Let’s Talk Statues.

[holdover]

General Grant torn down






Marco Rubio

@marcorubio

Pres.Grant was literally the opposite of a confederate rebel. This shows these mobs tearing down statues have zero to do with the cause of racial equality. This is now driven by anti-American Maoist,Marxist weirdos who hate our country.

 

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[Marine Cpl]

I explained it earlier. I even used your name.

Here it is in small words. As long as the American people have food, money, toys, and a roof, they will not make a conscious decision to fight and die and leave their families with nothing.

If you take that away and things become desperate, then they may. But as long as they have their iPhones, Starbucks, 401k, nice home and car, they will do nothing.

In days of past during other civil wars, the people had nothing. It was a hard life. No healthcare, no supermarkets, nothing. Everything they had, they built themselves or grew.

 

[livingston]

What are your wife's thoughts? Does she see similarities to the cultural revolution and what's going on now?

I have been divorced for many years. ... Mao thought he was losing support among the people helped put him in power. He turned the kids loose and they took too much power . He lost control. They called this period in China the Chaos. .. And it was . China was supplying Vietnam with arms ... By train. These trains were stopped and the arms were taken by children in their teens . ... Often early teens ... You had fighting among various groups in many cities . Serious gun battles . A bit like our gangs fighting over a corner , but they were fighting over control of a city
An adult could be put in prison by a 12 year old child. Every day the adults would attend meetings designed to praise something Mao had written. Maybe 20 adults in a room .. Mao said the sky is red ... You had 20 people trying to put a positive spin on that phrase ... You prayed that you were not one of the last on the list as you had nothing too add to the topic. .. Think of the hours wasted... All over the country.

 

[Catskillkid]

I have been divorced for many years. ... Mao thought he was losing support among the people helped put him in power. He turned the kids loose and they took too much power . He lost control. They called this period in China the Chaos. .. And it was . China was supplying Vietnam with arms ... By train. These trains were stopped and the arms were taken by children in their teens . ... Often early teens ... You had fighting among various groups in many cities . Serious gun battles . A bit like our gangs fighting over a corner , but they were fighting over control of a city
An adult could be put in prison by a 12 year old child. Every day the adults would attend meetings designed to praise something Mao had written. Maybe 20 adults in a room .. Mao said the sky is red ... You had 20 people trying to put a positive spin on that phrase ... You prayed that you were not one of the last on the list as you had nothing too add to the topic. .. Think of the hours wasted... All over the country.

You know the thing is...barring the cult of personality (Obama came close when he was in office) those things are almost happening here. Maybe not 12 year olds but 20 somethings in CHAZ/CHOP are basically doing that in the name of "social justice."

 

[holdover]

Here it is in small words. As long as the American people have food, money, toys, and a roof, they will not make a conscious decision to fight and die and leave their families with nothing.

If you take that away and things become desperate, then they may. But as long as they have their iPhones, Starbucks, 401k, nice home and car, they will do nothing.

I can agree with that to an extent. For the most part that is true , and has been true. And for the most part that has been true in the Ukraine and Yugoslavia. Normal people are not ready willing to throw down their lives and kill each other because they disagree. ( Well maybe you and Me )
Ive always used the same argument of why the right wing doesn't do anything.

But that's not wear it ends . The way I see it, and I know you disagree with me, is that things are changing , and changing sometimes cause turmoil. Ive been witnessing events far more powerful than anything I have ever seen or heard of before. Such as Marxist and socialists mayors and governors condoning and encouraging a dismantlement of their own power,in the form of police. The vile hatred toward anything American or white.. the fact that the protestors have passed the protest stage have armed up and taken their own terrority while the police and national guard were ordered to stand down. The burning down of business'es , the looting , and the ridiculous demand list, the Mexican La raza movement to retake California , the shaky stock market. The list goes on and on.

This isn't going to end, they are becoming a political party similar to the brown shirts in Germany .Sooner or later they are going to run into resistance . I don't see this going away or getting better , I see it getting worse. Then we have the elections in which both sides accuse the other of cheating which is another cause in itself for a civil war. I know you don't agree with me, that's fine , just say so and move on.

 

[holdover]

I explained it earlier. I even used your name.



In days of past during other civil wars, the people had nothing. It was a hard life. No healthcare, no supermarkets, nothing. Everything they had, they built themselves or grew.

This is an absolute falsehood.

