gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Can anyone answer this question? I genuinely want to know.
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Can anyone answer this question? I genuinely want to know.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I would guess that those who don’t get vaccinated but are susceptible will continue to wear them. Those that think them fashionable, will as well.
As much as I hate the term, The New Normal, I think that masks are here to stay for quite some time. Lots of Masktards that think they actually make a difference.
You are going to have those people that think, if not Covid, something else. We live among cowards and sheep. Day by day, more people come out of their homes and fall into the sky is falling crowd.
The masks are here for a very, very long time.....
tony
6.5 Creedmoor
11 pages... You guys are all fupped duck. Maybe that's why I feel so at home here...
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Yeah, I know what you mean. Wait... what?
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Sadly you are spot on. I'll say it again and again. If pathogens (germs) were the true cause of death and disease we wouldn't be here to be having this discussion. Don't know why that is so hard for people to see.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Seems to me that the body is continually updating, and upgrading your immune system every time you touch, breath, eat something that it senses is potentially harmful to it. With all the sanitizing going on I think some people will have no immunity against something as simple as the common cold. Down the road there will be a price to pay.
Robin
Robin
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Seems to me you are correct. BTW, this is also what happens with the overuse and abuse of antibiotics. Pathogens mutate to survive and the drugs become less and less effective over time. Super bugs are created as a result. We create our own Frankenstein so to speak.
spat
.950 JDJ
Any article that starts out "*All* the medical experts insist" is flat out lying.
Nothing else in the article can be taken seriously.
If it said "*All* dentists agree brushing your teeth is good" it would be a lie. The vast majority sure, but it's never "all".
If the first sentence is obviously a bald faced lie, why bother reading any further.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
That's why I trust Trident gum. It's only 4 out of 5 dentists.
spat
.950 JDJ
Better yet, get a real respirator and then start berating Karen because her mask is ineffective.
Tell her she is putting you at risk by wearing her croched pussy mask.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I grew up working in cow manure, working with animals, and ate dirt.
I very rarely get sick. And when I do, it never lasts long or gets very severe.
What I'm saying is, I like your post.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Yea but like a lot of things they can easily spread bullshit. There is more than a few in these threads from both sides of the argument.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Will one does not have to have a Noticeable fever, fever at all or feel/ appear sick to be symptomatic. The bathrooms in bars and restaurants may be the main vector. Add to it kids share drinks, food And pass the doobie around etc.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That’s my point. Asymptomatic realistically speaking is just a word with no relevance in the real world. If one has been infected and has no symptoms whatsoever and is officially asymptomatic and if one just has a non noticeable fever at 99 degrees or an occasional sneezing fit that one attributes to allergies, they are all one in the same who do not believe themselves to be sick. Both will go to a bar in Florida because they are open for example or on a subway train here.
Some like many members here will not wear a mask because fuck the gubmint and when they have the occasional sneeze or cough that may hit them perhaps 4 times a day, all their expelled bodily fluids hit the air to be inhaled by someone else if they are close to them or to land on a surface instead of the majority being contained in the mask to be touched by someone else.
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holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Funny How I and everyone I ever knew never caught it (with the exception of two positive tests). With all those germs out there you would think Somebody I knew would have died by now. Nope .
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Because you live far away from the hot zones. I know of no one from upstate that caught it but know of many with ties to the city either via living there or working there that have caught it.
It’s a simple concept to understand. In the beginning no one in NYC knew of anyone that had caught it except those that went to China.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Oh I see, after six months it only stays in one place . Gotcha
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
How many people from your work have passed since the last 3?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That I know of? None. Infections have dropped too since mandatory mask usage. Coincidence? Maybe.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Well it’s very well may if...
1. Not many from your area travel to NYC or vice versa.
2. Those that do, protect themselves with PPE, the washing of hands, and distancing from others.
Here’s how it works since it needs to be explained to you. I work in the city. I live in a condo complex about an hour and a half north of the city. I haven’t infected anyone in my complex since I took precautions to limit my chances of infection, haven’t gotten infected yet, and if I do encounter others in my complex, we keep our distance.
See how that works?
E the massive
.308 Win
Or a deliberate release in the subway system.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Maybe. I wouldn’t put it past the deep state. Nothing is far fetched anymore.
ShadeTreeTuning
.177 BB
The original post is the dumbest crap ever. Just wear a damn mask. It’s the simplest thing ever. Not just all about you. You have asthma so you can’t wear a damn mask? I’ll put $50 saying you prob wear a face mask in the deer stand and or a face mask during turkey season. What the heck is wrong with some of you guys I mean seriously grow up be a responsible, respectful, productive member of our society. It’s people like this original poster that give us gun owners a bad wrap.
You guys out there that are saying the virus is fake, it’s a hoax, nobody is really dying, also are the idiots that do stupid crap and say stupid sh$t and give gun owners a bad name. People like you are the reason we have to deal with the SAFE act.
The OP literally wants to sue true value for discrimination? Can’t wear a mask because if asthma? You SHOULD be wearing a mask BECAUSE you have asthma. If you get sick, having asthma will make it worse and if your 50+ you will most likely die.
Can we verify if the OP is not sick and indeed still alive? Such a dumb thing to be mad about. Your unwillingness to wear a mask is putting me, my family, and everyone else out there at risk.
