Anyone else notice moderates becoming angry with far left policies

[Saltwater60]

I’ve noticed it mainly with my family members especially my wife. I say to her more and more lately you sound just like me now. She always thought I was pretty far right and I should love and care about people more.
I just heard her on the phone complaining about the illegals getting drivers licenses complaining how it will make our lives more difficult and delegitimizes our drivers licenses. She also said how can the get a DL that’s a legal document of you are here illegally. I of course agree with her 100%, but I’m happy to hear her say it.
If Trump plays his cards right he will win again by a good margin I think. Biden being in the lead by leaps and bounds says to me even most democrats are not this far left. The far left is working hard to bring Biden down and their far left friends up in the polls. I think this too will backfire.
Funny how the left flip flops and they brought Bernie down for Hilary now they are trying to bring Biden down for the likes of Bernie. Funny huh?

 

[MuttCat]

I love it when they eat their own, as the saying goes.

 

[Podmonkey]

This is a trend I have noticed, yes. It's a trend that helped elect Trump, and that boost is only bigger now.

 

[Saltwater60]

This is a trend I have noticed, yes. It's a trend that helped elect Trump, and that boost is only bigger now.

Glad it’s not just me.

 

[Phazer]

Anyone else notice moderates becoming angry with far left policies

No.

 

[MilesTeg]

I think this is a trend and I also believe the left knows it's happening. But instead of them trying to conform to what Americans want they decided to bring in people to match their views. It's sad we really don't have representatives anymore.

 

[prambo]

Haven't noticed it, because I know few libtards, and talk to even less.

 

[Modean]

Moderates are alt-right as far as the new crop of Democrats are concerned. Hope they keep it up.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

People who don't think shit tastes bad will eventually realize what it is if they get fed enough of it.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I haven’t noticed it and almost 95 percent of the people I work with are liberals if not 98 percent . They actually defend illegal immigration and gun control with the same arguments that aren’t based on fact that the politicians use. I suspect you guys hang around too many people that lean to the right. Get out of the country, go to a major city, and then ask the question again.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Called "the big sort".

 

[99cummins]

Same with my wife. She was far from a liberal before she met me but every year she moves more towards my conservative/libertarian views.

 

[MilesTeg]

I haven’t noticed it and almost 95 percent of the people I work with are liberals if not 98 percent . They actually defend illegal immigration and gun control with the same arguments that aren’t based on fact that the politicians use. I suspect you guys hang around too many people that lean to the right. Get out of the country, go to a major city, and then ask the question again.

I don't disagree agree with what you said,but I don't think it holds true with the OPs premise. I would argue the cities a overwhelmingly not moderate liberals. They are farther dow the left spectrum. I do think a big shift is starting with the non white community. I think your seeing them wake up to politics and the disservice the Democrats have done to them.

 

[Bigfoot]

I haven’t noticed it and almost 95 percent of the people I work with are liberals if not 98 percent . They actually defend illegal immigration and gun control with the same arguments that aren’t based on fact that the politicians use. I suspect you guys hang around too many people that lean to the right. Get out of the country, go to a major city, and then ask the question again.

1.) "95 percent of the people I work with are liberals if not 98 percent." ---
Wow, I can't imagine how irritating that must be... I don't know one single liberal and I know quite a few people.

2.) "I suspect you guys hang around too many people that lean to the right." ---
I live in farm country, the only people that I know or talk to are right of center... It's just the way that it is around here.
There is a reason that I live where there are more cows than people.

3.) "go to a major city." ---
No thanks,,, I avoid any city like the plague. I do make one exception though, when I attend Buffalo Sabres games.

So I guess what I'm saying is, I may live in a bubble but I see no good reason to change that.
I have no want, need, or any good reason that I can think of to interact with lefties.

Is there such a thing as a "moderate" in the NYC area?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Lol. No. There is no such thing as moderate in NYC. I’m not making fun of anyone living in a country bubble. Wish I did and worked in it. Life would be easier. Instead I live in a moderate area but work in the belly of the beast in NYC. But the truth is that in population centers where the majority of the votes come from, the liberals ain’t changing their minds.

 

[prambo]

1.) "95 percent of the people I work with are liberals if not 98 percent." ---
Wow, I can't imagine how irritating that must be... I don't know one single liberal and I know quite a few people.

2.) "I suspect you guys hang around too many people that lean to the right." ---
I live in farm country, the only people that I know or talk to are right of center... It's just the way that it is around here.
There is a reason that I live where there are more cows than people.

3.) "go to a major city." ---
No thanks,,, I avoid any city like the plague. I do make one exception though, when I attend Buffalo Sabres games.

So I guess what I'm saying is, I may live in a bubble but I see no good reason to change that.
I have no want, need, or any good reason that I can think of to interact with lefties.

Is there such a thing as a "moderate" in the NYC area?

^^^^^^^
What he said!

 

[Uzi]

I live in a moderate area but work in the belly of the beast in NYC.

Poor guy.

 

[Saltwater60]

Liberals are not moderates. I’m talking middle of the road independents or people if you talked with you’d say or your conservative then if the conversation continued you’d say oh you have some democrat ideas too.

