spat
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I don't think we've had a trustworthy election in this country in a long time.
But 2016 was no where near as bad as 2020. The scale of the mail in voting alone assured that.
Election Coverage And Results Thread
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But 2016 was no where near as bad as 2020. The scale of the mail in voting alone assured that.
So there was more fraud in this election?
spat
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There was certainly the potential for more.
There was also far less ability to detect it. Almost by design.
Sure, but you said there was. Just looking for that E word.
livingston
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The Small World of Voting Machine Certification
An understaffed tiny federal agency and 2 private testing labs responsible for certification of nation's voting systems
By Jeff Carlson
November 20, 2020 Updated: November 20, 2020
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News Analysis
The fallout of the Nov. 3 elections has put the spotlight on the integrity of electronic voting machines used in the United States. In response, authorities have pointed to certifications of the machines as a safeguard against potential systemic problems with the voting machines and their software.
A deeper look into the certification process used for the machines, however, reveals that the main certification agency in the United States, the federal Election Assistance Commission (EAC), maintains an unexpectedly small staff, and one of its chief employees is a former executive of Dominion Voting Systems.
Furthermore it appears the bulk—if not all—of the testing of the election equipment is conducted by only two companies, Pro V&V and SLI Compliance.
Electronic voting systems have become increasingly incorporated into the election process, raising concerns over their security, reliability, and accuracy in the process. Lightly-staffed federal agencies who appear to maintain overly close ties to the companies they are supposed to be monitoring raises additional questions about the thoroughness and integrity of the verification process.
Dominion Executive Joins Federal Certification Commission
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An understaffed tiny federal agency and 2 private testing labs responsible for certification of nation's voting systems
By Jeff Carlson
November 20, 2020 Updated: November 20, 2020
News Analysis
The fallout of the Nov. 3 elections has put the spotlight on the integrity of electronic voting machines used in the United States. In response, authorities have pointed to certifications of the machines as a safeguard against potential systemic problems with the voting machines and their software.
A deeper look into the certification process used for the machines, however, reveals that the main certification agency in the United States, the federal Election Assistance Commission (EAC), maintains an unexpectedly small staff, and one of its chief employees is a former executive of Dominion Voting Systems.
Furthermore it appears the bulk—if not all—of the testing of the election equipment is conducted by only two companies, Pro V&V and SLI Compliance.
Electronic voting systems have become increasingly incorporated into the election process, raising concerns over their security, reliability, and accuracy in the process. Lightly-staffed federal agencies who appear to maintain overly close ties to the companies they are supposed to be monitoring raises additional questions about the thoroughness and integrity of the verification process.
Dominion Executive Joins Federal Certification Commission
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livingston
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Obama era documents submitted to the TGDC and NIST containing dire warnings about Smartmatic/ Dominion Voting Systems:
https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/i...
https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/i...
https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents
An excerpt in which concern is expressed over:
… the swift rise this spring of Dominion, a little known foreign company engaged in Internet voting and with no reported income, to become the first or second largest voting machine company in the United States, after purchasing, in May 2010, voting systems made by Diebold (Diebold formerly was the second largest voting systems company in the U.S. and no longer has a U.S. voting systems business), and after purchasing, in June 2010, Sequoia Voting Systems, the voting machines of which rely on proprietary source code developed and owned by Smartmatic, a company headquartered in Venezuela with ties to the Hugo Chavez government of Venezuela … Efforts to date have not succeeded in determining the ultimate owners of Smartmatic or the extent to which Smartmatic and the Chavez government of Venezuela have influence over U.S. elections through Smartmatic‟s control of the software that counts votes for Sequoia (now Dominion) voting machines. Concern is that Smartmatic’s sale of Sequoia “was fraudulent,” “a sham transaction designed to fool regulators
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https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/i...
https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents/i...
https://www.nist.gov/system/files/documents
An excerpt in which concern is expressed over:
… the swift rise this spring of Dominion, a little known foreign company engaged in Internet voting and with no reported income, to become the first or second largest voting machine company in the United States, after purchasing, in May 2010, voting systems made by Diebold (Diebold formerly was the second largest voting systems company in the U.S. and no longer has a U.S. voting systems business), and after purchasing, in June 2010, Sequoia Voting Systems, the voting machines of which rely on proprietary source code developed and owned by Smartmatic, a company headquartered in Venezuela with ties to the Hugo Chavez government of Venezuela … Efforts to date have not succeeded in determining the ultimate owners of Smartmatic or the extent to which Smartmatic and the Chavez government of Venezuela have influence over U.S. elections through Smartmatic‟s control of the software that counts votes for Sequoia (now Dominion) voting machines. Concern is that Smartmatic’s sale of Sequoia “was fraudulent,” “a sham transaction designed to fool regulators
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ArmedCorgi
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This reminds me of the time there was a crime committed in my neighborhood and the police and DA personally came to my house and everyone else's to disclose the evidence and details of the crime to us before they took it to court. They were very nice. 
