Hey TRUMP - it ain't NEGOTIATING if you get NOTHING BACK !!!!

[CaseHardened]

I'm a major Trump-Guy, but WTF.

Are you planning to totally get ass-f*cked by the DEMS on Gun Control, with NOTHING in return ?

For shit sake, at least demand NATIONAL RECRIPOCRACY !!

PISSED

 

[Mosinitis]

Who says he wants this bill to pass.

 

[Darth]

@Dr. Evil, we need the cake analogy!

 

[Dr. Evil]

@Dr. Evil, we need the cake analogy!

Don't tell @Willjr75. He HATES it.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Don't tell @Willjr75. He HATES it.

Let's say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with "GUN RIGHTS" written across the top in lovely floral icing. I received it from the 2nd amendment and the Dick act of 1902.



Along you come and say, "Give me that cake." I say, "No, it's my cake." You say, "Let's compromise. Give me half." I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.


Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.


There I am with my half of the cake, and you walk back up and say, "Give me that cake."


I say, "No, it's my cake."


You say, "Let's compromise." What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what's left of the cake I already own.


So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 -- and I'm left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.


And I'm sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.


You say, "Let's compromise once more." What do I get out of this compromise? I get to keep one eighth of what's left of the cake I already own?


So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Machine gun ban of 1986 -- and I'm left holding what is now just an eighth of my cake.



I sit back in the corner with just my eighth of cake that I once owned outright and completely, I glance up and here you come once more.


You say nothing and just grab my cake; This time you take several bites -- we'll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders -- and I'm left with about a tenth of what has always been MY DAMN CAKE and you've got nine-tenths of it.


Then we compromised with the Lautenberg Act (nibble, nibble), the HUD/Smith and Wesson agreement (nibble, nibble), the Brady Law (NOM NOM NOM), the School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act (sweet tap-dancing Freyja, my finger!)


I'm left holding crumbs of what was once a large and satisfying cake, and you're standing there with most of MY CAKE, making anime eyes and whining about being "reasonable", and wondering "why we won't compromise".



I'm done with being reasonable, and I'm done with compromise. Nothing about gun control in this country has ever been "reasonable" nor a genuine "compromise".

 

[Dr. Evil]

Let's say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with "GUN RIGHTS" written across the top in lovely floral icing. I received it from the 2nd amendment and the Dick act of 1902.



Along you come and say, "Give me that cake." I say, "No, it's my cake." You say, "Let's compromise. Give me half." I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.


Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.


There I am with my half of the cake, and you walk back up and say, "Give me that cake."


I say, "No, it's my cake."


You say, "Let's compromise." What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what's left of the cake I already own.


So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 -- and I'm left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.


And I'm sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.


You say, "Let's compromise once more." What do I get out of this compromise? I get to keep one eighth of what's left of the cake I already own?


So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Machine gun ban of 1986 -- and I'm left holding what is now just an eighth of my cake.



I sit back in the corner with just my eighth of cake that I once owned outright and completely, I glance up and here you come once more.


You say nothing and just grab my cake; This time you take several bites -- we'll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders -- and I'm left with about a tenth of what has always been MY DAMN CAKE and you've got nine-tenths of it.


Then we compromised with the Lautenberg Act (nibble, nibble), the HUD/Smith and Wesson agreement (nibble, nibble), the Brady Law (NOM NOM NOM), the School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act (sweet tap-dancing Freyja, my finger!)


I'm left holding crumbs of what was once a large and satisfying cake, and you're standing there with most of MY CAKE, making anime eyes and whining about being "reasonable", and wondering "why we won't compromise".



I'm done with being reasonable, and I'm done with compromise. Nothing about gun control in this country has ever been "reasonable" nor a genuine "compromise".

 

[Shadow2]

"For shit sake, at least demand NATIONAL RECIPROCITY !!"

PREACH ON MY BROTHA ... CAN I GET AN AMEN!

 

[Podmonkey]

Cake and compromise huh?

 

[spat]

Maybe his plan is to get the Dems to load up the bill with so much crap that there is no way it will pass so he doesn't have to veto it.




