Church shooting in Texas, several casualties reported

[camper4lyfe]

Texas Shooter's Former Classmates: He Was An Atheist, Mocked Believers

He was an Atheist per some who knew him.

So what? I'm somewhere between atheist and agnostic and wouldn't even BEGIN to think of doing something like this.

 

[S&W Fan]

Strange, i googled...
"Devin Patrick Kelley" NY TIMES
"Devin Patrick Kelley" CNN
"Devin Patrick Kelley" Washington post
"Devin Patrick Kelley" Fox news

and they all had stories about the murders.

But then i Googled...
"Stephen Willeford" NY TIMES
"Stephen Willeford" CNN
"Stephen Willeford" Washington post
"Stephen Willeford" Fox news

and ONLY Fox had the story!!!

I guess they dont want to publish any story of a GOOD GUY with a GUN!

LIES Through OMISSION!

An unlikely hero describes gun battle and 95 mph chase with Texas shooting suspect

 

[Cureforcancer]

So what? I'm somewhere between atheist and agnostic and wouldn't even BEGIN to think of doing something like this.

That’s great. No need to shoot the messenger though. Media looking for motives. My guess.

 

[GOPerfect]

Texas massacre bystander sprang into action after shooting, chasing suspect at 95 mph

 

[S&W Fan]

So what? I'm somewhere between atheist and agnostic and wouldn't even BEGIN to think of doing something like this.

It was pointed out as a possible contributing factor is all.

 

[freddy]

"Official report"? Lol.. That must be what your Masters say it is.

Apparently your master too if you follow the laws of their kingdom.

 

[freddy]

Go to the other thread and we'll talk about it there or create another one specific to Vegas. Reread all the posts and watch all the videos. Even the ones that contain official audio from air traffic control. If you have any specific questions, you can ask me there. There is no need to derail this one like you did the other.

Let's keep this one specific to the church shooting. As of now with this shooting, nothing appears to be out of the ordinary other than the scrubbing of social media accounts to conceal the shooter's motive and possible ties to an anti conservative group.

Enough already with the useless pictures, memes, gifs, and name calling that give no valuable insight and just serves the purpose of deflection and derailment for your own amusement.

Let the people here talk about the specific shooting involving the church.

Nothing I can find on that thread could possibly be construed as evidence. Well, except for here on this forum in the land of makebelieve.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Guy that killed the dirtball ran out of his house barefooted with his ar. His cousin said he is an avid shooter and the best shot he knows. He also said the shooter died in his truck and did not kill him shelf.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Nothing I can find on that thread could possibly be construed as evidence. Well, except for here on this forum in the land of makebelieve.

That's what I thought. You are incapable of going point by point and discussing it.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Guy that killed the dirtball ran out of his house barefooted with his ar. His cousin said he is an avid shooter and the best shot he knows. He also said the shooter died in his truck and did not kill him shelf.

Will we ever know the truth? I'm sure there are those who wouldn't want the public to know the criminal was killed by a law abiding armed citizen with an evil AR15.

 

[FrankenCub]

On a related thought, I'm just tired of hearing about all of these 'mass shootings'.. I know a lot of it is media hype, but I think we're only one major incident away from some sort of Executive Order.. I think Trump is way better than the alternative, but I still don't trust anyone. If I was into conspiracies (maybe I am, maybe I'm not), "they" hit an elementary school, then a casino/country concert, then churches.. basically all the targets that would cause even the most pro-gun voter to change their mind. Especially since I believe that a lot of the gun owners (at least in NY) are only hunters, and don't care about ARs/MSRs, and handguns besides revolvers.

Unfortunately I'm in the same boat, I don't trust anyone with our Rights, even Trump. If those in power so choose what's to stop them from not only banning MSRs, but also the parts to build/fix them? And of course 80% receivers going to be on the block too? Be pretty easy for them to follow paper trails to see who bought what a few years pre ban. I'd stock up on parts and a few 80% lowers if I weren't dirt poor.
I just don't see this going well for gun owners at all when the media as a whole are working against us and the rest of the population is blinded by the hype and lies.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Will we ever know the truth? I'm sure there are those who wouldn't want the public to know the criminal was killed by a law abiding armed citizen with an evil AR15.

CNN even interviewed the cousin of the good guy. They said he used an AR. I could see it pained them to say it.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Unfortunately I'm in the same boat, I don't trust anyone with our Rights, even Trump. If those in power so choose what's to stop them from not only banning MSRs, but also the parts to build/fix them? And of course 80% receivers going to be on the block too? Be pretty easy for them to follow paper trails to see who bought what a few years pre ban. I'd stock up on parts and a few 80% lowers if I weren't dirt poor.
I just don't see this going well for gun owners at all when the media as a whole are working against us and the rest of the population is blinded by the hype and lies.

I'm just waiting for Cuomo to ram another midnight bill through under speed of necessity.

You know he's refilling the ink on his pen now..




