dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Good, I hope this passes. The only was we're ever going to get any help in NY from the rest of free America is when they get the same laws as us.. Let's get this show on the road to SCOTUS once and for all.
H.R. 7115
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Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
(1) A firearm receiver casting or firearm receiver blank or unfinished handgun frame that—
(A) at the point of sale does not meet the definition of a firearm in section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code; and
(B) after purchase by a consumer, can be completed by the consumer to the point at which such casting or blank functions as a firearm frame or receiver for a semiautomatic assault weapon or machinegun or the frame of a handgun.
(A) at the point of sale does not meet the definition of a firearm in section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code; and
(B) after purchase by a consumer, can be completed by the consumer to the point at which such casting or blank functions as a firearm frame or receiver for a semiautomatic assault weapon or machinegun or the frame of a handgun.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
It's a leap of faith, but yeah.
Bozo
.45 acp
5 years for possessing an unmilled 80% receiver without a serial number on it, or even a single piece from a parts-kit? It's not about getting this one passed, though that would be a bonus. If about normalizing terminology - "Semiautomatic Assault Weapon" is now any semiautomatic rifle or shotgun. Even if the rest of the crap is tossed by a court, they have their definition and will build upon it.
Cali already has the serial number requirement. It is certainly coming here at the start of the next state legislative session, even if this federal bill goes nowhere.
Cali already has the serial number requirement. It is certainly coming here at the start of the next state legislative session, even if this federal bill goes nowhere.
Bcs guy
.40 S&W
jimc
.223 Rem
Unless, I'm reading this wrong, it looks to me like they have redefined 'Assault weapon' to be ANY semiautomatic rifle or shotgun with a detachable magazine.
(4) the term “semiautomatic assault weapon” means—
(A) a semiautomatic rifle or semiautomatic shotgun that has the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device; or
(B) a semiautomatic pistol that has—
(i) the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device; and
(ii) any one of the features described in subsection (b);
(4) the term “semiautomatic assault weapon” means—
(A) a semiautomatic rifle or semiautomatic shotgun that has the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device; or
(B) a semiautomatic pistol that has—
(i) the capacity to accept a detachable ammunition feeding device; and
(ii) any one of the features described in subsection (b);
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
My bad, I missed this.
Yes that verbiage calls for retroactive ban of currently-legal and possessed un-serialized guns. I still do not see that this bans 80% unfinished lowers, but a finished lower without a serial would be illegal under this. Could be mighty tricky for them to prove you had one, of course.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Of course. Dems would be pretty much content if we adopted European or Australian gun laws. De Facto ban on hand guns, you can have a bolt gun for hunting, and you can have a break action shotgun for trap. And even then mandatory training, etc.
In the next 2-4 years you will see a hard attempt (possibly accomplished) Canadian or Australian gun laws
Hell, that's coming to NYS in January. Coumo is running for president, and wants Gun-Confiscation for his 2020 campaign ads. Buy what you want now, because soon you won't!
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It will be a slow erosion until dems have another president plus at least one half of congress. If they get both halves you can just forget it. Sell your shit, it's over. SCOTUS will only be a stop gap if it ever does another gun case, because I absolutely do not put it past the democrats to eventually aim for 60 votes and repeal the 2nd amendment. You are 100% going to see more people talking about how it should be repealed in coming years.
I made another order today at palmetto.
Republicans roll when it comes to gun control votes. The last 2 years we even saw a number of them co-sponsor some bills.
The house is controlled by the Democrats, all of them will vote yes on any gun control bill, some Republicans will as well.
The Senate will end up voting as well something will get through, Trump will sign anything that is on his desk. As long as he gets to put his name on paper.
In 2 years probably lose the Senate as well, and wouldn't be suprising if trump loses to a Democrat. That is when you will see full on Australian style gun turn in, followed by if we are lucky Canadian style gun laws
The house is controlled by the Democrats, all of them will vote yes on any gun control bill, some Republicans will as well.
The Senate will end up voting as well something will get through, Trump will sign anything that is on his desk. As long as he gets to put his name on paper.
In 2 years probably lose the Senate as well, and wouldn't be suprising if trump loses to a Democrat. That is when you will see full on Australian style gun turn in, followed by if we are lucky Canadian style gun laws
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
It would take an amendment proposal (approved by 2/3 of congress or an article V convention of states) that is ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures. So, any 13 states could block such a repeal.
Yes, so more than jusr 60 votes
spat
.950 JDJ
How many votes does it take to just ignore one ?
Ignore what?
spat
.950 JDJ
A constitutional amendment.
They will never repeal the 2A, just redefine it to mean the the national guard exists. I.e. they will just ignore it.
They were saying they would repeal the amendment. It takes more than just 60 votes
spat
.950 JDJ
And my point was that they will never go through the effort of actually repealing it, they will just ignore it instead.
As they already have been
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And Scotus will allow it by not taking gun cases.
Dammit @spat we arent supposed to agree on shit
-_- that's not how any of this has worked in the past .... dont upset the balance
@thewheels
.308 Win
Another TINVOWOOT epiphany.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
From the text...
Yes, this will include 80% receivers. It's what the bill is all about.
That_FNG
.308 Win
Like the gun laws of Malta? That allow collectors to acquire new production machine guns? I’m in
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I'm pretty sure that not only does it take 2/3 of congress, but it must also be ratified by 2/3 of the states. The other way is the states convention which bypasses the federal government entirely.
Proposing an amendment, which is what a repeal would be, another amendment to the constitution, is not easily done. While the dems may try their darndest to do this, there are still way more gun friendly states than non and if a proposed repeal amendment didn't wake up the mouth breathing fudds, then they don't actually have a pulse.
Constitutional Amendment Process
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Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
What about a 70% lower though? Or a 60%? Or a block of aluminum the right size?
I’m being serious btw. A consumer can turn a rectangle of aluminum into a lower. Will that be legal; what if a company only sells jigs to mill these from scratch?
They are opening a can of worms banning materials and pre-guns.
The hell is all this about anyway. Most crims are too dumb to build a gun and ghost guns are hardly ever used in crime.