Ok, maybe I'm reaching a bit, but I have to hold on to some kind of optimism.....

 

[libertysnake]

Let's say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with "GUN RIGHTS" written across the top in lovely floral icing. I received it from the 2nd amendment and the Dick act of 1902.



Along you come and say, "Give me that cake." I say, "No, it's my cake." You say, "Let's compromise. Give me half." I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.


Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.


There I am with my half of the cake, and you walk back up and say, "Give me that cake."


I say, "No, it's my cake."


You say, "Let's compromise." What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what's left of the cake I already own.


So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 -- and I'm left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.


And I'm sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.


You say, "Let's compromise once more." What do I get out of this compromise? I get to keep one eighth of what's left of the cake I already own?


So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Machine gun ban of 1986 -- and I'm left holding what is now just an eighth of my cake.



I sit back in the corner with just my eighth of cake that I once owned outright and completely, I glance up and here you come once more.


You say nothing and just grab my cake; This time you take several bites -- we'll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders -- and I'm left with about a tenth of what has always been MY DAMN CAKE and you've got nine-tenths of it.


Then we compromised with the Lautenberg Act (nibble, nibble), the HUD/Smith and Wesson agreement (nibble, nibble), the Brady Law (NOM NOM NOM), the School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act (sweet tap-dancing Freyja, my finger!)


I'm left holding crumbs of what was once a large and satisfying cake, and you're standing there with most of MY CAKE, making anime eyes and whining about being "reasonable", and wondering "why we won't compromise".



I'm done with being reasonable, and I'm done with compromise. Nothing about gun control in this country has ever been "reasonable" nor a genuine "compromise".

Sort of reminds me of this, even though it's not really a full analogy:

 

[GOPerfect]

 

[CaseHardened]

Maybe his plan is to get the Dems to load up the bill with so much crap that there is no way it will pass so he doesn't have to veto it.




Ok, maybe I'm reaching a bit, but I have to hold on to some kind of optimism.....

That's probably it.

After all, President Trump called their bluff on DACA (so far).

I certainly would trade a BUMP STOCK BAN for NATIONAL RECRIPOCRACY, tho.

 

[libertysnake]

It's very simple. If he doesn't reverse course, he's losing a lot of conservatives next election cycle. Maybe. Depends on which Pocahontas the libs are running on their side of things.

 

[CaseHardened]

It's very simple. If he doesn't reverse course, he's losing a lot of conservatives next election cycle. Maybe. Depends on which Pocahontas the libs are running on their side of things.

President Trump may be outsmarting Democrats, but he's also outsmarting ME.

 

[libertysnake]

President Trump may be outsmarting Democrats, but he's also outsmarting ME.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The suspense is KILLING ME!

 

[Marine Cpl]

Trump doesn't really want gun control, NRA lobbyist says after meeting

 

[libertysnake]

Trump doesn't really want gun control, NRA lobbyist says after meeting

That's funny coming from the organization that bends over and takes it each time there's a gun debate.

 

[M_F]

When Trump was a democrat he supported the Clinton AW ban and a waiting period on purchases.

 

[Saltwater60]

President Trump may be outsmarting Democrats, but he's also outsmarting ME.

He’s not outsmarting anyone. He is impulsive and shoots his mouth off. He’s being foolish. If he passes any gun control his approval ratings will drop to about 20% and no chance in hell of getting re-elected. He will never win the liberals over no matter what and he will loose the conservatives if he passes guns control.

In my mind the damage is already done. He signaled he’s open to passing gun laws and possibly a ban. He’s also open to illegal seizure of weapons. This just encourages and solidify atheism attacks on the 2 nd amendment. It will not end. He fanned the flames and the constitution is burning. There is no turning back at this point.

 

[MoMan]

I've been a staunch Trump supporter, but this REALLY concerns me. He needs to not open his mouth until he at least engages his brain a bit. I was 1 of those fools who always figured he was outsmarting the left on each move he was making. But, this 1 scares the hell out of me. He needs to just push those fuckers back, and tell them; "we ARE NOT tearing down the 2A during my Presidency"! That's all I want to hear come out of his mouth at this point. He started this, now he has to figure out how he intends to fix it.!!

