Metzger bill to accelerate shift to electric vehicles in New York signed into law
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land peasants it's for the children 
I have no problem with an electric car.
But.....
I will NOT sacrifice power or utility.
I need my truck to pull horse trailers and other equipment.
I also am not willing to leave all repairs for the manufacturer to do.
I fix my own stuff and break stuff often.
If I cannot buy aftermarket parts to repair, then I dont want one.
Tesla makes decent cars but is a shit company after the sale.
But.....
I will NOT sacrifice power or utility.
I need my truck to pull horse trailers and other equipment.
I also am not willing to leave all repairs for the manufacturer to do.
I fix my own stuff and break stuff often.
If I cannot buy aftermarket parts to repair, then I dont want one.
Tesla makes decent cars but is a shit company after the sale.
1075tech
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Does any one here have an EV? I see them putting in charging stations at restaurants, rest areas, and even Wal-mart. Are these "free"? Can't wait til they start charging for these with a special tax to make up for the loss in gasoline taxes. Or will they just increase the gas taxes for those of us that don't go electric?
"reduce carbon emissions"....except for the increase in output from the generating plants to create the electricity needed. Maybe they should put in lightning rods to attract lightning. The figure out how to store the charge.
"reduce carbon emissions"....except for the increase in output from the generating plants to create the electricity needed. Maybe they should put in lightning rods to attract lightning. The figure out how to store the charge.
carpediem
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A worthless, garbage law written by an equally worthless, garbage commucrat.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
simply another illustration of why anyone who votes for a democrat is an extra in the movie "Idiocracy".
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Basically that.
It's a waste to invest all this money into infrastructure if people aren't ready to invest in the cars. The mousetrap needs to be better, and then the demand will follow. With demand will come adaptation from gas stations to make a profit.
Let the free market work by itself.
I came very close to buying one a few months ago. Decided on another Subaru instead. I’m fairly certain that our next cars will be EV’s though, ESPECIALLY if Subaru has one by then. My friend has a Tesla and I absolutely love it except for the ride height and styling.
We have looked at an EV for our second vehicle.
A few things I dont like are....
Cold weather can cut your battery time by 40%....thats not great.
And, the less expensive EVs have as little as a 75 mile range on the battery...Ford Focus, Nissan Leaf and a few others.
If I need to go to Buffalo, ill need to charge before I leave home, then charge before I get to Buffalo, then before I get home, then when I get home. Thats 4 charges for a 200 mile round trip.
Also, most arent great in the snow, they are heavy and hard to stop on ice.
And most of all, they are no more environmentally friendly than a gasoline car. From the energy needed to build them and source the batteries to the huge amount of coal burning electricity it takes to charge them, to the disposal of their very toxic batteries.
Some say that if everyone drove an EV, coal burning electric plants would need to produce 60% more electricity than they currently do.
We really couldnt find any advantage unless you go with a $100,000 Tesla....then you must deal with Teslas horrible after sale care.
Honestly I don’t care about the environmental aspects at all. I do a ton of city driving, which is where EV’s perform best. Sometimes just driving my kids back and forth to their mothers is 40 miles a day for me of stop and go traffic, it’s crazy. My Outback averages 26 or so with my normal habits, but an EV would be amazing for me. Plus both my wife and I can charge at work.
If I was to do this today with no money restrictions, I’d get her a Tesla and me a hybrid Crosstrek. I only passed on the Crosstrek because for the same price I was able to get a fully loaded Outback which is the most luxurious vehicle I’ve ever owned.
If I was to do this today with no money restrictions, I’d get her a Tesla and me a hybrid Crosstrek. I only passed on the Crosstrek because for the same price I was able to get a fully loaded Outback which is the most luxurious vehicle I’ve ever owned.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
I may already own one if I lived in a city.
Our problem is we have a 30 mile round trip toget to a store....not a good store, just a Dollar General.
To get to Wegmans or Walmart, its a 40 mile round trip.
In a Nissan Leaf in the cold, I would have to charge in town to make it home.
spat
.950 JDJ
An electric can make a great second car, but I would not want to rely on one solely with today's state of the technology.
