Robin
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Robin
Robin
What if Supreme Court overturns AW & big magazine ban?
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Your ghostly collection is NOT located in NYS................
Surveillance of gun parts sellers IS part of the big pic. That is why many sellers will not ship to NYS...........
How do they catch the NYS ghost gun builders?...........cast a wide I-net, and voila............slammer time.
Beware the man who only owns one gun.
NYS is like E Germany during the cold war.............
Surveillance of gun parts sellers IS part of the big pic. That is why many sellers will not ship to NYS...........
How do they catch the NYS ghost gun builders?...........cast a wide I-net, and voila............slammer time.
Beware the man who only owns one gun.
NYS is like E Germany during the cold war.............
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That must make you feel very SAFE, what with those BLM andANTIFA hobgoblins breathing down your neck.
Robin
Robin
96coal449
.308 Win
Head is to embedded in the anal canal to feel any temperature change.
Has nothing to do with your statement the “Supreme Court banned ghost guns.” Which is innocrrect.
In NY up until a couple of years ago it was perfectly legal to make your own guns at home. While I lived in NY, I made quite a few rifles and pistols, never put serial numbers on the rifles, but did stamp the pistols so they could be put on my pistol license. I have one full caliber card with my name as the manufacturer.
There are thousands of home made guns in NY that were made before the law changed and NYS has no idea how many there are, who has them, and when they were made. Fun Fact: Factory guns made before 1968 were not required to have serial numbers. There are a boat load of factory “ghost guns.”
NY is a lost cause when it comes to the 2A, it will take a seismic shift in the political landscape to bring the state back to a sane place to live. A Supreme Court decision isn’t going to do it on its own.
With the whole idea of building without government permission or purview, why would one disclose the progress of said project?Yeah, how's your ghost gun build coming? AR? Glock?
Supreme Court upholds regulation on “ghost guns”
This article was updated on March 26 at 2:04 p.m. The Supreme Court on Wednesday upheld a Biden-era rule regulating so-called “ghost guns” – untraceable weapons without serial numbers, assembled from…www.scotusblog.com
I've got news for you, the same people that send illegal guns to NY illegally can and DO still obtain kits/80% get them to buyers who are willing to pay the asking price, and with 20 million Glocks out there and likely as many or more AR's all the Laws you can support aren't but an inconvenience.
Between all the M1 Carbines and M1 Garands made during WWII made under 13 Million, and those are still coming out of the woodwork.
Thinking that "banning" or making guns illegal is somehow going to solve the social problem of Blacks/Minorities killing each other and/or committing crimes is mental masturbation, which explains Politicians cumming all over themselves when they get another Law against "Shall Not Be Infringed "passed.
I knew someone in Command Safety (IIRC) that made a whole card full of Sigs the same way...wouldn't surprise me a bit if MSR were made too.
I know some guys that bought the Printer shaped Milling machine that would complete a lower in an afternoon.
There were multiple Dealers at Knob Creek that sold everything to make quite a few designs or Rifles and Pistols.
The State can place restrictions and punishments for my utilization of knowledge, talents, and machinery, but it's up to me for compliance.
I think I know the guy you are talking about he made a boat load of sig P320s, one from an 80%, the others from stripped 320 FCUs he got off gunbroker at 10 bucks each.
IIRC he still has that Ghost Gunner 1 with the upgraded spindles and is seriously looking at getting a GG3.
Life was a lot simpler in NY back then. All you had to do is take a piece of paper to the permit office, with MFG, SN, Caliber and 3 dollars they would add it to your license. The lady in charge of the permit office would use me as a training tool for her new employees. I used to put one new pistol a month on my license.
The last time I put a home made pistol on my license was 2023 when I went up for a visit. I tried again in 2025 and was told they had to go through a NY FFL now. Now none of my new home made guns can ever visit NY unless I want to ship them to an FFL get a green coupon and have them shipped back to my FFL in NC so I can pick it up. So dumb.
Not siding with "criminals", they do however use the gun rights we all have/had; only in an illegal fashion.
When the founders made the U.S.A. they had a mind set of freedom; they distilled, did " drugs", made guns, fought duals, hung major law (what laws they had) breakers.
They would have cleaned this corruption out asap by any and all means needed.
Now days you can't crap without a permit.
When the founders made the U.S.A. they had a mind set of freedom; they distilled, did " drugs", made guns, fought duals, hung major law (what laws they had) breakers.
