ATF just lost their case , charging a man with a pistol + brace = SBR

[Jezman]

ATF Prosecutes Ohio Man for AR Pistol with Brace

Luckily there was a happy ending to the saga, with the jury returning a not guilty verdict after a short deliberation. The most alarming part of this indictment is that the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of Ohio even sought to prosecute the case. The [Prince Law Offices blog] (ATF Unhinged: Prosecutions Made Up Out of Whole Cloth – You Might Be Next…) went as to far as saying the U.S. Attorney’s Office invented the charges ‘out of whole cloth,’ completely fabricating the entire basis for the case.

 

[Marine Cpl]

@Dayten . Any inside information?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Glad it worked out. This is a classic example of why regulatory agencies should, for the most part go. Congress makes the law, not them.

 

[Shadow2]

I didn't for a single person on the ATF they don't make my laws. And when i mean vote i mean vote and win. If the representative i voted for to represent me doesn't win then i am not represented period!

 

[Shadow2]

Why can't a jury say it could be a shoulder stock and the people find it OK to own an SB without paying a tax for it.

 

[Shadow2]

oops

 

[BDinPutnam]

Uhhh....

 

[Acer-m14]

what if you want to be silly and put your 1911 or Glock what ever grip on your shoulder to shoot .. .. you would really look silly thats for sure ..
OMG u just shouldered it .. its a SBR now ..

height , with , length , pounds , black plastic ... WTF .. is not the LEAD/Copper at xxx FPS the real danger LMAO ..

 

[Marine Cpl]

Or what if you shoot your rifle one handed in a state like this one where you need a license to keep and carry a pistol?

 

[Podmonkey]

I decided a long time ago that I ain't coming peacefully if some government whore tries to do me on some bullshit like this.

 

[WileyX585]

Rose's are red
Violets are blue
Don't buy a pistol brace
Cuz the ATF will screw you

 

[knuts]

here is the "SBR" in question... wtf!

 

[SomeSoldier]

Wtf is that??

 

[Jem45472]

Wtf is that??

It's @SteyrAug mall ninja clearing pistol.

 

[togmaster]

here is the "SBR" in question... wtf!View attachment 35597

That mag well is sick.

 

[FrankenCub]

That mag well is sick.

Spikes....The Jack

 

[ArmedCorgi]

here is the "SBR" in question... wtf!View attachment 35597

 

[Marine Cpl]

Looks like he took off the brace part that goes on the arm and made his own angled fore grip.

 

[BlackDragon]

wtf is all that crap, that thing looks like a friggin erector set...

 

[Airborneguy]

That’s one of the ugliest guns I have ever seen!

 

[usamerican]

If you can be charged and taken to trial with 12 random community members screened for their ignorance left to decide whether or not the pistol + shoulder brace is illegal and you will go to prison, that tells me all I need to know about whether it's legal enough for me.

A jury decision on a matter of fact is not a binding legal precedent against future prosecutions.

FFL tried to sell me a brace for a Shockwave. "No thank you!" I'll stick to my 18.5" barrel for the buttstock.

Edit: The ATF "approval" letter is a mess. I don't want to dissect an "analytical framework" to determine whether a gun is felonious under federal law in a state like New York. What a jury does with that "analytical framework" is a real roll of the dice in some of the communities we may find ourselves in (and federal jury pools can come from a very wide territory).

 

[Shadow2]

"There are many like it but this one is mine" NO SIR! Thats a one off and its all you!

 

[SteyrAug]

It's @SteyrAug mall ninja clearing pistol.

Obviously something you CUMO slaves cannot be trusted with !

 

[Cleck]

This gun is the equivalent of buying all the cheap crap at Auto Zone and slapping it on your car, holy shit.