Gillibrand: Give Social Security to illegal immigrants

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Gillibrand: Give Social Security to illegal immigrants
Democratic presidential candidate Kirstin Gillibrand wants to expand Social Security to people living in the United States illegally.


"First, we need comprehensive immigration reform," the 2020 hopeful and New York senator said during a campaign stop in Davenport, Iowa. "If you are in this country now you must have the right to pay into Social Security, to pay your taxes, to pay into the local school system and to have a pathway to citizenship. That must happen."
Gillibrand's comments are striking given her past as an immigration hawk. In 2009, the New York senator voted to increase funding for ICE and once said she believed English should be the official language of the United States.

Under current U.S. law, only legal immigrants are entitled to Social Security benefits after paying into the program for the requisite amount of time.

According to a 2010 analysis by the Social Security Administration's Office of Retirement and Disability Policy, the program's trust fund is expected to be exhausted by 2037. Social Security either has or is expected to soon begin paying out more in benefits than it earns in revenues.

Gillibrand is currently near the bottom of the Democratic pack in most primary polls nationally.

[Related: Second top Gillibrand aide quit over sexual harassment but was kept on staff]

During a televised town hall event with MSNBC's Chris Hayes on Monday, Gillibrand solidified her reversal on the issue of immigration, telling the audience that "there is no such thing as an illegal human" and said immigrant was not "a security issue."

"Because the truth is, everyone knows that diversity is a strength no matter where you go in this country, because they see it. So I would just remind them about why immigration — and our story as Americans — shows that our strongest and best moments are when we welcomed immigrants and our lowest and darkest moments are when we did not, and remind people how important immigration is," Gillibrand said.



Gillibrand: Give Social Security to illegal immigrants

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Cunt.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Well why not just hand em all ATM cards with access to my checking, savings, IRA, 401k, the whole enchilada? Might as well, we hand out everything else?

Next time she decides to open her cock holster, someone toss that pile of shit back in that keeps flying out.

 

[masterswimmer]

These are exactly the policies we need to see those extremists espouse during their campaign. I believe with all my being that people will again vote not only who they want in office but also against who they absolutely don't want in office.

 

[Blimey]

These are exactly the policies we need to see those extremists espouse during their campaign. I believe with all my being that people will again vote not only who they want in office but also against who they absolutely don't want in office.

I agree in principle but I really want the dems to double down on this stuff. We can't go socialist lite. We need these dems to go full retard in 2020 to ensure just enough people vote against them.

 

[dubleuhb]

Eat shit and die scum.

We're a long ways from primaries, by the time we get there who knows what they'll be offering these illegal trash.

Only thing they deserve is to be marched to the border and kicked out on there ass.

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[masterswimmer]

I agree in principle but I really want the dems to double down on this stuff. We can't go socialist lite. We need these dems to go full retard in 2020 to ensure just enough people vote against them.

Exactly my point. Hell, SS is scheduled to fail in 2037 with 'only' paying benefits to legal citizens who contributed. Add the illegals to the payroll and benefits will be compromised that much sooner. That's seriously radical! Hope it opens the eyes of moderates.

 

[GOPerfect]

Cunt.

CUNT

 

[Blimey]

Exactly my point. Hell, SS is scheduled to fail in 2037 with 'only' paying benefits to legal citizens who contributed. Add the illegals to the payroll and benefits will be compromised that much sooner. That's seriously radical! Hope it opens the eyes of moderates.

I truly believe that the republican party has moved far less than dems in recent times. The latter has been subjugated by a minority of total nutters, and I'm afraid that a large number of democrats who generally do not pay attention to politics do not yet realize what their party stands for. Hopefully there can be enough reminding of it in 2020. The republicans have trump who's out there, but the democratic ranks are full of them and that's the difference.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Never seen so much shit thrown at a wall and none sticks. Keep it coming.....political suicide

 

[Jsmegs77]

That’s not a winning position to take in the Midwest. Pretty sure Iowa wasn’t exactly a Democratic stronghold last election cycle.


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[ArmedCorgi]

CUNT

My bad.

 

[Bigfoot]

Buying votes, That's what the Democrats do...

That's all they have... Well that and orange man bad, literally Hitler.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Fuck you gillibrand. Stop giving out my tax nonem to non citizens.

 

[Burzum]

This 2020 election is the canary in the coalmine, if the Democratic-Bolsheviks pull this plan off to:
-Open the border,
-pack the Court,
-gut the 2nd Am.,
-work to abolish the Electoral College,
-consider reparations for slavery,
-destroy healthcare as you know it,
-expand the safety nets beyond capacity,
-grant free college,
-continue to attack, whites, Christians, and Israel,

Then the Republic will be done.

 

[Deplorable Me]

If Silly Gilly is so concerned about illegal immigrants and their financial woes, why doesn't she board them at her residence, fire her staff and hire them at $15 an hour while sending their kids to SUNY schools?

 

[BDinPutnam]

Fuck you gillibrand. Stop giving out my tax nonem to non citizens.

For that matter, stop giving my money to SS recipients after eight years, which is roughly the amount of time it takes for the average recipient to receive back what they paid into the system.

