Nuke Pickaxe Mountain ?

[CaseHardened]

Profane animals, deep in the mountain need to breathe to build nukes.............Food and supplies need to be brought regularly to the vast army of IRGC hiding in the tunnels. Sneak in the sarin gas in the bananas

Level the exterior of the mountain, with conventional bombs, but first cover it with sarin gas.

Although I am 100% in support of Tactical Nukes against Military Targets, I say no to Biological or Chemical Agents.

The USA has used nukes; but never Bio or Chemical. Germany or Japan could certainly have used Chemical - even they refrained.

I'm not sure Bio was advanced enough during WWII, but right now at least China is making vast strides.

Their ultimate goal is pathogens that target specific genetic groups, and not others. Ideally they would spread it around, and suddenly the only living humans would be Chinese.

But when you consider Hybrids, which many of us are, the results may be unpredictable.

 

[spat]

Although I am 100% in support of Tactical Nukes against Military Targets, I say no to Biological or Chemical Agents.

The USA has used nukes; but never Bio or Chemical. Germany or Japan could certainly have used Chemical - even they refrained.

I'm not sure Bio was advanced enough during WWII, but right now at least China is making vast strides.

Their ultimate goal is pathogens that target specific genetic groups, and not others. Ideally they would spread it around, and suddenly the only living humans would be Chinese.

But when you consider Hybrids, which many of us are, the results may be unpredictable.

Japan did use bio.

They field tested it in China.

Shirō Ishii and Unit 731 made Mengle look like a boy scout and Auschweitz look like a spa.

https://www.history.navy.mil/about-us/leadership/director/directors-corner/h-grams/h-gram-057/h-057-2.html

 

[Bigfoot]

Ho Lee Fuk!

 

[Bigfoot]

Considering COVID-19, it seems that China did the bio thing back in 2020.

 

[CaseHardened]

Considering COVID-19, it seems that China did the bio thing back in 2020.

And Iran was rocketing towards effective Nuclear Missles.

Pakistan, USSR, N Korea, all attained Nuclear Weapon Status while feckless America twiddled their thumbs.

If the American President of the time had any courage, the USA would remain the sole Nuclear Power.

 

[Defilade]

Yeah just Nuke all those rotten people!

 

[stokes]

Yeah just Nuke all those rotten people!

That vid doesnt look like Pickaxe Mt. Who said anything about nuking Tehran? Nobody, you are really showing your leftist side, just make shit up and aim it at Trump. He's gone way out of the way not to involve civilians in this war. Just shut the fuck up already.

 

[CaseHardened]

Yeah just Nuke all those rotten people!

Unlike Hamas, I am extremely reluctant to kill civilians.

Fortunately with modern intelligence and accurate weaponry, killing the military with minimal civilian casualties is practical.

 

[Defilade]

That vid doesnt look like Pickaxe Mt. Who said anything about nuking Tehran? Nobody, you are really showing your leftist side, just make shit up and aim it at Trump. He's gone way out of the way not to involve civilians in this war. Just shut the fuck up already.

I dont have to aim anything at Trump. He has already self destructed. As for Pickaxe Mt ain't nobody nuking anything unless they are a lunatic mad man. Leftist? Yeah, get a clue dictator!

 

[Blackpowdershooter30]

The ability of these "people" of obtaining a nuclear weapon needs to be stopped at all cost, period, full stop. With economic sanctions that are already in place and ravaging their economy causing the population to starve maybe arming the population to take back their country and have them surrender the material. If we have to drop the nuke to destroy the site should be at a total last resort due to the point that was made earlier that it now levels the playing field and everyone uses them against one another. China and Russia have already proven that they are paper tigers and really aren't the treat that they were were. But using nukes will allow them to become an equal threat.

Keep the pressure up on everything, take back the straight to control exports and have space force watch for every time they need to flush the toilet. Arm the population to make the IRGC no longer have the stranglehold of fear over the people and get them on the run. Then only as a absolute last resort nuke the mountain. But please make it the Davy Crockett nuke from the jeep because that would be bad ass lol

 

[Defilade]

The ability of these "people" of obtaining a nuclear weapon needs to be stopped at all cost, period, full stop. With economic sanctions that are already in place and ravaging their economy causing the population to starve maybe arming the population to take back their country and have them surrender the material. If we have to drop the nuke to destroy the site should be at a total last resort due to the point that was made earlier that it now levels the playing field and everyone uses them against one another. China and Russia have already proven that they are paper tigers and really aren't the treat that they were were. But using nukes will allow them to become an equal threat.

