What a sweet 2011

[Edwardteach72]

Ok so I hate standard ass 1911s (aka full sized .45acp single stack) but talk to me about high end (extremely out of my price range) 2011s (ie double stack 9mm) and I may be interested.

Not really trying to get into any type of argument on the viability of the 1911/2011 these days but a look at what high end can get you (we are talking close to $5,000) here we have the Nighthawk Firehawk.


For those still reading but dont want to watch the video.. 2,000 rounds no malfunctions (drop tested 4 times, once every 500 rounds) and two of the biggest take aways for me is

1) the optic mounting, the multi optic plates sit so low that you can run an RMR (or holosun) with standard height sights vs suppressor height sights

2) the fucking accuracy of this gun

First photo here is the zeroing of the gun with a Trijicon RMR RM06 (3.25moa dot) at 25 yards with 124g speer gold dots

The next shot here is after the 2,000 rounds and 4 drop tests (shoulder height drops onto the optic and mounting system onto concrete, he also did many single handed manipulations) again, 124g speer gold dots at 25 yards

 

[Bananabandit]

If its not a 10mm, its just a nerf gun.

Pretty sexy though.

 

[Edwardteach72]

If its not a 10mm, its just a nerf gun.

Pretty sexy though.

I checked their website. The Firehawk may be soon available in 10mm

 

[togmaster]

A 2011 is an outstanding competition platform. Eventually I'll have an STI but I've got a few more CZ's to buy first.

 

[Saltwater60]

A 2011 is an outstanding competition platform. Eventually I'll have an STI but I've got a few more CZ's to buy first.

I love the Sti guns. I like the DVC carry but it’s expensive. 3-4K can’t remember. I think it’s $2,999

 

[dsdmmat]

A majority (60%) of my 1911s are double stack guns. Until I started making guns I didn’t have a 1911 in 9mm, now I have several in both double stack and single stack configurations. Shooting the 9mm cartridge in a full size metal gun (38-46 ounce) feels like cheating. However, they are very fun to shoot. I am a 1911 man at heart, the poly 80s and P320s are trying to change that though. I don’t ever see myself owning more of either ( poly 80, P320) than 1911s though.

 

[Edwardteach72]

A 2011 is an outstanding competition platform. Eventually I'll have an STI but I've got a few more CZ's to buy first.

This isnt a competition gun it's a do all gun. Duty/carry/defense/game/plink

 

[HEX]

This isnt a competition gun it's a do all gun. Duty/carry/defense/game/plink

I think the issue there is that he's referring to an actual 2011, while the pistol you've shown here isn't one. I don't think I've ever seen anyone else refer to any double stack 1911 as a 2011, because a 2011 is very specifically a patented STI design that has some very distinct and significant differences from a 1911 (modular frame and such) . A 2011 is it's own thing and is not really a 1911.. it's a 2011.

 

[HEX]

Or is it ? Now that I look at it again , the one shown in the video does look like the STI design , and I do know that STIs patent ran out or something and other companies were supposed to be able to start making similar designs.. but I'm confused exactly what this is because the Nighthawk Firehawk as shown here doesn't have that modular looking break where the grip area starts.

Fire Hawk Pistol | Nighthawk Custom

9mm or 45 ACP, no 10mm upgrade at this time; Gold bead front sight; Solid black Heinie ledge rear sight; Match Grade 9mm/.45ACP Barrel; One-piece mainspring housing/magwell; Solid curved trigger; Black Version has Agent 1 Grips, Stainless Version has G10

www.nighthawkcustom.com

FIRST Look: The Nighthawk Custom Firehawk Has a Hidden Compensator

“That’ll be $22,” the clerk said to me as I was reaching for my wallet. I cringed a bit. Due

www.ballisticmag.com

 

[Edwardteach72]

I think the issue there is that he's referring to an actual 2011, while the pistol you've shown here isn't one. I don't think I've ever seen anyone else refer to any double stack 1911 as a 2011, because a 2011 is very specifically a patented STI design that has some very distinct and significant differences from a 1911 (modular frame and such) . A 2011 is it's own thing and is not really a 1911.. it's a 2011.

Yes but the staccato p duo is a 2011 and also not a competition gun

 

[HEX]

Yeah, sure, I was sort confused what I was looking at here on the Nighthawk though.

If you look at the Nighthawk double stack page, the pics do appear to show a 2011 style gun.

Double Stack 1911 Upgrade | Nighthawk Custom

Nighthawk Custom's high-capacity double stack frame option brings a new level of versatility and firepower to the classic 1911 platform. Exclusively chambered in 9mm, the double stack frame can be added to a variety of models, giving shooters the ability

www.nighthawkcustom.com

It's weird that they don't mention or point out anything in their own ad-copy about it having a separate modular grip from the receiver though. At first I thought maybe Nighthawk just made the frame to look like that style, but the pics show it does seem to have that design. Perhaps it's just understated to avoid issues with STI, who knows.
I may have been 'technically' correct in saying you (and the guy in the video) were 'technically' wrong to call it that, since STI owns that name and designation, but on the other hand you're totally not wrong.. because, yeah, that's basically a 2011 and I hadn't caught that in my first post ..heh

 

[Saltwater60]

Back in the day STI used to call any double stacked 1911 a 2011 front what I remember. I’ve watched their guns for sometime now. Or a 1911 with a polymer frame they call a 2011.

 

[Upstate43]

Still can't get into the 1911/2011 hype myself...I've shot them, and know their trigger feel is second-to-none. But the SAO, carry locked-and-cocked manual of arms is just something I can't get used to.

But, it does seem to be a good time to be building these pistol types...demand is strong.

 

[kemo357]

I want this.....

 

[Edwardteach72]

I want this.....
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Same.

 

[kemo357]

I couldn’t justify owning something like that.

 

[togmaster]

Or this at a little more than half the price.

StackPath

 

[Edwardteach72]

Or this at a little more than half the price.

StackPath

Now this this is what I want.. ok I actually want a parrot but they only make so many a year and only 10 come into the states

 

[togmaster]

Now this this is what I want.. ok I actually want a parrot but they only make so many a year and only 10 come into the states

Only worth it with standard capacity magazines. FUAC

 

[Edwardteach72]

Only worth it with standard capacity magazines. FUAC

Also if you could have threaded barrels