Property Seized, Money Taken - No Charges Filed (Michigan)

[Deplorable Me]

This happened in Michigan by the State Police. I suspect Andy will attempt to close his billion dollar budget gap by entrapping and extorting the subjects in NY (circumventing the law). He'll weaponize law enforcement under his direct supervision to do his bidding.

 

[Deplorable Me]

PS: I expect Andy to give finder's fees to neighbors and relatives who rat people out. People who are criminalized by new laws.

 

[Toecutter]

How did I know this had to do with illegal , unconstitutional drug laws. Meanwhile police scratch their head trying to figure out why no one trusts them anymore.

 

[Deplorable Me]

How did I know this had to do with illegal , unconstitutional drug laws. Meanwhile police scratch their head trying to figure out why no one trusts them anymore.

Hey, if it's not illegal, we'll make it illegal then seize you assets.

 

[Robin]

 

[ProgSpear]

Hey @Robin, nice try! Waving antiquated paper in front of armed agents of the state works every time! its Like telling them to go to their rooms and think about what they’ve done...

 

[Blimey]

"They asked me to sign a search warrant. I signed it. I didn't think I had anything to hide."

NO.

 

[repete]

"They asked me to sign a search warrant. I signed it. I didn't think I had anything to hide."

NO.

What a dumb ass! (him not you Blimey)

 

[Robin]

Apparently he DIDN'T have anything to hide. He wasn't arrested, or even detained. They stole his stuff. the cop's stole his stuff. We are now an official bizarro land third world country.
I probably have next to nothing in common with this guy, but like opinions, I might not agree with you, but I will fight for your right to express them. I don't care who you are, any right thinking American should be troubled by this in the least, and more likely outraged!
Robin

 

[kev74]

I went to Mexico on my honeymoon. While we were there, we got pulled over one day. The cop said if we didn't give him $500, my wife and I would be arrested. My wife speaks Spanish pretty well, while I can kind of keep up with what's happening in a conversation, but don't speak it well. Anyway, my wife started haggling with the cop, talking him down to $30

I don't see a whole lot of difference between what we went through and was this guy was put through - except it didn't cost us as much, and we had enough "due process" to be able to talk the cop down.

 

[Airborneguy]

I am a member of a law enforcement group on Facebook which is primarily made up of NY/NJ LEO's, but it is growing now so includes a lot of cops from places where this type of civil forfeiture is a thing. Actually, NJ practices it but not to as large an extent as other states.

There are outright BATTLES on that page over this issue where people end up booted from the group due to how nasty they get. New York LEO's lead the way most of the time because our state does not practice civil forfeiture without due process. In NJ (and other states), cops can seize large amounts of cash if the person cannot prove where it came from. I cannot begin to contemplate how bad of a procedure this is, but apparently the courts have backed it.

Nowadays, 99% of the shit people wail about against cops is nonsense, but anyone who participates in this system to me is an outright authoritarian undertaking actions more appropriate to dictatorships, shit we aren't supposed to see here. I can tolerate some perps more than any cop that is willing to do this, especially because it is almost exclusively a proactive action taken by the cop willingly.

 

[GOPerfect]

I hear Alabama and Georgia are the worst States in regards to this practice.

 

[carpediem]

There was a guy who took out a bunch of money to buy some vintage car he had been in negotiations over. After he decided to buy it, he got the cash together and drove off to pick up his car. He got pulled over and the cop took his money. I forget where this happened.
Then there is this from 2018. The incentive behind CAF shenanigans.....

Feds order Georgia sheriff to return $69G spent on Hellcat muscle car

A Georgia police department is hot water over the purchase of a Hellcat muscle car.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Jsmegs77]

NJ has had this reputation FOREVER, at least among truck drivers and other people who spend a lot of time on the road and may occasionally have large amounts of cash on them. Far as I'm concerned, civil asset forfeiture is theft, grand larceny or similar. The only instance I could potentially get behind it is following a conviction for a heinous crime, but even then it's tenuous at best.

 

[Shadow2]

Their was just a significant Supreme court ruling about forfeiture. Guess they didn't get the memo.

 

[Darth]

Meh, just call him a thug and move on.

 

[spat]

This sort of thing is why so many honest people are more afraid of cops than criminals.

Even if 99% of them are good, it just takes one to ruin your life.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Government agents seized $181,500 in cash at airport and won't give it back

A Florida trucking company is suing two federal agencies, saying agents seized $181,500 in cash at Tampa International Airport and won't give it back.

www.fox5ny.com

 

[Airborneguy]

This sort of thing is why so many honest people are more afraid of cops than criminals.

Even if 99% of them are good, it just takes one to ruin your life.

Most of those people are retarded and shouldn’t be catered to. Doing so is why we have destroyed policing in this country to the point that perps literally run our state.

 

[spat]

Most of those people are retarded and shouldn’t be catered to. Doing so is why we have destroyed policing in this country to the point that perps literally run our state.

It's getting to where "those people" are a majority.

Won't take much more overreach from the legislature to turn that into a significant majority.

It's not that the people are retarded, they are reasonable people that are living in an increasingly unreasonable country.

You bring up the clown show that justice is becoming in NY. That is exactly what the problem is. People see muggers and "real" criminals back on the street the day they are picked up, then they see stories like these where honest people have their lives ruined. What conclusion would you reach ?

 

[Airborneguy]

The horde that votes for this stuff is not composed of guns owners and conservatives who go to work every day and fear government overreach via the police. Those voters exist, but that’s not what we are experiencing here. The majority you speak of could disappear tomorrow and not only would society experience no ill effects, but we’d actually benefit greatly.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

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[MrWhite]

The horde that votes for this stuff is not composed of guns owners and conservatives who go to work every day and fear government overreach via the police. Those voters exist, but that’s not what we are experiencing here. The majority you speak of could disappear tomorrow and not only would society experience no ill effects, but we’d actually benefit greatly.

This right here!

 

[Jmac00]

this is why I 'diversify'. If government is going to be pulling this bullshit, then one must have trusted friends with YOUR cash and property and have multiple bank accounts so if the political criminals get one account, you can still operate with the other.

 

[Phauxtoe]

Welcome to the world of civil forfeiture. Loretta Lynch was considered the queen of civil forfeiture when she was an attorney general general in New York

 

[Saltwater60]

This happened in Michigan by the State Police. I suspect Andy will attempt to close his billion dollar budget gap by entrapping and extorting the subjects in NY (circumventing the law). He'll weaponize law enforcement under his direct supervision to do his bidding.

Andy has already weaponized the police.
My wife got a ticket for expired inspection. She ducked up so she admitted and took the ticket. We know plenty of cops so she could have gotten out of it. The fine for the inspection was $52.00 and the state surcharge was $93.00. That’s right state surcharge $93.00.

 

[spat]

The horde that votes for this stuff is not composed of guns owners and conservatives who go to work every day and fear government overreach via the police. Those voters exist, but that’s not what we are experiencing here. The majority you speak of could disappear tomorrow and not only would society experience no ill effects, but we’d actually benefit greatly.

The horde who votes for Democrats and RINOs ?

People don't vote for these policies, they just vote for the politicians who impose them.

Most Democrat voters are dupes, not "evil" or "retarded". They are good honest people who have been hoodwinked.

They vote "D" largely because they get their news from the mainstream media who tell them that Republicans are evil. They vote "D" because their union tells them the Republicans will take their benefits.

 

[Robin]

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