Kiev Ukraine today or as you called it a third world country.





way,way,way,way back in 2014





The Donetsk pre war









probably would never have happened if they had super markets , hospitals and stuff

Third world night club in Kiev



The hard desperate life of Kiev clubbers in third world night clubs







Those poor bastards ,no wonder they began to kill each other like dogs

 

[livingston]

You know the thing is...barring the cult of personality (Obama came close when he was in office) those things are almost happening here. Maybe not 12 year olds but 20 somethings in CHAZ/CHOP are basically doing that in the name of "social justice."

I believe things are just getting started. How much chaos .. We will see... Just be prepared ... Food, Cash on hand ...Even for a disruption of the power grid. The liberals need to ruin our recovery... By the way,,, Trump is on a roll tonight....

 

[pjzwtl]

No it doesn't work like that. people don't decide to start a civil war. Its more reactionary to events

The civil war in tunisa started with a a man burning himself to death in protest.

The civil war in Egypt began with massive protests. these people didn't decide or plan to start a war.

Hmmm Antifa fucktards burning themselves to death... why can’t we see that one. I’ll even buy the.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I can agree with that to an extent. For the most part that is true , and has been true. And for the most part that has been true in the Ukraine and Yugoslavia. Normal people are not ready willing to throw down their lives and kill each other because they disagree. ( Well maybe you and Me )
Ive always used the same argument of why the right wing doesn't do anything.

But that's not wear it ends . The way I see it, and I know you disagree with me, is that things are changing , and changing sometimes cause turmoil. Ive been witnessing events far more powerful than anything I have ever seen or heard of before. Such as Marxist and socialists mayors and governors condoning and encouraging a dismantlement of their own power,in the form of police. The vile hatred toward anything American or white.. the fact that the protestors have passed the protest stage have armed up and taken their own terrority while the police and national guard were ordered to stand down. The burning down of business'es , the looting , and the ridiculous demand list, the Mexican La raza movement to retake California , the shaky stock market. The list goes on and on.

This isn't going to end, they are becoming a political party similar to the brown shirts in Germany .Sooner or later they are going to run into resistance . I don't see this going away or getting better , I see it getting worse. Then we have the elections in which both sides accuse the other of cheating which is another cause in itself for a civil war. I know you don't agree with me, that's fine , just say so and move on.

If the American people were all Holdovers, I would agree with you. However, they are not. They do not care. They are totally content with posting videos on Tiktok and taking pictures of their food on Facebook. At work, all they do is still talk about football. There are no games yet that is all they care about and talk about.

They do not see the issues that you see. And on top of that, guns are dangerous. That skinny nerd looking guy that works IT from home that you see at the supermarket with the fat wife is not going to get dirty. He’s a totally different breed than the men of yesterday.

You are a dying breed my friend. After you are gone, that’s it.

 

[holdover]

I will disagree with you once again.

 

[E the massive]

A civil war can be forced onto people. Doesn't matter how much shit you have. One side arms up and starts action the other side perceives a threat and tries to shut it down. The peons that wanted to just watch TV are now killing each other.

 

[Marine Cpl]

A few years ago I said on here that in a few years, nothing will happen. The American people will remain sitting saying that maybe one day. Now we are here. More things have happened and we still sit.

I will say it again. In a few years more things will happen and we will still sit. I will come back on here and say, “Do you remember when I said...”

 

[E the massive]

A few years ago I said on here that in a few years, nothing will happen. The American people will remain sitting saying that maybe one day. Now we are here. More things have happened and we still sit.

I will say it again. In a few years more things will happen and we will still sit. I will come back on here and say, “Do you remember when I said...”

You are confusing "let's take this country back!!!" with "let's kill conservatives and take their shit!!!". Bad shit can happen large scale with the right leaders and ideology. You won't have a choice.

 

[holdover]

Especially now that no one is going to try to stop them

 

[Marine Cpl]

Like I said. Skirmishes. Civil war? No.

 

[E the massive]

Deal. Everybody agree to keep the body count and destruction low enough so Will can "I told you so".

 

[Dr. Evil]

‘Tear Them Down’: BLM Activist Shaun King Calls For Destruction Of Jesus Christ Statues, Churches: ‘White Supremacy,’ ‘Oppression,’ ‘Racist Propaganda’

Shaun King, the controversial Black Lives Matter activist known for pushing false claims, called for the destruction of Jesus Christ statues and Christian churches for their depiction of the “white” holy family, which King argued are forms of “white supremacy” and “racist propaganda” that...

www.dailywire.com

 

[GOPerfect]

A few years ago I said on here that in a few years, nothing will happen. The American people will remain sitting saying that maybe one day. Now we are here. More things have happened and we still sit.