They would have cleaned this corruption out asap by any and all means needed.
Now days you can't crap without a permit.
Why did they mostly ban ghost guns?
Was it because all BLM gang members are good people?
Because, ..................it was legal for ghetto thugs to make them...........as the ghosts began to show up in police investigations, every level of Gov't acted...............SCOTUS, ATF, and many states banned them, and parts, making it harder to get a haunted Glock or AR.
Harder, but not impossible, in other states.
It is about overt blatant racism............... the BLM cannot be trusted.............so sayeth the SCOTUS AND the NYS PP laws.
Was it because all BLM gang members are good people?
Because, ..................it was legal for ghetto thugs to make them...........as the ghosts began to show up in police investigations, every level of Gov't acted...............SCOTUS, ATF, and many states banned them, and parts, making it harder to get a haunted Glock or AR.
Harder, but not impossible, in other states.
It is about overt blatant racism............... the BLM cannot be trusted.............so sayeth the SCOTUS AND the NYS PP laws.
Kind of a stretch. Zerex
Most likely they were banned because some are afraid of the. Dark.
It was low hanging fruit that could be picked and wouldn't cause a big uproar. 3D printers, 80% blanks, bump stocks, the rights to makes weapons was slowly getting out, to the main stream gun world; they nipped it in the bud. You can see nothing happened from the laws, like any law; criminals by definition do not follow laws just the law abiding.
Most likely they were banned because some are afraid of the. Dark.
It was low hanging fruit that could be picked and wouldn't cause a big uproar. 3D printers, 80% blanks, bump stocks, the rights to makes weapons was slowly getting out, to the main stream gun world; they nipped it in the bud. You can see nothing happened from the laws, like any law; criminals by definition do not follow laws just the law abiding.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Gun parts stores that I was buying from had their customer lists extorted by Fatty James and I ended up on a purple tie list along with other NYer's.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Don't waste your time. His elevator stopped going to the top floor a long while ago.
NYS has held totalitarian control over Handguns for over a hundred years and any threat to that control must be stopped; someone buying an 80% Frame and completing it without the permission and notation from the State IS a threat to that control.
BLM and the Criminal Culture saw another means to acquire guns they Legally or more simply could obtain.
SCOTUS cannot and does not do anything without a significant Case (usually against the State) being brought forward. And while one would hope for a fair and equitable hearing and subsequent decision, it's patently obvious how the Court rolls, which is why NYSRPA withdrew it's SAFE Act Case when Scalia died and received as much oversight and attention as an indigent traveler.
ATF sets it's own "Rules" and with suits such as "Bump Stocks" was seemingly brought back to task and reigned in by Congress that makes the Laws....(see Chevron deference) "Many" is a subjective term, and even NY hasn't "Banned them" just required they be sent to a FFL for engraving, BGC, and amended to your Handgun Licenses (presuming you have one)
IT IS all about Racism: democrats have long held their sometimes not so secretive hatred for Blacks and Minorities, goes back long before the Civil War, and sadly so many have been dumbed down and hand fed for so long they don't know or even want anything else except to be kept on the Plantation where democrats make sure they know if they want that free shit to keep coming, they've got to vote blue....why do you think most aren't really punished for violent and significant crimes anymore than a little time (maybe) plea bargains down to petty bullshit charges that again amount to time served.
One the issue of NY Law, I have read Senate explanations written as preambles to the Law where they recognized illegal guns were being obtained illegally and being used in under-served Black Communities and this Legislation would do little to nothing to stop the problem of Black on Black violent crime (which is fine if you hate blacks/drug dealers/thugs/etc) so yes, democrats for all their duplicitous crying alligator tears really ARE Raciest.
I like to travel the States stopping at Shop and Shows whenever passed....amazing what you can buy in person with cash.
Onondaga County DA Fitzpatrick, was the spark plug to get ghosts banned in NYS under Cuomo.
it was because ghostly glocks were being confiscated on the South Side in an alarming yearly increase.
Again, the laws are not because BLM are good people, but many drug gang members who need guns, are not.
Same in Albany, Rochester, Utica Poughkeepsi, etc etc.
Throw down guns with no #, avoided NICS complications.
What was a neat hobby, is now pretty much over.
I would not own a Glock and have never handled one, due to the GO OFF NOW trigger, that kills so many legs.
it was because ghostly glocks were being confiscated on the South Side in an alarming yearly increase.
