Prepardness groups

[Celt]

Something we all need to think about, and start putting together.

Start small with people you trust. Get together as time permits to discuss preparedness scenarios and strategies. And build on it from there. Start developing plans to work as a group. Then step it up to doing some training and preparing together as a group. I'll expand on this more in the future but I wanted to get the discussion started. I think all over the state people should be putting together size two groups. Eventually we could try to get them under one large umbrella.

 

[carpediem]

It is hard to find people you would trust with your life and that of your family. I know plenty of people. Few, if any of those reach that level of trust. Sad really.

 

[GOPerfect]

My trust levels are not the greatest either. I have friends that are like minded. We share our knowledge and our insight among ourselves. I know their talents and they know mine.

I have ended more friendships because some people think "Wrong". As for groups, I'll just say this, I know who to get in touch with if all hell breaks loose!

 

[dsdmmat]

Most successful groups are going to be formed on family lines (tribes). There are only about 3 people outside of my family I trust with my life. They and their family are the only ones I would allow to get close enough to my "group."

 

[Celt]

For me family is a given. But i dont live close to family so trusting like minded friends is going to be a necessity.

A key question is in a wrol scenario will your friends pull the trigger to save your life?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

My trust levels are not the greatest either. I have friends that are like minded. We share our knowledge and our insight among ourselves. I know their talents and they know mine.

I have ended more friendships because some people think "Wrong". As for groups, I'll just say this, I know who to get in touch with if all hell breaks loose!

Can you explain a little more what you mean by they think wrong?

 

[Magnus]

Definitely a necessity! I fear that there might be bigger groups out there trying to steal from my family. I don't trust many people with my family.

 

[Catskillkid]

I've never exactly been the trusting sort. I can't help but think that everyone out there is looking for an angle of some sort. Fortunately or unfortunately, a few of my co-workers who know about my "hobby" and my family's property (aka my end of the world last stand compound...lol) have all said that when the SHTF they've coming to me. At least they'll be well armed.

 

[Celt]

In a wrol my close friends would become like a family, and im typically a great judge of character.

 

[Aimtite]

I think most people will resist to organize beyond a close circle like family, neighbors or best friends.
Isn't the large umbrella already there? Oathkeepers seem to work really well in emergency situations.
They have people with the training and the experience that is the hardest thing to acquire.

 

[FrankenCub]

Trust is a funny thing. Sometimes those who should be the ones you could trust are anything but. Come a SHTF event I could almost guarantee my wife and step son would get me killed if they were anywhere near a dangerous situation the same time as I. They are both extremely arrogant and wont shut the fuck up when confronted with any form of opposition. Really, what's one to do then, back into the shadows and let them reap what they've sown ? Go out in a blaze of glory and pile of empty brass trying to defend them ? Yeah, what a mess.
I've pretty much cut ties with most of my friends because our interests just don't align any more. They'd be happy partying and chilling and I no longer want anything to do with that.
Even online acquaintances can sometimes be trusted, after you've had conversations and discussions with those people for enough years you kinda get to know what kind of people they are. Some here I'd trust with my life, others I wouldn't trust with a keyboard lol.
Most of my blood family though, they could care less about the failure of society, a couple I know would be side by side emptying brass if needed.

 

[NirvanaFan]

This is something I've thought about. Most of my group would be family. 50 or 60 years ago, my grandparents gave land to their children as wedding presents if they wanted it. Therefore, we have a bunch of family all within a few miles of each other. Most of my family lives within 20 miles or so. There are another one or two people that I would trust enough to let into our group.

 

[MoMan]

This is really important. I've spoken to more than a couple of the LE guys I've met down here and they have all echoed the same thing. They said that if all hell breaks loose that we should keep in mind that their main objective will be to get home and take care of their Families. We have assembled a close group of like minded Folks down here who meet EVERY month to discuss our preparation status. We each have our "specialties" and report monthly on where we are with our agreed upon assignments. We limit our meetings to 1 hour to keep us focused! We are all gun Folks and get to the range a couple of times a month to stay sharp, and be sure we have our gear good to go.

We are VERY cautious on who gets invited into our little group, and if you do not bring a skill set that is needed, you will not get in. Most of us have involved our Spouses and they each bring different skills as well, such as farming, paracord items, etc. They also have agreed on assignments. Our plan for our November meeting is to have a "potluck" meal where each of us will prepare something from our SHTF stock, limited to just what we have put up, including heating, water, etc. This is something that EVERYONE needs to do at least once to be sure they have what is needed when it is needed.

MO

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

This is really important. I've spoken to more than a couple of the LE guys I've met down here and they have all echoed the same thing. They said that if all hell breaks loose that we should keep in mind that their main objective will be to get home and take care of their Families. We have assembled a close group of like minded Folks down here who meet EVERY month to discuss our preparation status. We each have our "specialties" and report monthly on where we are with our agreed upon assignments. We limit our meetings to 1 hour to keep us focused! We are all gun Folks and get to the range a couple of times a month to stay sharp, and be sure we have our gear good to go.

