New York Pistol Permit Owners Have One Year to Renew License Due to SAFE Act Provision
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masterswimmer
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Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
The hand holding has to stop, the individuals as citizens should be clogging up the switch boards with our own personal thoughts and messages. The reason the left gets to pull their bullshit is because they are vocal pains in the ass. Our acceptance of nanny state government has to stop, we need to stop being the silent majority, victims of our own inaction.
spat
.950 JDJ
So, what happens if people who don't have a CCW send in a renewal for one ?
What if they send in renewals for their anti-gun coworkers ?
What if they send in renewals for their anti-gun coworkers ?
Harry Hood
.223 Rem
You would have to submit permit upgrades to your license issuing authority, usually you county sheriff dept., they are not renewing the NYSP are doing the renewal. It states in one of the letters I posted if you don't reply the NYSP will send notice to your county issuing office to have your permit revoked. The particulars are sketchy as to who will show up at your door to collect your guns.
Harry Hood
.223 Rem
You would have to submit permit upgrades to your license issuing authority, usually you county sheriff dept., they are not renewing the NYSP are doing the renewal. It states in one of the letters I posted if you don't reply the NYSP will send notice to your county issuing office to have your permit revoked. The particulars are sketchy as to who will show up at your door to collect your guns.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
When Canada tried their national long gun registry the RCMP office got applications for grease guns, nail guns, staple guns. Hell, now they got airsoft guns in the stores.......... It was a useless information overload for their data people.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
You're missing the point.
The point is to flood the office with useless paper to clog up the system and make them realize how much of a cluster this is and make them "pay" for the BS that got rammed down our throats.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Based on the comments, I'd say a large number of people don't even know about this part of the law, or think it's a hoax. A bunch more feel it doesn't apply to them.
The NYSRPA shared the same link and got more of the same responses, but their privacy settings prevents me from sharing it.
The NYSRPA shared the same link and got more of the same responses, but their privacy settings prevents me from sharing it.
Harry Hood
.223 Rem
@camper4lyfe I get the point, but the question was can you submit to have restriction removed by NYSP. I am all for (as stated above) hardcopy forms sent snail mail and make them hand enter everything. The problem is, by having a PP the county already knows who I am and what I own, I think by pissing the NYSP off they will tell your county to pull your permit.
camper4lyfe
.308 Win
Or use fake information and make them sort through it.
Frankly, I find the lack of information, or "official" statements and/ guidance rather disturbing.
We've been rat-fucked so many times, in so many ways, by NY.GOV I'm thinking the official silence is just a prelude to attempted confiscation. Why, 'cause The Princess is now behind Crazyfornia in weird and tyrannical gun laws. He (read "It") has to make up lost ground to retain the "Full Retard" championship. And I'm not being facetious.
We've been rat-fucked so many times, in so many ways, by NY.GOV I'm thinking the official silence is just a prelude to attempted confiscation. Why, 'cause The Princess is now behind Crazyfornia in weird and tyrannical gun laws. He (read "It") has to make up lost ground to retain the "Full Retard" championship. And I'm not being facetious.
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
What this really is, is the NYSP doing another background check on you every 5 years and cross-referencing what you listed that you own to what the county forwarded to them when you made amendments.
They want to look for reasons to revoke your permit. IE.. Mental health, criminal violations, ect. They also want to revoke or cancel those permits that the holders have since moved away but kept and never informed of the move.
Your county still holds all the power in issuance. The NYSP are just a third party that'll double check everything to make sure we are safe...... sarcasm. They will not be interfering in restrictions. That's up to your county.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
This is from the Erie Co. clerks notes.
The NY Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (SAFE) Act of 2013 changed pistol permits into a renewable license. Renewal and re-certification of a permit holder’s eligibility is now mandatory and affects every one of our Members. If a pistol permit holder were to fail to re-new and re-certify his or her eligibility to possess a pistol license, that permit holder could (probably would) be charged with at least one Class A Misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year of incarceration. What follows is our current understanding of the process and how obtained this information:
Criminalized for not renewing, never to own a firearm again. So many of the uninformed will be up for a big surprise. FUAC
The NY Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (SAFE) Act of 2013 changed pistol permits into a renewable license. Renewal and re-certification of a permit holder’s eligibility is now mandatory and affects every one of our Members. If a pistol permit holder were to fail to re-new and re-certify his or her eligibility to possess a pistol license, that permit holder could (probably would) be charged with at least one Class A Misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year of incarceration. What follows is our current understanding of the process and how obtained this information:
Criminalized for not renewing, never to own a firearm again. So many of the uninformed will be up for a big surprise. FUAC
Ok so what is your plan of attack? I think many if not all agree that complaining doesn't work, action does but we need a banner to align behind and plan to execute against. Why is the left successful? Because they have ideological leaders that do the planning (DNC, BLM), the funding (Soros, Bloomberg, et al) and set up the ground game (MDAetc). That's what I'm talking about. With the greatest number of NRA members of any state I'd love to see them step up.