Again, the laws are not because BLM are good people, but many drug gang members who need guns, are not.
Same in Albany, Rochester, Utica Poughkeepsi, etc etc.
Throw down guns with no #, avoided NICS complications.
What was a neat hobby, is now pretty much over.
I would not own a Glock and have never handled one, due to the GO OFF NOW trigger, that kills so many legs.
Your timing is a little off, privately made guns we’re not banned in NYS while that shit for brains Andrew Cuomo was Governor, who resigned in Aug of 2021.
New York State changed the law regarding homemade guns, specifically ghost guns, on August 25, 2022, when new federal regulations mandated that ghost gun kits must include serial numbers and require background checks for buyers.
Changes to New York State Laws on Homemade Guns
New York State updated its laws regarding homemade guns, specifically ghost guns, on August 25, 2022. This change was part of new federal regulations that introduced specific requirements for ghost gun kits.Key Requirements
The updated laws mandated the following:- Serial Numbers: All ghost gun kits must now include serial numbers, making them traceable.
- Background Checks: Buyers of these kits are required to undergo background checks when purchasing from a dealer.
While I am not a fan of Glocks or any other tactical Tupperware. Glock leg is caused by operator error.
spat
.950 JDJ
Wow, you really don't understand any of this do you ?
"Ghost guns" that show up with gang bangers are regular guns with defaced serial number. They aren't out there 3d printing stuff. Defacing the serial number is a major crime, and nobody is talking about changing that.
You're falling for (or actively peddling) leftist propaganda. They count defaced serial numbers as "ghost guns" and then attempt to use those statistics to justify a ban on home made firearms.
It's just as bad as counting suicides in with "gun deaths".
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So Cuomo, and DA Fitz, and the DNC legislators DID NOT TALK ABOUT it at all, eh.
BS
It took them a year to write and pass..............typical timing.............. DA Fitz WAS the sparkplug, organizing the NYSP and other upstate DA's into pushing the legislation.
The follow on SCOTUS Vanderstock decision, was based upon the danger BLM posed, to build guns off the record, by printing them or buying 80% frames.
Simple............the court is not on a suicide mission and it knew the danger from BLM/Illegals, Cartels, etc.
It fucked most people from knocking out untraceable weapons of assasination-- throw down guns, but what the hell.
That you suffered from this, goes with the territory.
BS
It took them a year to write and pass..............typical timing.............. DA Fitz WAS the sparkplug, organizing the NYSP and other upstate DA's into pushing the legislation.
The follow on SCOTUS Vanderstock decision, was based upon the danger BLM posed, to build guns off the record, by printing them or buying 80% frames.
Simple............the court is not on a suicide mission and it knew the danger from BLM/Illegals, Cartels, etc.
It fucked most people from knocking out untraceable weapons of assasination-- throw down guns, but what the hell.
That you suffered from this, goes with the territory.
We have a short....SQUIRREL!
You are not lawbreakers, but ignorance of the laws, in favor of natural rights, is insanity, and invites an almost inevitable run in with the law, at a traffic stop or interference with the police power, during a home fire crisis, or angry neighbor dispute.
NYS Criminal Code and Federal Criminal Codes...............read up.
Ghost Guns are history due to the riff raff...............
Go ahead, get haunted, if, you can get the parts.
Dean Wormer was right.
By the way:
spectrumlocalnews.com
Mean Arms mag locks are now ILLEGAL in NYS...........cannot be sold or resold.
They may be illegal to even own installed on any gun, and certainly does not make a full featured AW legal anymore, and cancels the grey area about the mag lock feature legality, for most cops. Various types of them may be felon time now.
All Mag locks illegal?
AG notified .............no sales of parts to NYS, kind of.
ag.ny.gov
NYS Criminal Code and Federal Criminal Codes...............read up.
Ghost Guns are history due to the riff raff...............
Go ahead, get haunted, if, you can get the parts.
Dean Wormer was right.
By the way:
New York AG James announces settlements for families of Buffalo shooting victims
MEAN Arms will pay $1.75 million to the families of those killed in the 2022 mass shooting.
spectrumlocalnews.com
Mean Arms mag locks are now ILLEGAL in NYS...........cannot be sold or resold.
They may be illegal to even own installed on any gun, and certainly does not make a full featured AW legal anymore, and cancels the grey area about the mag lock feature legality, for most cops. Various types of them may be felon time now.
