Duty To Inform - It May Be Coming To NY...

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Darth said:
Yeah, why not? I even tell them what color panties I'm wearing. No extra charge.
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Panties, color me suprised, I would have bet you usually went commando. I would love to see you on Cops - Live ..... "Officer, I feel I should inform you I have a carry license and I am traveling commando".
 
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Panties, color me suprised, I would have bet you usually went commando. It would love to see a Cops - Live ..... "Officer, I feel I should inform you I have a carry license and I am traveling commando".
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I prefer pantyhose, but the cops are coy on that, so I have to lay low:

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I understand that but concealed is concealed. You do that properly without printing and don't commit any crimes and you'll never get caught unless you have a heart attack.
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while I agree with you there are many things that could come up that could cause your gun to be discovered while carrying outside restrictions. You could need your firearm for self defense, car accidents in parking lots, medical emergencies. Now I'm not saying don't carry your gun I'm just saying it's not impossible for something to come up. I carry where my little piece of paper says I can't so I'm with you.
 
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Glenn B said:
...or at least to Nassau County. I am saying so because in the latest version of the Nassau County Police Department's Pistol License Section Handbook (handbook) this italicized notation is found as the its last entry:



I do not recall ever seeing that in earlier versions of the handbook. I realize that saying one 'should' do something is not a legal requirement. My bet is though that in the next version or two of the handbook, it will say 'must' or 'shall' notify. It is just the way of the current level of abuse of our rights that is continually taking place in NY.
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Notice the words "should" the legal meaning is not mandatory. If they used the word "will" then it would be mandatory. I would not worry about it at all. Should does not mean shall or will, it is optional.
 
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while I agree with you there are many things that could come up that could cause your gun to be discovered while carrying outside restrictions. You could need your firearm for self defense, car accidents in parking lots, medical emergencies. Now I'm not saying don't carry your gun I'm just saying it's not impossible for something to come up. I carry where my little piece of paper says I can't so I'm with you.
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At that point you inform. Whenever asked to step out of the vehicle, something is wrong. You inform. Otherwise, you just give the cop what he asked for (license and registration) and accept your ticket.
 
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You can do what you want, I will do all that I can to get out of a ticket. (Pretend for a moment that I do not have a badge). If showing a bit of due, mutual respect, is overboard, than so be it.

You gonna make a big deal when this becomes the norm all over the State, that is, all cops knowing who is potentially armed? The day is coming very, very quick that all information will be in each and every car. Like I said, most agencies already have the knowledge.

When asked by the traffic cop, you gonna keep it to yourself?
 
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GOPerfect said:
You can do what you want, I will do all that I can to get out of a ticket. (Pretend for a moment that I do not have a badge). If showing a bit of due, mutual respect, is overboard, than so be it.

You gonna make a big deal when this becomes the norm all over the State, that is, all cops knowing who is potentially armed? The day is coming very, very quick that all information will be in each and every car. Like I said, most agencies already have the knowledge.

When asked by the traffic cop, you gonna keep it to yourself?
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That 10 percent that feels you shouldn't be armed and what they'll put you through is not worth getting out of a ticket for me. I want to go home safe.
 
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I guess I am trying to understand what the big deal is here. I always used to inform, never once did it escalate into something.


I get/got pulled over a lot, never once was it an issue.
 
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stokes said:
How is being required to inform an officer,who is probably on edge everytime he pulls a car over,that you are carrying a firearm an infringement on your rights?I would think anything you can do to put an officer making a traffic stop at ease would go a long way to helping you getting a break.
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One is being compelled by the government to give information to the government without due process.
 
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I thought now that information is connected to your drivers license the amendments make you include your drivers license number
 
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GOPerfect said:
I guess I am trying to understand what the big deal is here. I always used to inform, never once did it escalate into something.


I get/got pulled over a lot, never once was it an issue.
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Whether or not I decide to let them know I am armed is or should be up to me not to the government. In most cases, I let them know I am armed. It is not informing them that bothers me if I choose to inform, it would be being compelled by the government to do yet another thing to bow to them that disturbs me. The government consists of the servants of the people but somehow we are being turned more and more into the puppets of politicians.
 
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I thought now that information is connected to your drivers license the amendments make you include your drivers license number
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For the few who have not been added, the day is coming. All new permits are directly tied into the DMV. Those of us with older permits that have not been updated will be with the new permit process in NY.
 
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Glenn B said:
Whether or not I decide to let them know I am armed is or should be up to me not to the government. In most cases, I let them know I am armed. It is not informing them that bothers me if I choose to inform, it would be being compelled by the government to do yet another thing to bow to them that disturbs me. The government consists of the servants of the people but somehow we are being turned more and more into the puppets of politicians.
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I kind of figured that is where people were going. Well stated. I have a choice as of now, I chose to always let them know. When the time comes to be forced to answer, my opinion may change.

Kind of like DUI checkpoints, I never answer the question, "Have you been drinking tonight".
 
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