So, does this mean the negotiations are off?All done now??
Looks like the Iranians shot some missiles at some C-17s delivering some patriots to Isreal.Looks like Trump couldn't wait till after the election.
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US forces hit Iran’s Qeshm Island as part of a series of secret strikes: report
US forces reportedly launched a secret attack on Iran’s Qeshm Island Monday, the latest in a series of small-scale strikes aimed at securing the Strait of Hormuz.nypost.com
Wasn't that from last summer ?So, does this mean the negotiations are off?![]()
That video did look familiar??Wasn't that from last summer ?
Well, he was talking about Fordow, Isfahan , and Natanz.That video did look familiar??
We shall know in 2 weeks.So, does this mean the negotiations are off?![]()
I honestly don't know why Trump started bombing Iran again. Is this correct or just some disinformation? If true Trump certainly could have done a better job communicating this. I don't think it would have changed the election results.
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Wow. Senator John Kennedy. How is this not everywhere. Seriously. This is insane. Listen to what he’s actually saying.x.com
I'm really conflicted about all this.
I support our military 100%.
But I'm pretty jaded by Iraq/Afghanistan.
I absolutely believe Iran does a lot of bad shit and the Ayatollah was a huge asshole, and the IRGC are terrible people. They absolutely are responsible for American dead. The world is better off without them.
I have no problem with the regular Iranian people. They are just trying to live their lives, and I genuinely hope this ends up better for them and they can prosper and have more freedom.
But the whole thing feels a little slimy to me that we are pre-emptively attacking another country when we should be America first. America first doesn't mean doing Israels bidding for them. It feels like we are being manipulated into this.
I would love to have POTUS share the Intel with the people and explain why we had to attack now without delay. Was Iran realllllly about to put nukes on ICBMs? And even if the intel says so, I'm not sure if I would believe it anyway. Fool me once shame on you....
This might end up great for America and our interests but it also might be an enormous miscalculation.
Honestly if China is planning a move on Taiwan they may not have a better opportunity than right now.
I'm very uneasy about all this. I really wanted a more isolationist position and focus on putting America first. If we have to deviate from our isolationist positions at least clearly communicate to the people WHY we have to do so and why it's in our best interest.
Finish the fucking job!!!! What do you have to lose at this point.
Robin
Yep I agree. The FBI and CIA are pros at it.U.S. is very good at getting radicals, criminals and drug addicts staging civil unrest and violent confrontation with authorities. More often than not it is done by hijacking legitimate protests. To say they represent the will of the people of that country is a stretch. It's hundreds out of millions. When violent regime change succeeds, the rest either accepts it or civil war breaks out.
It's not the will of the people. The people will suffer as a whole.
The immediate goal is to remove their ability to destabilize the region.I agree. But my question is what constitutes "finishing the job?" Destroying the IRG? Killing the new ayatollah? Complete regime change? Military occupation (we saw how well that worked out in Iraq and Afghanistan)?
I would love nothing more than to see the Iranian people throw off this despotic regime. But I'm done with spending American money and shedding American blood to do that.
They're too busy doing that in Portland and Minneapolis to bother with Iran these days.U.S. is very good at getting radicals, criminals and drug addicts staging civil unrest and violent confrontation with authorities. More often than not it is done by hijacking legitimate protests. To say they represent the will of the people of that country is a stretch. It's hundreds out of millions. When violent regime change succeeds, the rest either accepts it or civil war breaks out.
It's not the will of the people. The people will suffer as a whole.
Hello Saigon!
I believe we were supposed to keep our fingers out of things. I have no information on why he started it. He was doing good on making NATO pony up, if they do. Bringing jobs back.
One would think some very deep information was shown or the auto pen (deep state nwo?) is at it again, or like covid got fooled again.
None of the political class ever really pay when caught, this is just theatre to cover what they do all day every day. They fight each other and with the same from other countries.
It's good to be the king.
Would you care to explain how Grok would know what classified intelligence briefings Trump was receiving ?All 18 US Intelligence Agencies told Donald Trump that Iran did not have a nuclear weapons program.
•@grok• TRUE or FALSE
TRUE. The US Intelligence Community (its 18 agencies) assessed that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and has not reauthorized the program suspended in 2003. DNI Tulsi Gabbard presented this consensus to Congress and the administration; former NCTC director Joe Kent later confirmed the 18-agency agreement. Trump publicly dismissed the assessment.
So many powerful people from all over the world were in there that the shock to the global system from exposing it scares the people who know.My cynical opinion...there were too many politicians from both sides of the aisle in the Epstein Files. We all stopped talking about that once bombs started falling.
So many powerful people from all over the world were in there that the shock to the global system from exposing it scares the people who know.
They also salivate over the power that information gives them.
But, maybe people are calling their bluff. If it's too big to expose, then it's not useful for blackmail. Blackmail requires that the target believes you will release the information. Once you demonstrate that it's "too dangerous to release", then it's useless for blackmail.
Maybe the whole thing is just mutually assured destruction. It's the political equivalent to nuclear weapons.
In any case, I really hope that someone decides the system is so corrupt that nuking it all is the best course of action.
Might it just be that there ARE sleeper cells here in America and leadership, control, and funding comes from Iran?
That those cells will remain quiet until instructed to act, so each time the US figuratively cuts off their heads, things remain quiet here? *snip*
It seems to me that if Iranian sleeper cells were actually a thing. They would have been activated long ago, probably when the Iranian Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and a bunch of the other leadership were killed. And if not then, probably after the second round of leadership was killed off, or even after the third stringers were wiped out, and so on.
If Iranian sleeper cells actually existed, it seems to me they would have been activated by now.
If they don't activate after the Ayatollah and the rest of the leadership are killed. What more will it take?
Very early on in this thread, or maybe it was a different thread, IDK. I said that I think the sleeper cell thing is probably bullshit... At this point anyway, it seems that I was correct with that assumption.