NYC council proposes $30/hour minimum wage
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What can go wrong?
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
After they pass it, everyone will be complaining that there's no jobs and it's $59 for a Big Mac meal
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Is the various NYC leadership really this stupid?
Or is it some sort of grand experiment, consequences be damned?
Democrats in positions of power keep going on and on about affordability, but at the same time, they're doing everything they can to make things more expensive. Doh!
Or is it some sort of grand experiment, consequences be damned?
Democrats in positions of power keep going on and on about affordability, but at the same time, they're doing everything they can to make things more expensive. Doh!
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Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
More dumbfuckery socialism. Next they'll change the name to East California.
Robin
Robin
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
What they fail to understand is NYC is filled with tourists. Raising the minimum wage that much will cause everything to increase. This will lead to less tourism.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
Why stop there? I think it should be far more, lets shoot for the stars and make it $100 an hour! That will certainly fix all the problems. These people deserve a living wage... or some socialist propaganda bullshit pet slogan
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Yeah, the rest of the population will pay for the increased cost of things. Businesses will not just bend over and make less profit, they will pass those increases on to the public.
How can you believe they're not?
Hardly an experiment, more like a rallying cry to make the rubes think the politicians are "looking out for the little guy" for votes don't ya know.
Democrats are duplicitous and will do every and any thinking to gain or stay in power
I worked for the Department of Defense (Army) as a Journeyman Automotive Mechanic, one of the highest paid positions on Post for Civilians not in management or GS: My wage grade and step never got close to $30. although it has gone up to about that now....That's not mowing grass or picking up trash, it's skilled technical Work.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
They only want to increase wages because it will increase payroll taxes. I bet >95% of the working class doesn't even know their employer contributes in addition to the regular withholdings, basically mirroring what the employee pays.
That's their dream.
In reality the only thing that goes up is the unemployment claims and the cost of whatever product the companies sell.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Why stop there? Why not make it $100? Then everyone can afford everything they want, and we wont need free busses or to tax the wealthy into oblivion. Why didnt anyone think of this before?
I watched a video not too far back, many a month ago. Interviewer was going around the city asking small business owners what they thought of this.
All of them, I do mean ALL of them said that if something like this goes through, they will be closing their stores.
Not a single one said that they would stay.
All of them, I do mean ALL of them said that if something like this goes through, they will be closing their stores.
Not a single one said that they would stay.
repete
.338 Win Mag
Back in the day, I remember tipping dancers with one-dollar bills, this shit keeps up the young guys will need stacks of hundred-dollar bills!
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I just throw quarters at the dancers. Maybe I'll have to up it to half dollars? Probably fitting that JFK is on that coin.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
You should keep the 1964 Kennedys seeing the price of silver. Even the 65 to 71s would be pretty generous.
spat
.950 JDJ
Marxists desperately want to claim capitalism has failed so you must accept their solution.
They have been trying to kill it for decades.
This is just the end game.
technicalgadget
.223 Rem
I wouldn't worry too much about this. Communists keep spewing out pixie dust fantasies and their lefty followers believe them with all their hearts, hook, line and sinker. It's to keep the commies in power.
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Don't fight it. It can't happen fast enough for me. The sooner NYC crashes and burns, the sooner it and NY state can recover from the lunatic mental illnesses in Albany. 
dean3690
.44 mag
Tompkins County is doing a survey and proposing a $24.50 minimum wage. Probably illegal, but that seldom stops law makers.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Wait you think it will recover if it crashes and burns? I doubt it.Don't fight it. It can't happen fast enough for me. The sooner NYC crashes and burns, the sooner it and NY state can recover from the lunatic mental illnesses in Albany.
Brawny71
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….and more businesses who already don’t have margin who close and move.
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Approximately 37% to 38% of New York City's population is foreign-born, totaling over 3 million immigrants. This demographic represents one of the highest concentrations of immigrants among major U.S. cities, with nearly half of all New Yorkers speaking a language other than English at home... NYC is a shithole and getting worse... NYC controls Albany, there will be no recovery.