Don't forget there's an item in the SAFE Act saying if your permit is revoked you loose all gun rights. It opens the door for them coming to your house looking for long guns. Mind you this is separate from the federal check.
nfernaays
.45 acp
Renewal is total hogwash! The process of getting a permit in this state is more than enough to weed out the crazies. Renewal is persecution!
Bvin66
9mm
Everyone, on the last day, send by certified mail, incomplete forms. Maybe just name and address.
Let them sort the mess out. We shouldn't have to do their job for them.
They, as in the State, want the info let them contact each and every one of Us for it.
Let them sort the mess out. We shouldn't have to do their job for them.
They, as in the State, want the info let them contact each and every one of Us for it.
spat
.950 JDJ
Need to find some poor minority permit holder and have them sue claiming the cost is discriminatory.
If NY has to foot the bill themselves they'll change their mind about how important the process is quickly.
Not going to read all the posts... I'll just respond to the OP.
I have a question for all who plan to submit...
If you were registered to Vote, did you RE-REGISTER to vote this election? Hmmmmm...
So you all plan to submit to the will of the State and RE-REGISTER to maintain your RIGHTS? Hmmmmm...
Ok...
I just Wonder what King Cuomo would do when nobody re-registers? Courts and LE couldn't handle the case load, and if there is no firearms present in the home if they come, then what? Arrest you for what?... Just keep your mouth shut and what would they possibly charge you with? In court and when the Judge asks the whereabouts of the firearms and you refuse to answer what do you think will happen? Could the Judge compel you to say who you voted for? Or declare your religion?...
Bottom line is if the "PEOPLE" refuse to participate, what ever would they do... Oh my!?!?
I have a question for all who plan to submit...
If you were registered to Vote, did you RE-REGISTER to vote this election? Hmmmmm...
So you all plan to submit to the will of the State and RE-REGISTER to maintain your RIGHTS? Hmmmmm...
Ok...
I just Wonder what King Cuomo would do when nobody re-registers? Courts and LE couldn't handle the case load, and if there is no firearms present in the home if they come, then what? Arrest you for what?... Just keep your mouth shut and what would they possibly charge you with? In court and when the Judge asks the whereabouts of the firearms and you refuse to answer what do you think will happen? Could the Judge compel you to say who you voted for? Or declare your religion?...
Bottom line is if the "PEOPLE" refuse to participate, what ever would they do... Oh my!?!?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I hear you however one has to make choices. Sure you can do that but at the cost of your personal well being and protection.Not going to read all the posts... I'll just respond to the OP.
I have a question for all who plan to submit...
If you were registered to Vote, did you RE-REGISTER to vote this election? Hmmmmm...
So you all plan to submit to the will of the State and RE-REGISTER to maintain your RIGHTS? Hmmmmm...
Ok...
I just Wonder what King Cuomo would do when nobody re-registers? Courts and LE couldn't handle the case load, and if there is no firearms present in the home if they come, then what? Arrest you for what?... Just keep your mouth shut and what would they possibly charge you with? In court and when the Judge asks the whereabouts of the firearms and you refuse to answer what do you think will happen? Could the Judge compel you to say who you voted for? Or declare your religion?...
Bottom line is if the "PEOPLE" refuse to participate, what ever would they do... Oh my!?!?
Winning that fight does nothing for you tomorrow when you are unarmed and need it.
You can carry anyway tomorrow unlicensed, but at the cost of your freedom should you ever need to protect yourself.
One has to think this through and make the choice that benefits him.
Just saying.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Make sure you list the guns they own. And for good measure, note that the serial numbers are illegible.
Am fully aware and cognizant of the potential consequences for decisions I may make... Have thought about this since the passage of the Unsafe Act and the Re-Registration clause... There's so much in this law that is unjust it isn't funny!
Won't know what I'll do until I see the papers come in the mail should it ever happen. Will cross the bridge then. Who knows, maybe I'll hit lotto by then and get out of this God forsaken State... Lol
LMS
.357 mag
If you don't answer the judges question, he/she could hold you in contempt of court, which could include a fine and or jail time. Not saying I agree with the whole mess, just answering your question.
spat
.950 JDJ
Plead the 5th.If you don't answer the judges question, he/she could hold you in contempt of court, which could include a fine and or jail time. Not saying I agree with the whole mess, just answering your question.
This is NY, I am very careful to follow the law, but our laws are very incoherent. I would not want to provide evidence that might incriminate me.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The biggest problem we have is we cannot unite and because we have no cohesion, they run all over is instead of us running all over them.
If everyone said screws that including the cops, the law would be null and void just like the ridiculous sodomy laws and other ridiculous laws out there like in Michigan where it is illegal for a woman to cut her hair without her husband's permission.
eagleridge357
.223 Rem
I realize I should know the answer to this, but i don't..........What is the procedure for renewal? Does the state or county notify me, or am I supposed to submit renewal app on my own? How long before expiration should I make app to renew? Does anyone have answers to these questions?
No one knows yet? It's going to be a serious shit show.