Largest ADK ORES Solar Farm on Hold

[MothMan]

This girl might be progressive but she doesn't have a nose ring.

Back in my day the ADK Park was off limit ti commercialization like this. Now foriegn developers just say "what park".

Adirondack park ORES solar project suddenly on hold amid money woes

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FUKH!!

 

[MothMan]

@nortatoga Any of this near you?

 

[FP1201]

This girl might be progressive but she doesn't have a nose ring.

Back in my day the ADK Park was off limit ti commercialization like this. Now foriegn developers just say "what park".

Adirondack park ORES solar project suddenly on hold amid money woes

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FUKH!!

Actually I've been watching her and her message before the ORES thing became an issue, and she's right. ORES acting as a ghost division of the Albany machine is disturbing enough that I made contact with our State Senator and Assemblyman with concerned; they invited her to their Office and I think She spoke before the Legislature. Initial interest came from her having the Amish build a live-in Barn and she's here in the North Country.

 

[CNYJohn]

Foreign developers
State money
Low output per dollar invested
Stinks of kickbacks

In the same park that if you cut a branch off a tree you can go to jail.......


She is kinda whacked in her total overall political beliefs so she fits right in with Saratoga County but I have to agree with her opposition to solar being built with public funds on land that is more valuable for other endeavors

 

[Saltwater60]

Foreign developers
State money
Low output per dollar invested
Stinks of kickbacks

In the same park that if you cut a branch off a tree you can go to jail.......


She is kinda whacked in her total overall political beliefs so she fits right in with Saratoga County but I have to agree with her opposition to solar being built with public funds on land that is more valuable for other endeavors

I have watched many of her videos and seen many Facebook posts. I have not gotten a liberal vibe from her, but I can’t say I know too much about her so it is possible.
Even if she is on the liberal side o don’t really care and I will support her 100% on this. We can all find some common ground. I think it would mean more and become more effective coming from their own side of the political spectrum anyway. Me yelling at them about this they would simply say he’s a…. And ignore me.
I have liked and agreed with everything I have seen from her, but admittedly it’s only ORES and solar crap. Maybe it’s about time those on their side see what can happen and what has been happening to conservatives in this state for decades now. Maybe they will understand and see where we are coming from.
I will also say people that say they are liberal aren’t always liberal. My wife has a friend who claims to be very liberal and everything I have heard from her mouth is mostly what we would agree with in here.
She hated Covid and the lockdowns. She don’t want to be forced into a vaccine
She doesn’t want kids genitals mitigated by stupid parents.
Thinks cuomo and Hochul were nuts and spend too much.
Hayes high taxes
She’s not a huge fan of guns but doesn’t want to take money away.
I could go on but there are a lot of commonalities. Outside of her hating Trump for gutting the education department most other things are at least common ground.

 

[Beerman]

Solar power in the Adirondacks is as effective as ethics in the NY legislature. Incompatible.

 

[Bustedknees]

I've been trying to decide if solor security cameras would work at my ADK camp. The heavy pollen has to be a factor too.

 

[Zerex]

Trump has made it very difficult to build new solar farms, anywhere in CONUS.

 

[nortatoga]

@nortatoga Any of this near you?

About 30 miles west in Fulton County out Rt 29.

 

[FP1201]

I've been trying to decide if solor security cameras would work at my ADK camp. The heavy pollen has to be a factor too.

I have a harborfreight solar battery charger mounted to the South side of my Hangar that keeps a Battery fully charged...$15. and has worked two years now.

 

[MothMan]

Solar power in the Adirondacks is as effective as ethics in the NY legislature. Incompatible.

May I quote you?

 

[FP1201]

May I quote you?

Well there's actually a chance of Solar working whereas the Legislature...

 

[Saltwater60]

Trump has made it very difficult to build new solar farms, anywhere in CONUS.

Come to my area and you’ll reverse this thought immediately. I can’t even keep up with all the farmland being taken in Genesee county by for solar. There are entire blocks being solar and a few entire streets it seems.

 

[FP1201]

Come to my area and you’ll reverse this thought immediately. I can’t even keep up with all the farmland being taken in Genesee county by for solar. There are entire blocks being solar and a few entire streets it seems.

