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tirwin1 said:
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Everything Owens has been saying about the Kirk assassination was proven wrong during the 5-day preliminary hearing.

Ever since Owens went down the conspiracy road, she has destroyed her credibility.
I don't know how anyone can take her seriously. Credibility is an important thing.
 
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Bigfoot said:
Everything Owens has been saying about the Kirk assassination was proven wrong during the 5-day preliminary hearing.

Ever since Owens went down the conspiracy road, she has destroyed her credibility.
I don't know how anyone can take her seriously. Credibility is an important thing.
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I really used to like her, and Carlson.

Not sure what happened but it's like a switch was thrown and they both just lost it.
 
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spat said:
I really used to like her, and Carlson.

Not sure what happened but it's like a switch was thrown and they both just lost it.
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Yeah, me too. There's no turning back for either one of them now. They've gone too far down the conspiracy hole and destroyed their credibility with anyone who wants the truth backed up with facts.

I've noticed the people who need to fulfill their preconceived narrative have become big fans of both.
 
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Bigfoot said:
Yeah, me too. There's no turning back for either one of them now. They've gone too far down the conspiracy hole and destroyed their credibility with anyone who wants the truth backed up with facts.

I've noticed the people who need to fulfill their preconceived narrative have become big fans of both.
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I think there's a lot of weird things being pushed by people cranking out content for clicks and engagement. The algorithms are doing some wild things to keep them at the top. Monetized channels and social media make people do things for money, it's the oldest profession out there.


Something is way off, and it's only going to get worse which will only fuel more conspiracies, ironically which will actually be true.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
I think there's a lot of weird things being pushed by people cranking out content for clicks and engagement. The algorithms are doing some wild things to keep them at the top. Monetized channels and social media make people do things for money, it's the oldest profession out there.


Something is way off, and it's only going to get worse which will only fuel more conspiracies, ironically which will actually be true.
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That sounds like a Conspiracy.
 
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Defilade said:
So surprised on a gun forum we have people actually believing the 30-06 Narrative. You cant have much firearm experience in my book. Blows my mind.

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You also posted a video of what a 30-06 did to a cow. I have personally seen a 30-06 go thru a deer and a bear, in both cases the bullet entered behind the right shoulder and exited behind the left, leaving only a slightly larger hole. Very little or no expansion at all. Oh, and you believe the earth is flat so that kills any credibility you may have had.
 
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stokes said:
You also posted a video of what a 30-06 did to a cow. I have personally seen a 30-06 go thru a deer and a bear, in both cases the bullet entered behind the right shoulder and exited behind the left, leaving only a slightly larger hole. Very little or no expansion at all. Oh, and you believe the earth is flat so that kills any credibility you may have had.
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And I have personally seen bodies shot up and will tell you its a fucking mess. There are plenty of videos demonstrating this with meat, ballistic gell so I think you are talking thru your ass.
 
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Not saying it cant cause the damage to the cow. Just saying that it doesnt always happen that way, a lot depends on distance, and most important the bullet itself, FMJ will pass right thru. In the 2 cases I posted both were with silver tips, within 40yds or so, very close, little or no expansion at all.
 
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Robin said:
I've seen it both ways, its' predictably unpredictable what will happen after impact.
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Agreed. Bullets do weird things once they leave the barrel. I've personally witnessed some wild shit that I would have considered impossible, and there's countless videos of the same. JFK's assassination is a great example of bullets doing seemingly impossible shit. Or not, if you believe the conspiracy theories. Frankly, I could see it either way (multiple shooters, or bullets doing weird shit).

Physics just gets weird once they depart the realm of velocities we're not used to. Going way out there... light, which travels at the speed of light, experiences no time whatsoever. That galaxy we observe from the start of the universe? The light traveled countless miles for 13.8 billion years until it hit our telescopes. But from the perspective of the photon, its creation and absorption happened at the exact same infinitesimally small point in time.
 
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Its not the one weird thing, its the multiple weird things occurring together .
the shooter changes clothes on the roof, reassembles rifle on roof, forgets screw driver, flees a short distance, then reassembles the rifle flees to Dairy queen. to name a few. shit doesnt look right

As far as the bullet not penetrating , I was thinking that it may have possibly been a hand load with 50% powder to quiet the shot . the real shot could or would have come from withen the building , maybe from a classroom below the shooters position . A head shot at 140 yards with half powder , not taking in the proper drop , may be why he was hit in the neck and not the head


The only other time I remember hearing of a 3006 bullet being stopped , was in the assasination of martin Luther king

James Earl ray shot king with an 06 round from 200 feet , the bullet did not penetrate and was recovered in Kings body. King was hit in the face, it should have taken his head completely off. and my theory is that its only possible with a reduced hand load meant to quiet the shot in other words another shooter , possibly with a suppressor.

You can extend that theroy to the Kennedy assassination, where a pristine bullet with no deformation was found possibly comming from a reduced round .


I cant comprehend a normal 06 round not penetrateing a human neck . somethings off
 
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Charlie Kirk wasn’t killed with a 30-06. Period! Let me guess? The ballastic dummy didnt have hair on its neck to stop the round.

This test involved using a very expensive bust, a ballistic-tipped bullet that surpasses the energy transfer of soft point and FMJ.

Despite the most favorable scenario allowable, it still resulted in the dummy’s head being blown off.

Regardless of the type of bullet used, a 30-06 is not stopping in 4-6 inches of flesh.

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Defilade said:
Yeah nothing to see here folks.

Charlie Kirk talking about how Jews are the number one reason countries have open borders and mass immigration.

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Posting from this podcast suggests Democrats set up this murder.

In this podcast Charlie Kirk was specifically referring to open borders and mass immigration into the United States and these comments in October 2023 explicitly focused on American sovereignty, American politics, and U.S. cultural institutions. Kirk specifically called out " Democrat Jewish donors in the country" and emphasized how their "philanthropy went toward American universities, Hollywood, and U.S.-based nonprofits." Kirk argued that this funding was directly enabling policies that eroded American sovereignty. So was it mainstream democrats or just the lunatic squad fringe?
 
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Steal2B said:
Posting from this podcast suggests Democrats set up this murder.

In this podcast Charlie Kirk was specifically referring to open borders and mass immigration into the United States and these comments in October 2023 explicitly focused on American sovereignty, American politics, and U.S. cultural institutions. Kirk specifically called out " Democrat Jewish donors in the country" and emphasized how their "philanthropy went toward American universities, Hollywood, and U.S.-based nonprofits." Kirk argued that this funding was directly enabling policies that eroded American sovereignty. So was it mainstream democrats or just the lunatic squad fringe?
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Following the money seems to settle it.
 
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Defilade said:
Charlie Kirk wasn’t killed with a 30-06. Period! Let me guess? The ballastic dummy didnt have hair on its neck to stop the round.

This test involved using a very expensive bust, a ballistic-tipped bullet that surpasses the energy transfer of soft point and FMJ.

Despite the most favorable scenario allowable, it still resulted in the dummy’s head being blown off.

Regardless of the type of bullet used, a 30-06 is not stopping in 4-6 inches of flesh.

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What? Who's the dummy?
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