All Mag locks illegal?
AG notified .............no sales of parts to NYS, kind of.
AG James Pumps Brakes On Online “Ghost Gun” Sellers, Orders Cease And Desist Of Sales Into New York
Companies Purport to Sell Partially Milled Firearms Components Despite State Assault Weapons Ban NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today
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There are no “gun” control laws. There are “firearm” STATUTES. “Firearm” is a statutory term created to LEGALLY infringe on your lawful right to bear arms. LEGAL and lawful are not the same. Stand lawfully on your God given rights.You are not lawbreakers, but ignorance of the laws, in favor of natural rights, is insanity, and invites an almost inevitable run in with the law, at a traffic stop or interference with the police power, during a home fire crisis, or angry neighbor dispute.
NYS Criminal Code and Federal Criminal Codes...............read up.
Ghost Guns are history due to the riff raff...............
Go ahead, get haunted, if, you can get the parts.
Dean Wormer was right.
By the way:
New York AG James announces settlements for families of Buffalo shooting victims
MEAN Arms will pay $1.75 million to the families of those killed in the 2022 mass shooting.
Mean Arms mag locks are now ILLEGAL in NYS...........cannot be sold or resold.
They may be illegal to even own installed on any gun, and certainly does not make a full featured AW legal anymore, and cancels the grey area about the mag lock feature legality, for most cops. Various types of them may be felon time now.
All Mag locks illegal?
AG notified .............no sales of parts to NYS, kind of.
AG James Pumps Brakes On Online “Ghost Gun” Sellers, Orders Cease And Desist Of Sales Into New York
Companies Purport to Sell Partially Milled Firearms Components Despite State Assault Weapons Ban NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today
spat
.950 JDJ
You do understand that NYS are not the "good guys" here, right ?You are not lawbreakers, but ignorance of the laws, in favor of natural rights, is insanity, and invites an almost inevitable run in with the law, at a traffic stop or interference with the police power, during a home fire crisis, or angry neighbor dispute.
NYS Criminal Code and Federal Criminal Codes...............read up.
Ghost Guns are history due to the riff raff...............
Go ahead, get haunted, if, you can get the parts.
Dean Wormer was right.
By the way:
New York AG James announces settlements for families of Buffalo shooting victims
MEAN Arms will pay $1.75 million to the families of those killed in the 2022 mass shooting.
Mean Arms mag locks are now ILLEGAL in NYS...........cannot be sold or resold.
They may be illegal to even own installed on any gun, and certainly does not make a full featured AW legal anymore, and cancels the grey area about the mag lock feature legality, for most cops. Various types of them may be felon time now.
All Mag locks illegal?
AG notified .............no sales of parts to NYS, kind of.
AG James Pumps Brakes On Online “Ghost Gun” Sellers, Orders Cease And Desist Of Sales Into New York
Companies Purport to Sell Partially Milled Firearms Components Despite State Assault Weapons Ban NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today
They swapped their red coats for purple ties, but it's the same thing.
96coal449
.308 Win
It's never going to be fixed, and I'm not referring to NYS.
That's a much more conceivable task.
That's a much more conceivable task.
BlakeLok
9mm
New prediction: if SCOTUS overturns the AWB, NY will upgrade the current semi-auto transfer permit into a semi-auto possession permit. Meaning you will need a permit to possess a semi-auto rifle, not just to take possession of like we have today. Existing guns will be grandfathered in.....maybe?
C3D
.338 Win Mag
If not obvious the risk is now through the roof that the SCOTUS will NOT find in favor of Viramontes. The court already feels under tremendous threat from the new Democrat majority and a pro-RKBA in this case would become a cause celebre for D calls to pack the court with 5 more Ketanji DEI positions.
Imagining that you all part of Robin Hood's merry band, is suicide.
Yep build all the ghosts in NYS that you want............. to prove a point about the Iron Curtain.
Youth and enthusiasm, is usually overcome by observant LE officers, and treachery/ surveillance of the I-net.
Ever check you computer's internet connection list, for hidden networks?
Yep build all the ghosts in NYS that you want............. to prove a point about the Iron Curtain.
Youth and enthusiasm, is usually overcome by observant LE officers, and treachery/ surveillance of the I-net.
Ever check you computer's internet connection list, for hidden networks?
spat
.950 JDJ
Are you familiar with the word quisling, or the history of the man it's derived from ?