Cuomo’s response to the WuFlu Situation

[Steal2B]

Probably going to get heat for this, but I actually thought for once in his rotten fucking life, Cuomo did something productive. I thought his response to this whole thing was probably his best move. I didn't disagree with anything he has done (that I know about) regarding this outbreak and the containment efforts related to it.

Doesn't mean that I like him, but I thought his response was acceptable.

Heard today that 3M sent 500k masks to NY, CA, and WA. That'll help a lot, as there's places using 1 mask all day, while some have none, and others are burning through 1000's a day. Black Button apparently set up their machines to make sanitizer somehow, I have no idea, but great to hear.

FYI, FUAC has some very good advisors and handlers. I would not be too quick or confident on fully crediting prince andrew for their effectiveness during this crisis.

 

[That IdiotWayne]

FYI, FUAC has some very good advisors and handlers. I would not be too quick or confident on fully crediting prince andrew for their effectiveness during this crisis.

handlers?

 

[BDinPutnam]

FYI, FUAC has some very good advisors and handlers. I would not be too quick or confident on fully crediting prince andrew for their effectiveness during this crisis.

Hmm.

 

[Steal2B]

handlers?

Yeah. Handlers. He has a group of handlers, PR professionals and political consultants whose job is to manage what he says, how he says it, what points to make, what points to avoid, how he should say it, what to wear, what not to wear, his make up, his hair, etc. He inherited some and hired some. FUAC has serious faults, has a quick violent temper, can be hard to coach and they often have their hands full.

 

[stokes]

Both Trump and Cuhomo seem to be listening to the experts.They are merely putting it out there,albeit sometimes with their own little spin.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Both Trump and Cuhomo seem to be listening to the experts.They are merely putting it out there,albeit sometimes with their own little spin.

Fauci is about ready to blow his brains out so not sure what you mean vis a vis Trumpy.

 

[That IdiotWayne]

Yeah. Handlers. He has a group of handlers, PR professionals and political consultants whose job is to manage what he says, how he says it, what points to make, what points to avoid, how he should say it, what to wear, what not to wear, his make up, his hair, etc. He inherited some and hired some. FUAC has serious faults and they usually have their hands full.

So he is basically an actor?

 

[Steal2B]

So he is basically an actor?

They are actors and salesman as much as they are leaders. They have to sell themselves and often have poor natural platform skills or are socially disconnected. With modern media, and the need for enourmous fund-raising most high level politicians are part actors and part puppet.

 

[spat]

Actually, one thing that FUAC seemed to propose that was correct was "nationalizing of purchasing" necessary medical supplies. Right now, with regards to N95 masks, every state and municipality is bidding against each other and driving up prices. If only the government was buying the supplies and then providing them to states, it would prevent gouging.

I'd propose temporary emergency legislation that makes it illegal to engage in bulk sales of N95 masks to any buyer not directly associated with the federal government. The federal government would offer to purchase any, and all, N95 masks at the suppliers' prices that were posted on 2/29/20. Sellers would also be exempt from paying tax on the sales. Sellers not selling to the federal government would be subject to fines and/or criminal penalties. Such legislation would only be in effect for 30 days, would require renewal every 30 days, and would require legislation for each specific item.

Does this restrict free commerce? Yes, it does. But, it only restricts free commerce of medically necessary items as determined by independent institutions (hospitals) that report their problems to FEMA, DHS, and the CDC.

No.

We absolutely do not want nationalization of anything. That is the worse possible approach.

You say the states are bidding against each other and driving the prices up. Good. The higher the price goes the more motivation companies will have to fill that demand. And honestly if a company can retool to make masks in a couple days, they deserve to make as much profit off it as they can.

If the price of a mask doubles, that's a lot more companies that can afford to switch over their production. It if triples, that's even more.

A free market works. Far better than any centrally managed bureaucratic boondoggle. And in the end you will pay less and get more faster.

Do you really want the .gov to take over, and then Nancy Pelosi's second cousin will get the contract to supply all the masks. He will source them from the same companies that are making them now, at inflated prices, after a sufficient kickback and a couple week delay.