Keep the pressure up on everything, take back the straight to control exports and have space force watch for every time they need to flush the toilet. Arm the population to make the IRGC no longer have the stranglehold of fear over the people and get them on the run. Then only as a absolute last resort nuke the mountain. But please make it the Davy Crockett nuke from the jeep because that would be bad ass lol

Umm. No..

 

[spat]

Umm. No..

What do you think will happen if the IRGC get a nuke or ten ?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

What do you think will happen if the IRGC get a nuke or ten ?

Good question.

I used to think that if NK got them, it would lead to war in SE asia, but that doesn't appear to be the case. It looks like they are being used to secure regime continuity and survival. NK has now basically assured their survival and are untouchable without risk of thermonuclear war.

I'm sure they looked at what happened to libya and Qadaffi, that asshole actually was dumb enough to try to give up his genuine WMD program, and once he did everyone saw what happened next.


Iran could evolve like NK did and use them as insurance to be left alone for regime and country survival and deterrence,
Or,
They could use them to settle fanatical religious visions and old feuds with countries like Israel.

I don't know

 

[Bigfoot]

Iran could evolve like NK did and use them as insurance to be left alone for regime and country survival and deterrence,
Or,
They could use them to settle fanatical religious visions and old feuds with countries like Israel.

I don't know

I'm going with #2. - Fanatical being the key word.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I'm going with #2. - Fanatical being the key word.

It's certainly a possibility.

I tend to think they are more for deterrence and regime survivability, but I'll never know. I can't get in their heads and know what they're thinking.

 

[CaseHardened]

It's foolish to cut deals with the USA as our leadership changes very often.

That said, when we've beaten you to a pulp, there is no choice.

 

[CaseHardened]

Sadly, we have a real threat of Communism in our country right here and right now.

That might very well be more dangerous than foreign nukes.

Which is why I would advise DJT to follow Lincoln's example and straighten things out NOW.

 

[spat]

Good question.

I used to think that if NK got them, it would lead to war in SE asia, but that doesn't appear to be the case. It looks like they are being used to secure regime continuity and survival. NK has now basically assured their survival and are untouchable without risk of thermonuclear war.

I'm sure they looked at what happened to libya and Qadaffi, that asshole actually was dumb enough to try to give up his genuine WMD program, and once he did everyone saw what happened next.


Iran could evolve like NK did and use them as insurance to be left alone for regime and country survival and deterrence,
Or,
They could use them to settle fanatical religious visions and old feuds with countries like Israel.

I don't know

The main difference between N Korea and Iran is that the leader of N Korea is basically a guy who inherited the family grift and just wants to live the good life.

The guys who are running Iran really believe their bullshit. I think a lot of them would be perfectly happy martyring themselves as long as they get a good dig in at us in the process.

I just don't think it's in our interests to allow a regime who's main slogan is "death to America" to have a nuke.

 

[Bigfoot]

It's not exactly rocket science. IMHO

The fact that the fanatical regime is being stopped from having nukes, I think is a really good thing for a lot of people worldwide, but most importantly the people here at home.

 

[Defilade]

What do you think will happen if the IRGC get a nuke or ten ?

Nothing. Just like everyone else that has Nukes.

 

[Defilade]

It's not exactly rocket science. IMHO

The fact that the fanatical regime is being stopped from having nukes, I think is a really good thing for a lot of people worldwide, but most importantly the people here at home.

Pretty sure the rest of the world thinks we are the fanatics. All that NATO help and all kinda proves it. Israel loves us though as they use us for their agenda. Not rocket science.

 

[tirwin1]

Pretty sure the rest of the world thinks we are the fanatics. All that NATO help and all kinda proves it. Israel loves us though as they use us for their agenda. Not rocket science.

Fanatics you say......interesting. Like believing the the earth is flat?

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Bigfoot]

The poll results are about what I would have guessed. After so many years, a fellow gets to know this place... lol

 

[spat]

Fanatics you say......interesting. Like believing the the earth is flat?

