toxophilite
9mm
This “cycle” might be different from the past ones, a virus-unrest-preelection trifecta...but those that have been through something like this before: How long did ammo stocks go back to “normal”?
Ammo no stock - overstock cycles
- Thread starter toxophilite
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I have 300 rounds of SD pistol ammo being delivered Wednesday to top off supplies. I specifically got it now with the election in mind. All levels everywhere are very low to completely sold out. As soon as a place gets more in it is gone almost instantly. I do not see this getting better any time in 2020. Conserve what you have. Don't be wasting it all at the range.
@thewheels
.308 Win
I think this one will be slightly different but the previous panic buying spree screwed things up for a couple of years.
There's something to be said for stocking up on ammo and firearms that don't shoot the usual rounds.
Even at this point in our current panic spree, I've found 5.7x28, 357Sig, 10mm, 22 Hornet, 6.5 Grendel & Creedmor are still somewhat affordable and available.
There's something to be said for stocking up on ammo and firearms that don't shoot the usual rounds.
Even at this point in our current panic spree, I've found 5.7x28, 357Sig, 10mm, 22 Hornet, 6.5 Grendel & Creedmor are still somewhat affordable and available.
toxophilite
9mm
I’m surprised about the 6.5s, you’d think that it’s the hot thing in long range...but then long range guys tend to reload and they’re not “home defense” rounds. Those with well rounded and well stocked inventories have their I-told-you-so hats on at a nice angle right about now
toxophilite
9mm
Thing is, thats’s all I do with rifles. I always thought i have the shotgun “in case” and my rifles are just range toys.. I’m starting to see the light...so late in the game
@thewheels
.308 Win
In America, I'd have no qualms using a supressed 12.5 inch, 6.5 Grendel for HD.
I haven't shot at all since April. I'm only going to go shoot my new pistol so I can start to carry it. 200 rounds of FMJ and 50 rounds of HP then I'm done. Also this is a reason why I have pistols in 9, 40 and 45. I am not locked into the availability of only 1 caliber.
toxophilite
9mm
And all those youtube videos saying you should get a 223rifle 12ga shotgun 9mmpistol because they’re plentiful, most common rounds...pre-corona, those were the days
Elwood
.223 Rem
I’ve been accused in the past by acquaintances of going overboard with my inventory of items. I would always respond with, get what you want or feel you may need while the getting is good because in the future you may not be able. Those acquaintances would scoff and call me crazy, eccentric etc. some of those same people have also recently hit me up looking for things, my response lately has been, sorry I can’t help you, maybe in the past but certainly not now. They should have taken the friendly advice when they had the chance and planned accordingly.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Those Wolf 100gr bi-metal are quite adequate. And cheap. I think the last case I bought was delivered for $0.23 per.
toxophilite
9mm
6.5 grendel barrels and uppers were in stock when 223/308 were out, too. This was a few weeks ago when I was researching AR parts.
@thewheels
.308 Win
350 Legend as well
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
After the last fiasco, I have a plentiful supply of cartridges for every firearm I own.
But sometimes I want something else in addition to what I have, say Hornady Precision Hunter in .308 Win. 6 months ago no one touched it, "too pricey" compared to other available types. Go ahead, try to find some.
And when things are back in stock, another $2/box price increase, and its sold out in 5 minutes flat.
I don't know how a company like TargetSportsUSA stays in business, they're out of stock on most everything.
But sometimes I want something else in addition to what I have, say Hornady Precision Hunter in .308 Win. 6 months ago no one touched it, "too pricey" compared to other available types. Go ahead, try to find some.
And when things are back in stock, another $2/box price increase, and its sold out in 5 minutes flat.
I don't know how a company like TargetSportsUSA stays in business, they're out of stock on most everything.
They have LOTS of my money. Thats how.
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
I've bought there before. Tough to give them your money when they have nothing to offer in return.They have LOTS of my money. Thats how.
technicalgadget
.223 Rem
It took over a year and a half for 22LR to normalize stocks after Obama, hope we don't see that shit again with other calibers. In the past, employees of the big box stores would call their buddies and handfuls of people from the same buyer would swoop in and buy up everything in stock for that delivery week. Then we would see the same ammo go up on Armslist for double or triple the price, fucking skanks with no appreciation of the second amendment, just in it to make a quick buck. Those same fuckers are here lurking on this site, waiting for the next "ammo" heads up from someone so they can rinse and repeat the same bullshit.
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
I always find it amazing that American ammo companies can't keep up with demand. Dollars are just flying out the window.
Do you have any idea how many people are panic buying right now? Or guns? Every time in to into the local Walmart (about twice weekly for groceries) I see a line wrapped around the aisle at the gun counter with people waiting to buy guns and ammo. Any guns and ammo. people go in to get a shotgun and when there are none they are buying fucking hunting guns! Lever action, even bolt actions! And they hoover up any ammo they can get their hands on.
No company can keep pace with these panics. You think an ammunition plant can just whip together another production line in a matter of days? Tooling up a new line takes many months. And the companies aren't going to do that anyway since once the panic dies down that extra equipment will sit idle, a crippling loss of capital. They best they can do is add shifts and optimize production on existing equipment.
As for the OP, possibly after the elections, with a Trump victory we will probably see the start ofnthe move backnto normal but it will be about a year before things get backnto where they were and that is assuming nothing else happens innthe interim. I don't thinknhe has a snowball's chance in hell but if sleepy joe gets elected, well fuhgetaboutit. We'll have a quadruple whamy panic catastrophe on oir hands at that point, don't expect to see much of anything and what is available will be at an outrageously inflated price. For example, before the extended obama panic era cheap 5.56 FMJ blasting ammo vould be had for around $.25 a round. At the height of those panics cheap M193 could go for almost $1 a round. Even today the typical price range for 5.56 blasting ammo is nownin the mid $.30s per round range. A lot of people shot Russian steel case ammo in those days. A 7.62x39 AK would be a good gun to have in times like these, wish I had one myself. 7.62x39 steel case usually remains fairly cheap even on a panic, as long as the imports can flow freely.