Social Security is the largest ponzi scheme in history. Period, full stop.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

For that matter, stop giving my money to SS recipients after eight years, which is roughly the amount of time it takes for the average recipient to receive back what they paid into the system.

Social Security is the largest ponzi scheme in history. Period, full stop.

Time limit ? I guess that should also apply to retirements and 401's or whatever someone contributes to...How about insurance...health or accident..you're only covered for what you put in. You're hospital bill is 150k but you only paid in 3k...pay up....or an accident and sued for a million...you only paid in 5k...pay up !! SS is abused at the least BUT was a system with guarantee's and a time limit is NOT one of the guarantee's

 

[Gonzobird]

So for me who in 26 years will be looking for my social security that i have been paying into since i was 15 years old I will see it being used up by people who didn't even pay into it as they were working under the table because they don't have social security numbers in order to be paid on the books and did not pay into the system.

Good plan.

How many other ways can the democratic party say fuck you to hard working citizens that have paid taxes all their life? I mean do they realize what they are saying as they say it or do they just regurgitate words put together by some AI that has been taught to put words that liberal sheep want to hear spoken in sentences?

The worst part is people still vote for that party.

 

[Phauxtoe]

is she RETARDED?
NO REALLY!

 

[fnfalguy]

For that matter, stop giving my money to SS recipients after eight years, which is roughly the amount of time it takes for the average recipient to receive back what they paid into the system.

Social Security is the largest ponzi scheme in history. Period, full stop.

You are absolutely right that it’s a ponzi scheme and that’s why the powers that be will find a way to get this done. The only way to keep the fraud going is to find another way to get money coming into the system. The illegals kick into the scheme and maybe our “trusted and responsible” leaders keep it somewhat solvent for an extra decade or so.

*SIGH. we are so fucked.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Time limit ? I guess that should also apply to retirements and 401's or whatever someone contributes to...How about insurance...health or accident..you're only covered for what you put in. You're hospital bill is 150k but you only paid in 3k...pay up....or an accident and sued for a million...you only paid in 5k...pay up !! SS is abused at the least BUT was a system with guarantee's and a time limit is NOT one of the guarantee's

I don't think you know how SS works versus 401k's. Nor insurance, for that matter.

My 401k is my money, I actually invest it, and it actually grows in value. And at the end, when I start taking money out of it, once it's empty, I don't get a free refill from Fidelity.

 

[Steal2B]

Buying votes, That's what the Democrats do...

That's all they have... Well that and orange man bad, literally Hitler.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

I don't think you know how SS works versus 401k's. Nor insurance, for that matter.

My 401k is my money, I actually invest it, and it actually grows in value. And at the end, when I start taking money out of it, once it's empty, I don't get a free refill from Fidelity.

Social security is also money invested and a fraction of what you invest in a 401K

 

[BDinPutnam]

Social security is also money invested and a fraction of what you invest in a 401K

See my post above. You *don't* get how social security works.

You lost the most important point of my post so I will dumb it down (and I mean no offense in that; I think this is common to many Americans)

When I start taking money out of my 401k, once my 401k runs out of money FROM THE MONEY I PUT INTO IT AND THE GAINS THAT IT ACCRUED, the company that hosts my 401k doesn't give me a free refill.

When I start taking money out of Social Security, regardless of when "my" money runs out, THE GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO PAY ME BENEFITS. This is unsustainable because future obligations for these entitlement payments are vastly outstripping active payments into the system by people currently working.

At best, the way it is structured, Social Security collapses in 2037. I'm due to retire, at best, in 2040. So I get what- ah yes- NOTHING.

Pon·zi scheme
/ˈpänzē ˌskēm/
noun
noun: Ponzi scheme; plural noun: Ponzi schemes
a form of fraud in which belief in the success of a nonexistent enterprise is fostered by the payment of quick returns to the first investors from money invested by later investors.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Correct..that's how BOTH are explained from the start and if you don't contribute enough to a 401...you run out...and that's your poor judgement/luck or whatever. SS was NOT designed as a personal 401 as some depend on it to be that way. It's a supplement. Where as a 401 is advertised as a "nest egg" and "your retirement future" and waving huge gains and interest to an investor..it also falls short in a lot of cases . SS was designed for contributors...not babies/spouses that don't work/ and others. That's it's downfall. A 401 contributed to with a reasonable amount of interest over 45 years will last a long time IF only 8 or 900 a month removed but people want 10k on up a month..but don't contribute enough to support that withdrawl for a long time.

 

[BDinPutnam]

I see you also don't understand how 401(k)'s work.

I would love to know what the balance in mine would be if I had been able to contribute my SS payments in to it. On the other hand I would probably be lighting my torch and sharpening my pitchfork if I knew.

 

[togmaster]

This 2020 election is the canary in the coalmine, if the Democratic-Bolsheviks pull this plan off to:
-Open the border,
-pack the Court,
-gut the 2nd Am.,
-work to abolish the Electoral College,
-consider reparations for slavery,
-destroy healthcare as you know it,
-expand the safety nets beyond capacity,
-grant free college,
-continue to attack, whites, Christians, and Israel,

Then the Republic will be done.

It's already done. Now we just need someone to clean up the mess left behind.