We are VERY cautious on who gets invited into our little group, and if you do not bring a skill set that is needed, you will not get in. Most of us have involved our Spouses and they each bring different skills as well, such as farming, paracord items, etc. They also have agreed on assignments. Our plan for our November meeting is to have a "potluck" meal where each of us will prepare something from our SHTF stock, limited to just what we have put up, including heating, water, etc. This is something that EVERYONE needs to do at least once to be sure they have what is needed when it is needed.

MO

Sounds like a great group.

How did you get past the initial forming stage to identify that the members are also interested in being prepared? It seems difficult to find like minded people



Do you guys in LE think it's a common mentality that When it goes down you guys will more or less be doing the same as everyone else and staying home to protect your family?

 

[MilesTeg]

Sounds like a great group.

How did you get past the initial forming stage to identify that the members are also interested in being prepared? It seems difficult to find like minded people



Do you guys in LE think it's a common mentality that When it goes down you guys will more or less be doing the same as everyone else and staying home to protect your family?

I think it depends how fast and how bad it goes down. If it's a slow descent I can see them trying to maintain order. If this happens I can see them getting more aggressive/violent as more order slips away.

 

[MoMan]

Sounds like a great group.

How did you get past the initial forming stage to identify that the members are also interested in being prepared? It seems difficult to find like minded people



Do you guys in LE think it's a common mentality that When it goes down you guys will more or less be doing the same as everyone else and staying home to protect your family?

I'm not sure exactly how the initial group was formed. I was invited in after being down here for about 6 months and forging some pretty strong bonds with Folks.

 

[GOPerfect]

Can you explain a little more what you mean by they think wrong?

A bit of resurrection of a thread, I just saw this reply/question. Thinking"wrong" kind of means if others do not see the majority as I do, I have very little use for them.

 

[FrankenCub]

Some of those "wrong" thinking types can really raise havoc within a group if not booted. The group I associate with is good about not allowing certain types in thankfully. Just before I joined in with them they did have one problem child though, a real whacko. To the point that had they not booted him when they did he could have caused some serious legal damage to everyone else. He was being watched by the FBI and no one knew until other members had gotten visits from investigators about the guy. Thankfully for them they could prove they weren't connected with him other than the short period before they told him never to return again.
Really gotta be careful who you associate with.

 

[Celt]

Ive been a terrible slacker in this regard. Work and family just takes up ALL my time. Im lucky (when my shoulder feels good) that i can go to my man cave to lift weights for an hour 4 days a week. As my kids get older i hope to have more time to work on a prepardness group.

Although, with having trump as pres i feel a lower sense of urgency (that shouldnt be an excuse).

 

[MoMan]

We did have 2 fellas that had to be uninvited. I'm not going to go into details here, other than to say their actions could have probably caused us all a bunch of troubles. They formed their own group, which fell under the close eye of LE.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Ive been a terrible slacker in this regard. Work and family just takes up ALL my time. Im lucky (when my shoulder feels good) that i can go to my man cave to lift weights for an hour 4 days a week. As my kids get older i hope to have more time to work on a prepardness group.

Although, with having trump as pres i feel a lower sense of urgency (that shouldnt be an excuse).

This sounds so much like my situation. Im in the same boat as you are

 

[livingston]

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This is perhaps a place to meet like minded folks . Perhaps not in the gun area ... but prepping in general. Sharing ideas what food stuffs to purchase ... Clothing that works . Things like this. Get around an unknown group in the gun area could be a problem . .. As mentioned above ... Some loose cannon and all of the sudden one belongs to the "Weatherman redux " in the eyes of the FBI ... Then the entire group get put on that "watch list "..... Meaning ... No guns for you .. For all one knows that loose cannon could be a FBI agent that was sent in to " permanently disarm groups of people . Without firing a shot. ... Drop hundreds of agents out in the field doing the same thing and the numbers grow fast. ... And that watch list the liberals adore keeps on giving for them ... Disarming a certain group of the population. .... Guilt by association. ... One person has a bit of tannerite another fertilizer for the garden and a DA will be making the case that another Vegas situation was just around the corner. ... A bit sad that I think like this . but my mind harks back to this ...
LaVoy Finicum shooting: Indictment of agent 'devastating' for FBI
The indictment of W. Joseph Astarita, 40, of New York casts a shadow on the highly trained team.

"The Hostage Rescue Team is among the most elite units in the bureau and the idea that someone could be engaged in a firearm discharge in such a high-profile case and then allegedly withhold information is an extraordinary and serious charge," said Brian Levin, a former New York Police officer who has worked closely with the FBI and now is director of California State University's Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism. "It's extraordinarily disappointing."
..LaVoy .... A man killed for no reason. Perhaps .. Perhaps the reason was to put the fear of god in every like minded folk in America. Take a look at that Waco bike shootout.. Same thing ...

 

[livingston]

Borrowed this from the political forum .....