Elwood
.223 Rem
It’s not just ammunition, all the online retailers are pretty much out of everything, just go online on Brownells or MidwayUSA and anything to do with AR’s will more than likely be out of stock or on back order. When inventory does come in it’s in stock for hours or a few days at most, even junk parts are pretty much gone.
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
I understand what you're saying. Plus, they're in a cycle. Much of their product line, and certain cartridges, is produced seasonally. Usually they're busting ass all summer, so there's ammo on the shelf after Labor Day, for hunting season. Plus the stress on the raw materials market.
But, good God. 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 5.56x45, 7.62x51, 12 ga., ...that's their year round bread and butter, gets them thru the seasonal slumps.
I've yet to see a $100M company didn't want to be a $300M company. Surely they must realize the money running thru their fingers.
Edit: OR we have to live with the fact that there will always be a limited supply of goods.
I'm a prime member. I buy frequently. I have a nice stock of premium ammo because of them. Things you cannot find in stores. 50 round boxes of LE ammo. Bulk 1000 round orders of 5.56 (X)M193, bulk 9mm and 40. Got tons of LE 12ga buckshot with 8 pellets that you can't find anywhere else in a store. My ammo is at my door 2 days after I order usually. Just the other day I ordered 300 rounds of Federal HST 50 round boxes. Good luck finding that in a store. I was just in my FFL and saw people coming in steadily looking for ammo and they don't have any. When I got my 45ACP Glock I looked at Cabela's and their price was about $16 more per box than TS if I remember correctly, maybe more. Yes their inventory is low right now, but you can sign up for email notifications when your product comes in. Everyone is low or completely out. It's not their fault.
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
That's why I like to buy online, so I can get EXACTLY what I want, versus settling for what some local dealer has in stock.
I do realize that TargetSports isn't the only retailer low on inventory.
spat
.950 JDJ
In this environment ? I could see the shortage lasting into 2022.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Buddy finally went out recently for his first gun, a mossberg 500. I tried to get him to buy one a few years ago but he wasn't ready. Now he said he can't find one.
The good news after all this is once the demand does go away the supply will stay high for a while and have low prices. I think I was paying like $.13/round for 9mm a year back...?
The good news after all this is once the demand does go away the supply will stay high for a while and have low prices. I think I was paying like $.13/round for 9mm a year back...?
Im glad I have been stocking up for 3 decades. I literally had to reinforce my floor under my ammo stockpile....true story.
And, I have, do and will continue to shoot several times a week.
Just went through 300 rd/ 9mm, 200 rd/ 10mm and several hundred rounds of various 357 and 38sp.
I went through all the partial boxes I had.......I hate partial boxes.
And, I have, do and will continue to shoot several times a week.
Just went through 300 rd/ 9mm, 200 rd/ 10mm and several hundred rounds of various 357 and 38sp.
I went through all the partial boxes I had.......I hate partial boxes.
I haven't panic bought anything as I've got a fairly good stock. But I just looked at my usual suppliers and was flabbergasted that they're out of almost everything! Like WTF... over!!!
So I bought 100 rounds of Underwood just because I think I'm low on some of theirs, lol.
Even my reload source for decent .357Sig is out ... Geeee, I'll send them brass if they need it ( I try to save what I shoot - New Brass, even though I don't reload yet) hahaha
Fuck too because I wanted to go shooting this weekend and now I'm gonna keep my stock to myself
because I'll go through a few hundred rounds of various calibers when I go.
Anyways... Guess I'll have to sign up @ a few places for notifications, lol
So I bought 100 rounds of Underwood just because I think I'm low on some of theirs, lol.
Even my reload source for decent .357Sig is out ... Geeee, I'll send them brass if they need it ( I try to save what I shoot - New Brass, even though I don't reload yet) hahaha
Fuck too because I wanted to go shooting this weekend and now I'm gonna keep my stock to myself
because I'll go through a few hundred rounds of various calibers when I go.Anyways... Guess I'll have to sign up @ a few places for notifications, lol
toxophilite
9mm
Found this old thread, mostly about prepping but still relevant to a plinkster like me
nygunforum.com
Your ammo supplies: reload or stockpile?
Your ammo supplies: reload or stockpile? I've stumbled (via e-mail) into quite the heated debate over what one needs in the way of reserve ammunition supplies, particularly if there are severe disruptions to what one can buy in the shops for an extended period. (I'm sure many of us recall the...
nygunforum.com
SmallGameAddict
.308 Win
Well, I spose I could be in a lot worse shape. Accumulated some nice guns over the years as a hunter, shooter and hobbyist.
After the previous shortage under Obama lesson learned and I stocked up and made sure I had a good supply of each cartridge for every gun.
Gotta be thankful for that.
I do miss the pre- Obama shortage prices tho, esp the Labor day sale prices.
After the previous shortage under Obama lesson learned and I stocked up and made sure I had a good supply of each cartridge for every gun.
Gotta be thankful for that.
I do miss the pre- Obama shortage prices tho, esp the Labor day sale prices.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
IMO...If Trump wins Antifa and BLM will go full crazy .. Folks will see this and a run on guns and ammo will continue for a long time . If Biden gets elected Beto is his anti gun czar ... One will see even stronger gun sales ... And with that ammo sales