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Saltwater60
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Correct but if NYC crashes it won’t change that this state will still be a democrat stronghold. All that will happen is we will be punished and our taxes raised to bail them out. NYC crashing won’t change how people vote there or anywhere else in NYS.
Brawny71
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If it fails hard enough and threatens world finance it could become a Federal District.
Its by design. Useful idiots wielded as bayonets fixed to the muskets of progressivism.
That being said how do we feel about advocacy for higher pay? Not as a government mandate but as a willing investment in tge human capital thank makes business run. It occurs to me that some of our most vital labores are woefully underpaid for the service they provide. EMTs for example; these are the people that we depend on in the worst moments of our lives, literally life and death yet EMTs are paid a poverty pittance. I myself have been advocating for significantly higher pay at my company. It's happened coincidentally. I started a new trucking job a little over a month ago after a disastrous stint hauling coal. In this short time I have done very well, helped out in several emergencies, taken new drivers under my wing, I'm taking calls and put out fires on a near daily basis and there is talk of making me a yard manager, still driving a truck but also overseeing the other drivers working out of the local yard. One thing that keeps coming up in discussions is a lack of skilled, experienced drivers which has lead to the hiring of inexperienced/ unskilled drivers. This has lead to a lack of standards and suboptimal "production".
Tge bar is set very low, in otherwords, with scrubs getting into wrecks, banned from shippers/receivers or in general doing a poor job. My broken record rejoinder has been a lack of pay. This particular fleet pays a flat daily rate of 280 a day which works out to just under 60k a year gross. In this economy that is not near enough to attract tge quality of talent tgis company needs on their highly time sensitive expedited fleet. I have advocated for a much increased rate of 500 a day or around 80k a year as a means to attracted a higher class of driver that can do they job as they require. I am not alone in this, dispatch, ops and tge recruiting team ahree with me.
Higher pay means better workers and also a much higher standard. High pay means a large pool of eager applicants which in turn means the company can demand excellence and fire anyone tgat cannot make the grade. I'd wager that profits would rises due to increased productivity and less costly incidents of all types as well as an improved reputation im the industry which will drive demand for our services which we can charge a higher rate for. Workers in this modern day are not at all compensated fairly and it is short sighted. Look at Ford, tge current nepo-baby CEO fired most of theor experienced American engineers and moved its R&D to a facility in Mexico staffed with Mexican engineers. Now this CEO imbecile is decryimg a lack of mechanics to work on their vehicles, fucking moron that he is he is unable to see tge correlation. Cheap labor means cheap goods and services that nobody wants to buy, a reduction in market share and profits. Employees are an INVESTMENT NOT AN EXPENSE. ThEre was a Golden age from the 20s through to the 50s that our captains of industry understood this.
Tge bar is set very low, in otherwords, with scrubs getting into wrecks, banned from shippers/receivers or in general doing a poor job. My broken record rejoinder has been a lack of pay. This particular fleet pays a flat daily rate of 280 a day which works out to just under 60k a year gross. In this economy that is not near enough to attract tge quality of talent tgis company needs on their highly time sensitive expedited fleet. I have advocated for a much increased rate of 500 a day or around 80k a year as a means to attracted a higher class of driver that can do they job as they require. I am not alone in this, dispatch, ops and tge recruiting team ahree with me.
Higher pay means better workers and also a much higher standard. High pay means a large pool of eager applicants which in turn means the company can demand excellence and fire anyone tgat cannot make the grade. I'd wager that profits would rises due to increased productivity and less costly incidents of all types as well as an improved reputation im the industry which will drive demand for our services which we can charge a higher rate for. Workers in this modern day are not at all compensated fairly and it is short sighted. Look at Ford, tge current nepo-baby CEO fired most of theor experienced American engineers and moved its R&D to a facility in Mexico staffed with Mexican engineers. Now this CEO imbecile is decryimg a lack of mechanics to work on their vehicles, fucking moron that he is he is unable to see tge correlation. Cheap labor means cheap goods and services that nobody wants to buy, a reduction in market share and profits. Employees are an INVESTMENT NOT AN EXPENSE. ThEre was a Golden age from the 20s through to the 50s that our captains of industry understood this.