 

[Sponty]

Funny how during the primaries and the election when I pointed out his past record of being a democrat and supporting gun control among other leftist leanings I got called a Hillary supporter, a liberal, and juanjo (or whatever that scumbags name was) by you people. You Trumptards wanted this idiot and now we all get to deal with it.

 

[Mosinitis]

Only idiots take everything in politics at face value.

 

[Darth]

Funny how during the primaries and the election when I pointed out his past record of being a democrat and supporting gun control among other leftist leanings I got called a Hillary supporter, a liberal, and juanjo (or whatever that scumbags name was) by you people. You Trumptards wanted this idiot and now we all get to deal with it.

Welcome to the club.

 

[GOPerfect]

It is funny how many Bills and Executive Orders here has signed in the past couple of weeks.

My God, he really gutted the hell out of our 2A!

 

[SmallGameAddict]

Truthfully, I see a lot of defeatist attitudes on the forum. 'Gun control' has been a hot topic for decades, but still you can walk into a gun shop and buy a firearm. Yep, most states other than New York have more choices on which firearm you can purchase. The fact remains you can still walk in and buy one, because you're an American citizen and it's your right. That took like-minded voters, who actually took time to go to the polls. That took voters who actually contacted their legislators with their opinions on various legislation. It was not and will NEVER be easy to defend that right. It takes work and long term dedication to the cause. No law says you have to vote. But it's your right, and if you don't, you're not helping the cause. Writing your legislators with your opinions is also exercising a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Sitting around waiting for SCOTUS to rule that the entire US is now Constitutional carry ain't cuttin' the mustard.

 

[Magnus]

Let's say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with "GUN RIGHTS" written across the top in lovely floral icing. I received it from the 2nd amendment and the Dick act of 1902.



Along you come and say, "Give me that cake." I say, "No, it's my cake." You say, "Let's compromise. Give me half." I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.


Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.


There I am with my half of the cake, and you walk back up and say, "Give me that cake."


I say, "No, it's my cake."


You say, "Let's compromise." What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what's left of the cake I already own.


So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 -- and I'm left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.


And I'm sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.


You say, "Let's compromise once more." What do I get out of this compromise? I get to keep one eighth of what's left of the cake I already own?


So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Machine gun ban of 1986 -- and I'm left holding what is now just an eighth of my cake.



I sit back in the corner with just my eighth of cake that I once owned outright and completely, I glance up and here you come once more.


You say nothing and just grab my cake; This time you take several bites -- we'll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders -- and I'm left with about a tenth of what has always been MY DAMN CAKE and you've got nine-tenths of it.


Then we compromised with the Lautenberg Act (nibble, nibble), the HUD/Smith and Wesson agreement (nibble, nibble), the Brady Law (NOM NOM NOM), the School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act (sweet tap-dancing Freyja, my finger!)


I'm left holding crumbs of what was once a large and satisfying cake, and you're standing there with most of MY CAKE, making anime eyes and whining about being "reasonable", and wondering "why we won't compromise".



I'm done with being reasonable, and I'm done with compromise. Nothing about gun control in this country has ever been "reasonable" nor a genuine "compromise".

At least they’re not taking your guns, just your cake. Those suckers.

 

[Robin]

Only time will tell who has fell and who's been left behind..............
B.D.
Robin

 

[BDinPutnam]

Welcome to the club.

I believe my membership in this club is still in good standing as well.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

It is funny how many Bills and Executive Orders here has signed in the past couple of weeks.

My God, he really gutted the hell out of our 2A!

A bit of sensationalism isn't it?

Truthfully, I see a lot of defeatist attitudes on the forum. 'Gun control' has been a hot topic for decades, but still you can walk into a gun shop and buy a firearm. Yep, most states other than New York have more choices on which firearm you can purchase. The fact remains you can still walk in and buy one, because you're an American citizen and it's your right.

It's hard to think outside of your state when it's one as shitty as NY. It kind of sucks you into it's vortex of negativity. Outside of NY it's a whole different world unless it's another communist haven. Thankfully free states still outnumber the combloc states.