THANK GOD Hillary is not President right now

 

[Cureforcancer]

The Washington Post Just Ran A Completely Asinine Headline About The Texas Mass Shooting

WP blames Men and Guns.

 

[Cureforcancer]

 

[Darth]

The Myth that Religion is the #1 Cause of War | Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry

Actual quote from that link:

"Sin is the #1 cause of war and violence, not religion, and certainly not Christianity."

They set up the pitch with all these cherry picked, glaringly wrong stats, but then still swing and miss by a mile, with a line blaming "sin" which is an abstract concept created by, imagine that, the religious.

No True Scotsman - RationalWiki

The pedophile priests aren't real Christians.

Christian apologists being wrong. Whodathunk?

 

[Darth]

Texas Shooter's Former Classmates: He Was An Atheist, Mocked Believers

He was an Atheist per some who knew him.

Hmm, seems like a level headed individual. Wonder why he snapped.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Hmm, seems like a level headed individual. Wonder why he snapped.

What's funny about that?

He did the mocking. He mocked people for believing in God and he thought they were stupid. Then he goes and kills people in church.

I don't see the humor?

 

[Cureforcancer]

Hmm, seems like a level headed individual. Wonder why he snapped.

His mother in law apparently. I guess the p.o.s figured he would cause more pain on to her murdering almost her entire church than actually killing her.

 

[holdover]

Nothing I can find on that thread could possibly be construed as evidence. Well, except for here on this forum in the land of makebelieve.

Nothing? there are no facts to the case? How about what the police said? Dude , you have just the won the biggest bullshitter on the NYGF award. I got your number Freddy , your a bullshit artist. You never read or listened to a thing the police said. As I tried to tell you several times the police were looking into the possibility of other peoples involvement , the Sheriff said that on day 2 after the shooting If you knew anything about the case at all you would have known that. So if the police say they are looking at the possibility of others involved, and given the actual facts we do know its not unreasonable for a person to wonder if there were more people involved. Ignorance is dismissing it out of hand without knowing the facts like you did.

No, it doesn't prove bigfoot did it , it proves you dont know what your talking about if you didn't read or listen to the police reports.

 

[Darth]

What's funny about that?

He did the mocking. He mocked people for believing in God and he thought they were stupid. Then he goes and kills people in church.

I don't see the humor?

I don't see the connection between his lack of a belief in a God and this situation, but hey, back on page one people thought it was relevant.

The humor lies in that I happen to also have that same view. Just like I also drink water. Heiler also drank water.

Tl;dr all heil the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

 

[Darth]

His mother in law apparently. I guess the p.o.s figured he would cause more pain on to her murdering almost her entire church than actually killing her.

Poor move. What if she actually hated them, and he just made each upcoming Sunday that much easier for her?

 

[freddy]

Nothing? there are no facts to the case? How about what the police said? Dude , you have just the won the biggest bullshitter on the NYGF award. I got your number Freddy , your a bullshit artist. You never read or listened to a thing the police said. As I tried to tell you several times the police were looking into the possibility of other peoples involvement , the Sheriff said that on day 2 after the shooting If you knew anything about the case at all you would have known that. So if the police say they are looking at the possibility of others involved, and given the actual facts we do know its not unreasonable for a person to wonder if there were more people involved. Ignorance is dismissing it out of hand without knowing the facts like you did.

No, it doesn't prove bigfoot did it , it proves you dont know what your talking about if you didn't read or listen to the police reports.

 

[Robin]

Cherry pick something, take it out of context and declare yourself the winner. Your a winner alright.
Robin

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Will we ever know the truth? I'm sure there are those who wouldn't want the public to know the criminal was killed by a law abiding armed citizen with an evil AR15.

Funny you bring this up. Forgive me if it was mentioned earlier but I was listening to some radio station on the way to work and they made it a point to mention the shooter used a "Ruger" assault weapon. WTF? I honestly don't think I can tell you what make the Home Depot truck was from last week! Fucking objective reporting my ass.

 

[Celt]

Texas massacre bystander sprang into action after shooting, chasing suspect at 95 mph

Lets hope he doesn't get issued a speeding ticket. If he was New York I bet he would. Cuomo would make sure of it, along with throwing the two good guys in jail for pursuing the guy after he fled the scene.

 

[Darth]

Cherry pick something, take it out of context and declare yourself the winner. Your a winner alright.
Robin

*you're.

Ah yes, the "it's out of context" argument.

 

[GOPerfect]

They are now blaming the Air Force for not informing NICS of his conviction. If they would have given the information, this would not have happened.

So many that spew what they do not know. The Military does not work the same way civilian society does.

 

[Darth]

They are now blaming the Air Force for not informing NICS of his conviction. If they would have given the information, this would not have happened.

So many that spew what they do not know. The Military does not work the same way civilian society does.

Clearly. They create a bunch of sociopathic killing machines with PTSD and unleash them on the populace!

 

[Celt]

This one's not going to work that good for the antigunners since it was a good guy with a gun that helped ensure things did not continue.