Another SCOPE Chapter Bites the Dust
- Thread starter Deplorable Me
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I know that. I highly doubt that gun owners here will choose the path of killing cops.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Was at the meeting of CNY S.C.O.P.E. where the vote was taken to disband. Couldn’t vote as I was no longer a S.C.O.P.E. member in good standing.
Bill writes a pretty good letter doesn’t he??
Bill writes a pretty good letter doesn’t he??
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Only if they choose to be on the wrong side of the Constitution.
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
Atta boy Rambo !
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
The first time LEO comes for the guns they will kill your dogs, kick you to floor in front of your family and steal your firearms.
The second time LEO comes for the guns they will find nobody home and no firearms.
The third time LEO comes for the guns they will find nobody home and no firearms. At the end of their shift they will return home and find their dogs dead their house burned and their family missing.
Will they continue to do the bidding of their political masters??? Don’t think so!
The second time LEO comes for the guns they will find nobody home and no firearms.
The third time LEO comes for the guns they will find nobody home and no firearms. At the end of their shift they will return home and find their dogs dead their house burned and their family missing.
Will they continue to do the bidding of their political masters??? Don’t think so!
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
That day may come but we are a long way from insurrection right now. Fo now, this is the recorse that we have. It’s better than sitting on the sidelines and doing nothing. I for one am damn tired of the coattail riders.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
You're kidding, right?
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
If it comes to that, I'd rather have tried to prevent it and failed than to have rationalized away my laziness (or is it cowardice?) by prematurely accepting defeat.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
If politicians want to make laws confiscating our property then they should come to our doors and do their own bidding. If LEO wants to perform this task then for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It isn't going to be LEO's coming for guns. That's not what I meant. What I meant was that in order to take back your rights you have to take out politicians and those who protect them which happen to be cops. That isn't happening.
They'll legislate slowly. First Semi autos. You'll be mad but you aren't going to go around killing anybody. Then you'll die of natural causes and then it'll be bolt guns.
Rinse and repeat.
They'll legislate slowly. First Semi autos. You'll be mad but you aren't going to go around killing anybody. Then you'll die of natural causes and then it'll be bolt guns.
Rinse and repeat.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
You are right. Actuarially I have 16 years to live. Alas, poor thirty year olds!
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You can only ride coattails if the person you latch on to is actually doing something.
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
You can rest assured that I am doing something almost daily.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That's great! Hopefully it stops all gun control in it's tracks and I'm proven wrong. I doubt it though. But again, I hope I'm dead wrong. I have a hard time believing that Chucky or anyone like him will listen. Their minds aren't changing.
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Right. Just stay on the couch and let someone else handle it.
Its not about changing Schmucky Schumer's mind. Its about educating those who either don't have a clue or are on the fence. You don't fight on one front, you fight on all fronts. You bug the politicians, you take a coworker to the range, you write letter and make phone-calls, you make sure your friends register to vote and make it to the polls, you talk to your friends, neighbors and coworkers.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Please! Do you know how many times I've called Skelos's office and emailed him? And he was a so called republican.
In the end it is about changing Chucky's mind whether you agree with that or not. He's the one that's going to vote on it. They don't follow what their constituents want. I've taken 2 co-workers from the city shooting. Guess what? They still vote Democrat for other reasons. Some on this very forum do too. Republicans voted for the safe act.
Don't give me that nonsense that I'm sitting on the sidelines. I've done it and realized it gets you nowhere. Maybe someday, you will too. The rest of the country is pro gun. Yet states keep falling. Why? Why hasn't the Supreme Court ruled on this yet? Why hasn't the republican Congress passed anything? Why hasn't Trump recinded executive orders on gun control? Why haven't republican counties in our state gotten to get rid of restricted licenses when their constituents are mainly republican?
I know you know what I write here is correct. You still hold on to hope however. I'm done. I'm a realist. If you feel like wasting your time, that's fine. It doesn't hurt me any. But don't push me to waste my time. It's a done deal and gun control is already in the works.
No amount of talking to anyone here in this state is going to convince a Circuit Court judge to rule justly to get rid of the safe act. No amount of talking to anyone here in this state is going to stop a senator from California on voting yes and sending a gun control bill to a Democrat President's desk when he or she is in power. And no amount of talking is going to make the media honest. Once you come to grips with that, you'll see things a little clearer.
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
You realize this is a fight that will never end, right?
Even if the NFA, GCA, un-SAFE law and every other piece of anti-gun legislation went away today, we'd still have to fight to keep the antis at bay. They're not going to go away, so we can't stop either.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I know what has to be done but realistically, I know it isn't going to happen. And it isn't writing a congressman or educating a liberal in NYS.
Writing and talking isn't fighting.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Writing and talking is the fight now.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I can't argue with that if that's how it's seen by some.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
If you've got any ideas for a better way to improve things - besides the take out politicians/kidnap cops/revolution nonsense - I'd love to hear it.
I'm not ready to give up.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
There aren't any. They will do and vote as they see fit.
This is funny.
So many unwilling participants. No wonder the Country is lost!
So many unwilling participants. No wonder the Country is lost!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No it's lost because politicians and judges refuse to support and defend the Constitution. They don't care what the people that they represent want. All they care about is power.
But who knows. Maybe you are right and one phone call from me to Schumer and Gillebrand will change everything.
When should I call? Morning or evening? What time do you normally call Judge Skretney? Afternoons?
Please! Whatever happened to that politician you said you were going to have dinner with? Hope much longer did he say that we will have to endure the safe act?
Actually, the dinner went well. I am meeting up again in a couple of weeks.
Some do and others do not.
Some think that a shoot out with the Police, Politicians and Judges is the answer. I do not. I will continue down my path and people of your thinking can plan all the attacks.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Says the guy who once told the forum to sit back and watch the show insinuating that violence was coming.
Ok. Let me know when the safe act is about to be over after he lets you know.
Ok. Let me know when the safe act is about to be over after he lets you know.
I do not care about the SAFE Act. None at all. It is going to be a cold day in hell that that goes away. My goal is too assist in slowing down what is coming.
BTW, I do not insinuate anything. I say what what I mean, if you perceive my meanings incorrectly, that is on you.
I guess overall, I am tired of listening to gun owners bitching and complaining all the while doing nothing to better things.
Off to work. Have a great day Will.