 

[tirwin1]

I know a couple of guys I would label as moderates and not too political. Unfortunately they have been put off by trump's rhetoric and style even though policy wise they would agree with almost everything.

I hope trump wins in a landslide in 2020 but I don't think that will happen. There are just too many people who don't like him because of his style. Sad but true.

 

[spat]

Moderates are alt-right as far as the new crop of Democrats are concerned. Hope they keep it up.

The Democrats are playing a long game.

They aren't worried about alienating the moderates right now, they are successfully changing everyone's ideas about what "centrist" is.

Half the country now considers Bernie centrist, and Biden right wing.

 

[HEX]

I think it would be fair to say I'm pretty much in the middle of the road on many things (with the exception of when it comes to gun rights), with libertarian leanings that might veer slightly into the conservative. I'd say I'm not happy in general with policies from the far left or the far right. As people are becoming more polarized on both sides these days, all it does is push me more toward the middle (again except for guns). I see some far left stuff and I say, "Holy shit, that's unbelievably stupid and short sighted .. guess I'll side with conservatives on this one". Then I watch far right stuff on it and I say, "Nope, also stupid and just as short sighted".

I feel like there's almost always some kind of obvious middle ground that neither far left or far right people ever see because they're too busy cheering on their side to acknowledge what's so horribly wrong with it. Politics is quickly becoming more and more like competing religions.

 

[MuttCat]

 

[Defilade]

There has been No left policy except for bashing Trump! They have nothing but race this, Transgender that, abortion here, Gay that... What are they going to sell the American people??? They have nothing!!!

 

[Toecutter]

I was speaking with a family member about this a few weeks ago, they live in Scarsdale, a very liberal area and he said more and more liberals he talks to aren't happy with the direction of the democratic party. I don't consider my self a conservative either. I land more in the center, I have a few liberal views myself but as things sit today I will always vote against the democratic party until they stop with the authoritarian shit.

 

[Phazer]

I was speaking with a family member about this a few weeks ago, they live in Scarsdale, a very liberal area and he said more and more liberals he talks to aren't happy with the direction of the democratic party. I don't consider my self a conservative either. I land more in the center, I have a few liberal views myself but as things sit today I will always vote against the democratic party until they stop with the authoritarian shit.

I work with many Liberals from the Progressive Westchester suburbs. No matter how much they dislike the direction of their party, they are Liberal Progressives...period. They will always, without fail, support the "D" in every election.

The intransigent "hate Trump" Left is an anti-American lost cause. They're not anti-American because they're anti-Trump, though. They're anti-American because they will unwaveringly support socialist, totalitarian, mob rule, anti-constitutional, infanticidal, blame-America-first, anti-2A, Progressives as long as they profess to hate Trump.

 

[Bigfoot]

Interesting thread.

 

[Bigfoot]

I know a couple of guys I would label as moderates and not too political. Unfortunately they have been put off by trump's rhetoric and style even though policy wise they would agree with almost everything.

I hope trump wins in a landslide in 2020 but I don't think that will happen. There are just too many people who don't like him because of his style. Sad but true.

I kind of sort of know someone similar. But her husband asked her if she wanted less of his paycheck coming home.
If not, She should vote for President Trump again. She said that she will be voting for Trump again but she does not like him.

Our votes do not really count in Upstate NY anyways... But this subject does make for a good discussion though.

 

[Bigfoot]

The whole I do not like President Trumps "style" so I won't vote for him makes no sense to me.

Making a comparison between The President of the United States and a auto mechanic probably isn't a good analogy.
But here it goes anyways...

Lets say a certain mechanic is well known to be the best in town. He is very skilled at his profession, a natural if you will.
He keeps his word unless unforeseen things happen. (think RINO'S)
He has the lowest labor rates in town so you end up keeping more money in your pocket.
He is not corrupt, he does not charge you for things you do not need. Again, keeping more money in your pocket.
99% of the time he makes the correct diagnosis and fixes the problem correctly the first time around.
The community has supported his business so in return he supports the community when and where he can.

But, the thing is, this certain mechanic can be abrasive at times... So instead, you take your vehicle to the mechanic on the other side of town that is well known as not to be a very good mechanic and will rip you off every chance he gets.

It doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Defilade]

The whole I do not like President Trumps "style" so I won't vote for him makes no sense to me.

Making a comparison between The President of the United States and a auto mechanic probably isn't a good analogy.
But here it goes anyways...

Lets say a certain mechanic is well known to be the best in town. He is very skilled at his profession, a natural if you will.
He keeps his word unless unforeseen things happen. (think RINO'S)
He has the lowest labor rates in town so you end up keeping more money in your pocket.
He is not corrupt, he does not charge you for things you do not need. Again, keeping more money in your pocket.
99% of the time he makes the correct diagnosis and fixes the problem correctly the first time around.
The community has supported his business so in return he supports the community when and where he can.

But, the thing is, this certain mechanic can be abrasive at times... So instead, you take your vehicle to the mechanic on the other side of town that is well known as not to be a very good mechanic and will rip you off every chance he gets.

You wrapped it up well! People love to be lied too if it makes them feel good.. Obama/Hilary

It doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Bigfoot]