I have given some though to getting one of these once we get to AZ though.
www.zeromotorcycles.com
I have given some though to getting one of these once we get to AZ though.
Welcome To Zero Motorcycles
Manufacturer of 100% electric motorcycles for the street and dirt.
www.zeromotorcycles.com
My Lt has one of those motorcycles. He loves it. It’s pretty much all he drives from Spring to Fall.
Jmac00
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and what happens to the "gas tax" on every gallon of fuel you buy? Now it becomes a highway use tax. I wonder how hard/easy it will be to disable that little toy that tracks your mileage
Jmac00
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I would buy an EV if ----> BIG IF, they could recharge a battery in the same time frame it took to fuel todays cars? 3 to 5 minutes, i really don't see that happening in the next 10 years
I saw an interview with a "top executive" of one of the major EV companies a year ago.
He said they are working on putting devices along the roadway that would charge your car as you drive.
He said it will start small scale in big cities and work its way out to the smaller towns.
So, you never have to charge your batteries, they charge as you drive.
Something like a Tesla coil, grabbing electricity from the air.
Estimated time until viable.....20-30 years.
Jmac00
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I saw an interview with a "top executive" of one of the major EV companies a year ago.
He said they are working on putting devices along the roadway that would charge your car as you drive.
He said it will start small scale in big cities and work its way out to the smaller towns.
So, you never have to charge your batteries, they charge as you drive.
Something like a Tesla coil, grabbing electricity from the air.
Estimated time until viable.....20-30 years.
great, I'll be long dead,
ProgSpear
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#1-AGW is a hoax based on skewed computer models concocted by the same kinds of Marxist dupes that pushed the ice age scam in the ‘70’s.
#2-Marxists will always try to separate you from your assets by any means possible.
#3-Agenda 21 and it’s progeny are a means by which #2 will be accomplished.
#4-EV’s limit mobility, which is a key objective of Agenda 21.
#5-Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.
#2-Marxists will always try to separate you from your assets by any means possible.
#3-Agenda 21 and it’s progeny are a means by which #2 will be accomplished.
#4-EV’s limit mobility, which is a key objective of Agenda 21.
#5-Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself.
Jmac00
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go ahead jump out of the car and plug it in, what could possibly go wrong
The real key would be a system where batteries are swapped out at a network of stations just like gas stations.
BDinPutnam
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I personally don’t ever see myself owning an EV anytime in the near future. They do not fit my lifestyle at all. I have a truck because I need a truck. I haul stuff for landscaping and I tow a camper 2-5 hours to camp. Also I will never make the money back on the gas savings or Maitenance costs. My wife’s 2014 just hit 46K and has never needed a repair. I drove it to and from work for 2-3 years too or it would only have 20K on it. Now I have a work vehicle so I’ll drive 5,000 miles a year and that’s about it. My wife drives the same.
I also refuse to believe the hold up is there aren’t places to charge your EV.
I also refuse to believe the hold up is there aren’t places to charge your EV.
More like a leasing program.
holdover
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Im not sold on them , the bottom line is better performance and price. That's the key.
FrankenCub
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That Zero FX-S is kinda interesting. Still takes pockets deeper than I have. I'll never go electric. WTF you gonna do when the power goes out? I'll stick with my old diesel, maybe I should turn the IP up a bit to piss off the globalists.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Bill is done by credit card at point of sale. Currently just a sales tax. I'm sure that will change when people get addicted.
spat
.950 JDJ
You keep a diesel generator at home to charge the bike if the power goes out. I'm not interested in it for any kind of green BS.
One often missed advantage of something like the FX-S is it's silent.
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
Meanwhile Cuomo just killed a bill that legalized electric scooters and bicycles in the name of safety..
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
Wasn't there a Bill that required EVs to have fake motor sounds because people are too stupid to look around for cars?
For myself, I don't see owning one. Not until they recharge in less than 10 minutes, have a range over 1000 miles, and are built into Jeeps.