There must be twenty of them in a ten mile radius of where we live...up around Fort Drum there's even more, and the Transmission lines are High Tension Towers....About thirty years ago the Landfill came, then came the Wind Towers, and now Solar Farms, and now I find out Jefferson County in number one in the State for cases of Cancer...fuck this place!

 

[Beerman]

There must be twenty of them in a ten mile radius of where we live...up around Fort Drum there's even more, and the Transmission lines are High Tension Towers....About thirty years ago the Landfill came, then came the Wind Towers, and now Solar Farms, and now I find out Jefferson County in number one in the State for cases of Cancer...fuck this place!

Don’t go braggin’ about your successful carcinoma numbers just yet. There’s plenty to go around.


Warren County was investigated because it had the highest incidence rate for all cancers combined of any county in New York in 2011-2015. Lung cancer, laryngeal cancer, esophageal cancer, oral cavity (mouth and throat) cancer, and brain tumors were among the specific cancers investigated.

• Final Report: Cancer Incidence Report for the Warren County Study Area(PDF)
  • Executive Summary of Final Report (PDF)
• Warren County Cancer Incidence Investigation (PDF). November 7, 2019 public meeting presentation at SUNY Adirondack Community College

 

[FP1201]

Don’t go braggin’ about your successful carcinoma numbers just yet. There’s plenty to go around.


Warren County was investigated because it had the highest incidence rate for all cancers combined of any county in New York in 2011-2015. Lung cancer, laryngeal cancer, esophageal cancer, oral cavity (mouth and throat) cancer, and brain tumors were among the specific cancers investigated.

• Final Report: Cancer Incidence Report for the Warren County Study Area(PDF)
  • Executive Summary of Final Report (PDF)
• Warren County Cancer Incidence Investigation (PDF). November 7, 2019 public meeting presentation at SUNY Adirondack Community College

Take a second to look up "Ewing's Sarcoma" it's a very rare pediatric Cancer: Our School has FIVE cases of it right now, and my Son has been afflicted with it twice.
Plenty of Breast and Lung to go around as well...I'm not up on numbers, but WTF!

 

[Saltwater60]

There must be twenty of them in a ten mile radius of where we live...up around Fort Drum there's even more, and the Transmission lines are High Tension Towers....About thirty years ago the Landfill came, then came the Wind Towers, and now Solar Farms, and now I find out Jefferson County in number one in the State for cases of Cancer...fuck this place!

My area is probably not much farther behind you in cancer. Lots of chemical dumps here, radioactive areas, and other bad stuff.

 

[1075tech]

Now you need to see what the cancer rate is for the past 5 years and compare it to the rate for 2015-2020.

What could have possibly changed?

 

[JRtraderny]

Actually I've been watching her and her message before the ORES thing became an issue, and she's right. ORES acting as a ghost division of the Albany machine is disturbing enough that I made contact with our State Senator and Assemblyman with concerned; they invited her to their Office and I think She spoke before the Legislature. Initial interest came from her having the Amish build a live-in Barn and she's here in the North Country.

That young lady is going to need a security team .

 

[fresch]

Now you need to see what the cancer rate is for the past 5 years and compare it to the rate for 2015-2020.

What could have possibly changed?

If I was a leared person I covid figure out what.

 

[livingston]

Genesee County leaders say they've 'had enough' as solar farms rapidly transform rural landscape​

 

[Bigfoot]

I live in Genesee County, which has a population of only 58,000. That's because this county is mostly made up of swampland, woodland, and farm fields. The farm fields are turning into solar panel fields at an astounding pace...

#green new deal scam

Edit: On a side note, 6-7 years ago, our (the wife and I) friends who lived nearby sold the property that they had lived on for 34 years after the farm field behind their house turned into a solar panel field. They sold immediately and moved to NC.

Besides all that, WNY is a really shitty area for solar panel farms for a variety of reasons.
But I suppose that doesn't matter when it's a follow-the-money type of thing.

Another edit: I'm not done yet. Then there are also the wind turbines. I've lived here in rural Genesee County for 36 years. And it's getting wrecked by the green energy bullshit. Plus, my electric bill has gone way up from what it used to be, even though I'm using less electricity than ever before...

One more important thing, as the video posted above points out. The state government makes it so the local governments don't, for all intended purposes, have any say in it. Therefore, neither do the local people.

I'll file this under shut up you locals and pay your taxes.