 

[Defilade]

Fanatics you say......interesting. Like believing the the earth is flat?

Wow! Too bad you are not capable of believing your own eyes.. Who is the Fanatic again? Nice you steered the topic off course tho.

 

[CaseHardened]

Wow! Too bad you are not capable of believing your own eyes.. Who is the Fanatic again? Nice you steered the topic off course tho.

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To state anything is "Flat" requires defining what flat is. A machinist could tell you that "Flat" for one purpose is not flat for another.

Fractal mathematics tell us it is impossible to know long the Coastline is without defining the measurement tool. A coastline measured with a one-mile stick will be far shorter than one measured with a one-inch long ruler.

Is the earth a sphere? Certainly not even close to a theorectical perfect one.

So grabbing the fact the Earth is only approximately spherical, it also is approximately flat.

I'm pretty sure that few ancient cultures had the time or inclination to worry about the shape of the earth.

I identify as an ancient so I don't care either.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

To state anything is "Flat" requires defining what flat is. A machinist could tell you that "Flat" for one purpose is not flat for another.

Fractal mathematics tell us it is impossible to know long the Coastline is without defining the measurement tool. A coastline measured with a one-mile stick will be far shorter than one measured with a one-inch long ruler.

Is the earth a sphere? Certainly not even close to a theorectical perfect one.

So grabbing the fact the Earth is only approximately spherical, it also is approximately flat.

I'm pretty sure that few ancient cultures had the time or inclination to worry about the shape of the earth.

I identify as an ancient so I don't care either.

The earth is an oblate spheroid

 

[Cooolone]

Nothing. Just like everyone else that has Nukes.

Ummmm, unintelligent post that makes unrealistic assumptions. Iran by demonstration has acted in direct opposition to your proclamation. Since the Shah was outted and the Islamic Revolutionaries took over, they've done nothing but inflict "Terror" unto their own and the world!

Pretty sure the rest of the world thinks we are the fanatics. All that NATO help and all kinda proves it. Israel loves us though as they use us for their agenda. Not rocket science.

Nah, only tree hugging progressives that can't handle truth.

The previous administrations that allowed Iran to fester over decades and even exist is fanatical... It took a bold move by a leader with balls and backbone to finally extract retribution for the offenses committed against the US in the 70's!!! The 70's ... Cuba played around and paid the price, so did many other countries, but Iran inexplicably escaped for way too long. And now ... The check and debt was called due.

As for the subject matter of this thread, no, nukes shouldn't be used, ever again... We have the capability and have already demonstrated military superiority over these sand diggers ... And now they're suffocating under financial collapse too. Military use of Nuclear weapons isn't a first line or any line offensive weapon, it is a last resort mutual annihilation doomsday weapon! There's absolutely zero justification for its use as a primary offensive weapon for any reason.

The Bunker Busters could do the job, and does it really matter that the facility is buried so deep that bombing all access and entrances make it unusable outside ridiculous measures that would be clearly exhibited and the nation unable to hide from overhead view? I agree though that those bombs are limited and I wonder if we have ratcheted up production to bolster our inventory since using them already. I remember reading we don't have too many of them. But yeah, a half dozen or so would render the place useless...

Nukes, and their use, isn't such a simple subject. Military doctrine would require a conventional war with escalation to even approach the trigger point (pun intended) for putting their use on the table to consider. Again, I'm not sure there's even a scenario in all the treaties governing their use and agreed upon by the 9 countries that have nukes for an offense type situation. You can be sure, not one has bitched about the US taking Iran capability out, and they're all very tight about making sure who else can get them, because it's an exclusive club for sure! And be sure to, that's it THEY who'll decide who has them. Iran will never have or I tain Nukes, because if they do, THEN use against them with nukes would be "Defensive" and justification applied!

Anyways... Long winded answer to a not so simple question. Even though I'd love to see a glass parking lot over there, it has to be NO! Their decimation can be had by other means and our current leader is making that happen. He's smarter than people allow for, especially those suffering from TDS!

Have a great day all!

 

[fresch]

Keep in mind you are dealing with people who are still fighting a 2000+ years holy war; they would use a nuke. Do you not see how they act when in other countries? Or how freedom is controlled in island countries? Off with hands and heads!