking heads on Fox started talking about it being an old WW2 rifle relic but I think they are full of shit.

WW2 vintage Mausers were variants of the Model 98, were chambered in 7.92×57mm (8mm), and were dressed in wood stocks.

Even if restocked in what looks to be nylon, I can't believe vintage WW2 Mausers were rechambered to 30.06.

Someone is making shit up somewhere since the photos of the gun, the reported caliber, and the reported vintage of the gun don't all logically line up.

There are the DMs from Taylor that seem to imply it was a hand me down rifle from his grandfather to his father to him.

Could easily be a 100 year old rifle that someone put a new stock on for one reason or another.

Rechambering in 30-06 was *very* popular for quite a while due to ammo availability.

 

[FRANKIE]

If it were a restocked old action,
A Russian capture with that scary X carved on the receiver (not to mention the Swastika stamps) would definitely fit their narrative.
Or being a Russian capture, maybe from Putin’s inventory? Lol.