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[Zerex]

Previously approved solar farms are a fact, but new solar farm approvals, will be difficult to obtain at the Fed level.

Its real:

Trump just blocked 165 US wind projects – here’s what’s behind it

The Trump administration stalls 165 US wind projects as the Pentagon halts approvals citing security concerns, per a Financial Times report.

electrek.co

 

[livingston]

Genesee County farmers lease thousands of acres to solar projects amid struggle to stay profitable​

 

[FP1201]

Pretty insightful from State Senator Mark Walczyk:
On the Senate floor this week I strongly opposed bill S2585, a bill that hands the Office of Renewable Energy Siting the authority to map, plan, and drive new transmission lines across New York — with virtually no meaningful local input or protection for home rule. I asked directly: if local zoning or permitting would prevent a proposed transmission project, what can a municipality do to protect itself? The answer I heard was essentially: nothing.

That’s the core problem. This bill shifts siting power away from local governments and gives the state agency and utilities the lead role in drawing the map and deciding where lines go. Communities care where transmission and renewable projects are sited. Local zoning and planning aren’t obstacles to progress — they’re how we protect farmland, neighborhoods, and the character of communities while responsibly expanding our grid.

S2585 doubles down on an energy strategy that’s already failed to deliver. Since the CLCPA we’ve deactivated about 4,700 megawatts of in‑state generation, spent $88.7 billion on green projects that produced only roughly 2,000 new megawatts, driven up costs for families, and face reliability warnings from NYISO heading into summer. Meanwhile, farmland and local preservation have been sidelined and trust in the process has eroded.

This bill creates a planning process that looks good on paper but removes real local authority: ORES, working with PSC and utilities, develops the map — and local governments are left with procedural participation instead of real power to prevent a transmission corridor from cutting through their town.

You can see the full exchange from the Senator floor by clicking here.

 

[MothMan]

I just sued New York State and ORES

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[Saltwater60]

I live in Genesee County, which has a population of only 58,000. That's because this county is mostly made up of swampland, woodland, and farm fields. The farm fields are turning into solar panel fields at an astounding pace...

#green new deal scam

Edit: On a side note, 6-7 years ago, our (the wife and I) friends who lived nearby sold the property that they had lived on for 34 years after the farm field behind their house turned into a solar panel field. They sold immediately and moved to NC.

Besides all that, WNY is a really shitty area for solar panel farms for a variety of reasons.
But I suppose that doesn't matter when it's a follow-the-money type of thing.

Another edit: I'm not done yet. Then there are also the wind turbines. I've lived here in rural Genesee County for 36 years. And it's getting wrecked by the green energy bullshit. Plus, my electric bill has gone way up from what it used to be, even though I'm using less electricity than ever before...

One more important thing, as the video posted above points out. The state government makes it so the local governments don't, for all intended purposes, have any say in it. Therefore, neither do the local people.

I'll file this under shut up you locals and pay your taxes.

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This is true. I work in Genesee County at times and it is disgusting how fast and how many solar panels are being installed. There are street you drive down and you can’t avoid seeing them. They are adding more.
Why are they only put in rural areas?

 

[rushmore]

If people want to put solar panels on their roofs for the heck of it, and at their own expenseright ahead.

If local towns or cities want to build covered parking with solar on top, or add it to city buildings, and it is in the budget for them to do so, and passes a vote - go right ahead.

Solar is an interesting technology that I believe will eventually become well adapted enough and efficient enough to do humanity a lot of good. I support it being put in place either for private use or reasonable public use, as a means of furthering the technology and potential cost savings.

That being said - screw solar “farms” in New York and especially the adirondacks. That land is to be left for the pristine enjoyment of ALL and for the conversation of land. I firmly am against whatever monstrosity they are trying to build.

 

[Grimscale]

There are street you drive down and you can’t avoid seeing them.

There are roads I won't drive down anymore because they have had to put huge steel plates across the roads to protect culverts from the heavy trucks constantly going back and forth. Hit one of those at 55MPH and watch the belts in your tires shatter. Hit one on a motorcycle, especially during inclement weather, and good luck surviving.

 

[Modean]

Seems like solar farms have been cropping up in pastures all over my corner of Oswego County. Of course, they spend a significant chunk of the year coved by snow, so I do have to question their effectiveness......