If your asthma is so bad you can’t wear a piece of paper over your face for 20 minutes while you are in true value, you should not be buying stuff at true value to do whatever work you are doing because you got bigger problems than a private business having the right to refuse you service. No shirt, no shoes, and now no mask no service deal with it or move to Florida or Texas or something. I hear they are doing awesome right now. Just please be a responsible respectful human, I absolutely hate that I even have to write this as my first post ever. I am just so sick of when people find out I’m a gun guy I immediately get grouped with people like this. We are all safe, responsible, respectful gun owners. Why can’t we be safe, responsible, and respectful humans?
You guys out there that are saying the virus is fake, it’s a hoax, nobody is really dying, also are the idiots that do stupid crap and say stupid sh$t and give gun owners a bad name. People like you are the reason we have to deal with the SAFE act.
The OP literally wants to sue true value for discrimination? Can’t wear a mask because if asthma? You SHOULD be wearing a mask BECAUSE you have asthma. If you get sick, having asthma will make it worse and if your 50+ you will most likely die.
Can we verify if the OP is not sick and indeed still alive? Such a dumb thing to be mad about. Your unwillingness to wear a mask is putting me, my family, and everyone else out there at risk.
If your asthma is so bad you can’t wear a piece of paper over your face for 20 minutes while you are in true value, you should not be buying stuff at true value to do whatever work you are doing because you got bigger problems than a private business having the right to refuse you service. No shirt, no shoes, and now no mask no service deal with it or move to Florida or Texas or something. I hear they are doing awesome right now. Just please be a responsible respectful human, I absolutely hate that I even have to write this as my first post ever. I am just so sick of when people find out I’m a gun guy I immediately get grouped with people like this. We are all safe, responsible, respectful gun owners. Why can’t we be safe, responsible, and respectful humans?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You are 100 percent correct. Unfortunately, the peanut gallery here will stick together. Be prepared for some flame posts calling you a sheep and what not and how masks do not work even though coughing into a tissue contains the majority of your respiratory droplets and aerosols that would otherwise be expelled into the air.
No matter what medical facts regarding virus transmissions via respiratory fluids are given to them, their minds are already made up and there is no changing them just like liberals. They are cut from the same cloth. Only difference is that their beliefs are at each end of the spectrum from one another.
No matter what medical facts regarding virus transmissions via respiratory fluids are given to them, their minds are already made up and there is no changing them just like liberals. They are cut from the same cloth. Only difference is that their beliefs are at each end of the spectrum from one another.
spat
.950 JDJ
If you're going to wear a mask to protect yourself, that's fine.
But if you're going to do it, then wear a mask that's actually going to be effective.
Anything else (and nearly every mask anyone is wearing is utterly useless for this) is just virtue signaling.
You can get masks and filters that are actually tested and proven to work for this sort of application. So, if you're really worried, why aren't you using one of them ?
For reference, here's what an actual scientific study of mask effectiveness against viral infection looks like.
Note that it was conducted long before the covid hysteria, so it's probably far less politicized than anything you will find this year.
Do N95 respirators provide 95% protection level against airborne viruses, and how adequate are surgical masks? - PubMed
The N95 filtering face piece respirators may not provide the expected protection level against small virions. Some surgical masks may let a significant fraction of airborne viruses penetrate through their filters, providing very low protection against aerosolized infectious agents in the size...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Nothing is 100. Even a respirator. But I’m sure a man as intelligent as yourself can see that if droplets do escape a mask they will travel a lesser distance than unimpeded shot straight out the mouth with force to reach farther distances. I’m sure you are intelligent enough to know that when walking by someone and keeping a distance, that can be the difference between the droplets or aerosols (which are smaller droplets) reaching you and you becoming infected or not.If you're going to wear a mask to protect yourself, that's fine.
But if you're going to do it, then wear a mask that's actually going to be effective.
Anything else (and nearly every mask anyone is wearing is utterly useless for this) is just virtue signaling.
You can get masks and filters that are actually tested and proven to work for this sort of application. So, if you're really worried, why aren't you using one of them ?
For reference, here's what an actual scientific study of mask effectiveness against viral infection looks like.
Note that it was conducted long before the covid hysteria, so it's probably far less politicized than anything you will find this year.
Do N95 respirators provide 95% protection level against airborne viruses, and how adequate are surgical masks? - PubMed
The N95 filtering face piece respirators may not provide the expected protection level against small virions. Some surgical masks may let a significant fraction of airborne viruses penetrate through their filters, providing very low protection against aerosolized infectious agents in the size...
Enough already. Spat. You are one of the most intelligent men here. Possibly the top 10 of the whole forum. Don’t let political BS compromise your responses here.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
Some (note I say "some") of this "I won't wear a mask because MUH RIGHTS!" reminds me a bit of the "look at me I'm opening carrying because I can!" silliness.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Welcome. Nice first post. We have discussed this ad nauseum. I respectfully disagree with many of your inaccurate and emotional points related to health and mask wearing. Also never said this virus was a fake, a hoax and nobody is dying. Yes, many non gun owners feel the same way as I do so it really has nothing to do with guns owners giving anyone a bad name. Finally, I fail to see how this stance on the scamdemic has anything to do with having to deal with the UnSafe Act. Anyway, carry on.