No. Put out an order that says "we will buy 10 million masks at 3x the old market rate and whoever delivers first gets the cash". That's how you solve the mask problem.

 

[Depick]

I'm kinda confused on what is actually supposed to happen on the national level.

I’ll be honest I’m extremely frustrated by the whole situation. Aside from what @Phazer mentioned about purchasing power I don’t know a whole lot that could be done. The time to act on a national level has come and gone. They failed to act. They should’ve prepared for this not downplay it.

 

[That IdiotWayne]

I’ll be honest I’m extremely frustrated by the whole situation. Aside from what @Phazer mentioned about purchasing power I don’t know a whole lot that could be done. The time to act on a national level has come and gone. They failed to act. They should’ve prepared for this not downplay it.

They should have kept the virus out to begin with

 

[Depick]

They should have kept the virus out to begin with

Exactly !

 

[spat]

Exactly !

In fairness to Trump, he has been trying and the Dems and media were fighting him every step of the way.

Even 2 weeks ago they were saying a travel ban from China was racist.

I wasn't even aware that "Chinese" *was* a race.
Does that mean that "American" is a race too ?

 

[That IdiotWayne]

In fairness to Trump, he has been trying and the Dems and media were fighting him every step of the way.

Even 2 weeks ago they were saying a travel ban from China was racist.

I wasn't even aware that "Chinese" *was* a race.
Does that mean that "American" is a race too ?

yes, American is a collection of western European races lie the Anglo Saxon. and the natives and the African Americans. ... maybe some of the mexicans but not the rest of south America. China also owns alot of our news.

 

[That IdiotWayne]

 

[FrankenCub]

Cuomo running his lips wanting to force companies to make more masks, yet last I read there was like 3 companies in the US making them and they are at full capacity trying to make more already.

 

[BDinPutnam]

The word is "incentivize."

 

[pramaglia]

Cuomo Administration Rejected Purchasing Additional Ventilators in 2015 for Pandemic Preparedness Based on Funding - Recommended System on Who Would Not Receive Treatment | The Gateway Pundit | by Kristinn Taylor

UPDATE-- We have updated this post and added clarification below.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[That IdiotWayne]

bruh

 

[Duke]

Thanks for posting that Pram......

 

[Keyzard]

Haven't watched Cuomo. Won't. Is he sporting any type of fancy windbreaker or jacket though? Are people lined up behind him standing there with their hands folded in front of them? Can't stand the theater when ever there are briefings.

Even better....today he was at the table in his best grey he-man polo shirt with it's little royal emblem flanked on either side by two minions wearing matching black windbreakers with the same royal symbol.........it was awe inspiring!

 

[S&W Fan]

Thanks for posting that Pram......

Hell, I posted that info. Yesterday To try and get it out there in another thread about cumhole . It’s kind of amazing how little people really know or care to remember about this narcissist.

Are they positioning NY Governor Andrew Cuomo to exit the DNC convention as the consensus nominee; the chosen one?

The Chosen One Rises… The ‘good cop bad cop’ routine with deBlasio just seemed a little too scripted… Then the framework of a usefully constructed contrast narrative started to become clear… Then, as if on cue, all national broadcasts started being interrupted for maximum exposure; again a...

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[Curmudgeon]

Now they’ll probably come in me!

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Blimey]

I think we’re getting to a point where drastic action needs to take place. Say what you will of me I don’t care but all Trump is doing is beating around the bush and making himself look stupid.

He's been retweeting complaints by people today about the "15 days guidance" and talking about readdressing it.

Here's what I think happens if Trump "rolls back" the 15 days guidance next week: summarily ignored. If he's not careful he will become irrelevant, and people look instead to their state leadership, and probably a proxy or two for the president, who at this time could be Cuomo.

Trump's public disagreement with Fauci is, I'm afraid, indicative of his general management style and by God it's the wrong style to have right now.

We are about to see a spectacular ramp up in cases and deaths and Trump is already talking about rolling back social distancing soon.

If the efforts to stop fighting this ceased tomorrow, this would come and go like the standard flu.