I will say it again. In a few years more things will happen and we will still sit. I will come back on here and say, “Do you remember when I said...”

This may be the time that America begins to wake up. Only time will tell.

 

[spat]

If the American people were all Holdovers, I would agree with you. However, they are not. They do not care. They are totally content with posting videos on Tiktok and taking pictures of their food on Facebook. At work, all they do is still talk about football. There are no games yet that is all they care about and talk about.

They do not see the issues that you see. And on top of that, guns are dangerous. That skinny nerd looking guy that works IT from home that you see at the supermarket with the fat wife is not going to get dirty. He’s a totally different breed than the men of yesterday.

You are a dying breed my friend. After you are gone, that’s it.

When the BLM Marxists come and kick you out of your home for "reparations", it doesn't matter how new the truck in your garage is, or how well stocked the refrigerator is, because they no longer belong to you.

You may scoff, but it's happening *right now* in major American cities.

 

[Elwood]

voter democratic map of 2016

someone else summed it up perfectly in another thread, “the game is over before the ref even drops the puck”

 

[CaseHardened]

Said it before: Social media has been the greatest undoing of this nation. That guy would eagerly line up to turn the showers on.

Peter Hitchens on dailymail made a good point. It's not so much the statues they tear down that is a worry as much as the ones they will erect.

And yet - correct me if I am wrong - you oppose President Trump.

Please inform us of your solution to preserve America that does not involve re-electing Trump.

PLEASE

 

[Marine Cpl]

When the BLM Marxists come and kick you out of your home for "reparations", it doesn't matter how new the truck in your garage is, or how well stocked the refrigerator is, because they no longer belong to you.

You may scoff, but it's happening *right now* in major American cities.

That’s not a civil war. That’s pockets of self defense.

 

[spat]

That’s not a civil war. That’s pockets of self defense.

When it happens in someone else's neighborhood "it's not a war"

When it comes to yours it will be.

 

[Marine Cpl]

When it happens in someone else's neighborhood "it's not a war"

When it comes to yours it will be.

Still not a civil war.

 

[spat]

Still not a civil war.

So, you wouldn't describe recent Iraq, Afghanistan, or Syria as in a state of civil war ?

What would it take ?

How many people on each side trying to kill each other before it's a "real" civil war ?

 

[Marine Cpl]

So, you wouldn't describe recent Iraq, Afghanistan, or Syria as in a state of civil war ?

What would it take ?

How many people on each side trying to kill each other before it's a "real" civil war ?

A civil war is a concerted effort between two groups within one country to eliminate the other side and take over. A few hundred Antifa/ BLM in one or two cities clashing with whites and Trump Supporters while every where else is business as usual isn’t a civil war. All it is is a skirmish or clash.

 

[spat]

A civil war is a concerted effort between two groups within one country to eliminate the other side and take over. A few hundred Antifa/ BLM in one or two cities clashing with whites and Trump Supporters things while every where else is business as usual isn’t a civil war. All it is is a skirmish or clash.

Fort Sumpter was just a skirmish too.

You're right, we're not there yet. But by the time it gets to your neighborhood it will be a lot more than a few isolated pockets.

Also, this is *a lot* more than a few hundred miscreants. There are 10s of thousands at least, and they *are* being coordinated.

So, if they get 100k is that a civil war ? 1M ?

'cause it's coming

 

[holdover]

A civil war is a concerted effort between two groups within one country to eliminate the other side and take over. A few hundred Antifa/ BLM in one or two cities clashing with whites and Trump Supporters while every where else is business as usual isn’t a civil war. All it is is a skirmish or clash.

And just how does one side decide to eliminate the other? Your lack of basic history is shocking. In every single case of a civil war there is a period of incubation . EVERY CASE. Sometimes long sometimes short . The true beginnings of the civil war didn't start at fort Sumter. There is a prephase period. The potential for a civil war is glaringly obvious to anyone who knows history. There are two sides that are diametrically opposed to each other in philosophy , and in economics . and its becoming more violent .

Your understanding is that there are ""A few hundred Antifa/ BLM in one or two cities clashing with whites and Trump Supporters""demonstrates your lack of understanding of the situation.

First off its not a few hundred. Its in the tens of thousands ,
2nd off, the clashes are with police
3rd off, one or two citys is not even close. Its in every major democratic city .
4th off It has morphed into something that has nothing to do with George Floyd anymore.

BLM has been co-opted by the socialist left. they are being used to further the agenda of the left. Anybody that has an understanding of history will tell you that the potential for a civil war is growing .

I know you hate me and disagree with every post I make, but Im trying to set you straight.

 

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