This is not the flu. Its fatality rate is magnitudes higher and there is no vaccine. Every single country impacted by this is not exacting harsh measures to fight it because it's another random flu strain.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Even better....today he was at the table in his best grey he-man polo shirt with it's little royal emblem flanked on either side by two minions wearing matching black windbreakers with the same royal symbol.........it was awe inspiring!

Wasn't there a vomit emoji? If ever there was a place for it.

 

[96coal449]

Wasn't there a vomit emoji? If ever there was a place for it.

 

[Darth]

This is not the flu. Its fatality rate is magnitudes higher and there is no vaccine. Every single country impacted by this is not exacting harsh measures to fight it because it's another random flu strain.

Source?

 

[meketrefe]

If the efforts to stop fighting this ceased tomorrow, this would come and go like the standard flu.

The focus on it is the reason for the hysteria.

And to say we need to be enacting wartime production acts!? Outrageous, but I guess some believe whatever the media tells them, while at the same time screaming "FAKE NEWS!", because daddy Trump said so.

Darth,
This is what many people think and I have to say there is some basis to it.

But at the other hand and following the empirical method we see the huge impact this virus has in comparison with the flu.
In Italy, Spain and other countries people are dying at unprecedented rate in hospitals and nursing homes.

The reason is because while many people die from the Flu there is actually a vaccine for the flu that prevents a lot of those deaths
including the groups at higher risk where the seasonal vaccine is pretty much a must for those people.

So unless we are ready to say good bye to many parents and/or grand-parents we need to maintain the contention protocols and
see if some of the drugs and the warming of the weather help. Herd immunity will take a long time and chances are it will not really work
w/o a vaccine like with many other diseases.

All the politicians failed to see this coming and made early statements of 'don't worry' , 'this is just a passing thing', all of them, the left, the right
and the center. China, Europe, Trump, Middle east, Africa, etc... they all tried to play it down to give a sense of optimism to protect the economy but then they had no clue what they were getting themselves into. So everyone was wrong. Nobody was ready no matter what they say. now they can play each other back all they want but that is more sensationalist BS.

I see lots of politically charged trying to make this a political thing and they sound like idiots when people are actually dying and doctors are asking for help.

We are better than that and we should let go of the news, social media bait and all that crap.

 

[meketrefe]

You can track local news of independent press all over...

Últimas noticias del coronavirus, en directo | Sanidad comunica 11.815 nuevos casos de coronavirus y 149 muertos, y que la incidencia sube 7 puntos

Asturias realizará una PCR a los jóvenes que vuelvan a la comunidad y convivan con mayores | La vacunación en España arrancará el 27 de diciembre | Madrid reduce de 10 a 6 las personas que se pueden reunir en Navidad, con dos grupos de convivientes como máximo

elpais.com

 

[Darth]

Darth,
This is what many people think and I have to say there is some basis to it.

But at the other hand and following the empirical method we see the huge impact this virus has in comparison with the flu.
In Italy, Spain and other countries people are dying at unprecedented rate in hospitals and nursing homes.

The reason is because while many people die from the Flu there is actually a vaccine for the flu that prevents a lot of those deaths
including the groups at higher risk where the seasonal vaccine is pretty much a must for those people.

So unless we are ready to say good bye to many parents and/or grand-parents we need to maintain the contention protocols and
see if some of the drugs and the warming of the weather help. Herd immunity will take a long time and chances are it will not really work
w/o a vaccine like with many other diseases.

All the politicians failed to see this coming and made early statements of 'don't worry' , 'this is just a passing thing', all of them, the left, the right
and the center. China, Europe, Trump, Middle east, Africa, etc... they all tried to play it down to give a sense of optimism but then they had no clue what they were getting themselves into. So everyone was wrong. Nobody was ready no matter what they say. now they can play each other back all they want but that is more sensationalist BS.

I see lots of politically charged trying to make this a political thing and they sound like idiots when people are actually dying and doctors are asking for help.

We are better than that and we should let go of the new, social media bait and all that crap.

I get that not having a vaccine sucks, but if we watched one season of the flu with the same viewfinder as this stuff the results would be the same.