Anyway, why are we arguing with each other about burden of proof like we are ourselves involved in the case? Trump's lawyers are not going to disclose evidence to the press (and a hostel and dishonest press at that). One thing that I haven't really seen thought about here, is that the press may be front and center in the alleged fraud. If that is the case do you think Trump's lawyers are going to disclose that or any details to the them???
At what point does one side of a lawsuit have to disclose evidence to the other side? I know prosecutors have to disclose evidence to the defense but how does it work in cases such as this?
I'm as eager to see what, if anything, they really do have on the dems and media as anyone else here. It's been a roller coaster for sure, but I am going to try and keep the faith that they do have the goods on the dems and that they are playing their cards close to their chests until it gets to the supreme court. Trump has been one step ahead of them through all the other attempts at removing him from office, so I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt. If it turns out to all be BS, I'll be very disappointed, but the egg won't be on my face. It will be on Trump and his team for being stupid.
Anyway, why are we arguing with each other about burden of proof like we are ourselves involved in the case? Trump's lawyers are not going to disclose evidence to the press (and a hostel and dishonest press at that). One thing that I haven't really seen thought about here, is that the press may be front and center in the alleged fraud. If that is the case do you think Trump's lawyers are going to disclose that or any details to the them???
At what point does one side of a lawsuit have to disclose evidence to the other side? I know prosecutors have to disclose evidence to the defense but how does it work in cases such as this?
I'm as eager to see what, if anything, they really do have on the dems and media as anyone else here. It's been a roller coaster for sure, but I am going to try and keep the faith that they do have the goods on the dems and that they are playing their cards close to their chests until it gets to the supreme court. Trump has been one step ahead of them through all the other attempts at removing him from office, so I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt. If it turns out to all be BS, I'll be very disappointed, but the egg won't be on my face. It will be on Trump and his team for being stupid.
livingston
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Sequoia Part 2: The Princeton University report released (10/17/2008) shows how the changed ROM chip works correctly in Logic-and-Accuracy testing mode. However, in Official Election mode vote-stealing firmware could be programmed move votes from one candidates total to another while taking care not to change the totals. Then in official election mode, for every voter before or after the nth voter, the program does nothing. It waits until the 20th voter casts a vote (a real fraud would wait until the 150th voter or even higher, to better distinguish a real election from a test. For complete Princeton University report and 90 minute video go to: http://citp.princeton.edu/voting/adva...
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spat
.950 JDJ
There is fraud in every election. The only question is the scale.
There absolutely is hard evidence of fraud in this one. People are being prosecuted for it.
But what % of the fraud is caught ? That is the question.
1000 fraudulent votes won't swing this election. But what if that's only 0.01% of the fraud ?
Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
GOYABEAN
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Nevada: Total Ballots Cast: 1,327,394, Total Presidential Election Votes: 1,405,376
Nevada: Total Ballots Cast: 1,327,394, Total Presidential Election Votes: 1,405,376 - Geller Report
There are 77,982 more votes in the Presidential election than there are casted ballots in Nevada. Biden has a +33,596 margin currently.
gellerreport.com
Its all about the certification. If the State doesn't not certify according to the Constitution it must go to the House of Representatives for the vote. One State, One vote! Here is where we are right now. And I used a liberal rag.
www.nytimes.com
Biden Secures Enough Electors to Be President (Published 2020)
Here’s a look at how many electoral votes have been certified — or made official.
More tomorrow.
More tomorrow.
More tomorrow.
Same old story, same old song and dance my friend.
byron
.308 Win
Trump Legal Team Member Confirms 'Shocking' New Lawsuit To Be Filed In Georgia Early Next Week
Jordan Sekulow on a new lawsuit.
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Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
You’re asking to prove a negative;that there was no fraud. It’s a logical impossibility.
Trump’s case just thrown out in PA. I guess the judge saw this the same way I do.
Trump loses lawsuit that sought to block Pennsylvania win for Biden
The judge's decision is a crippling blow to Trump's long-shot bid to invalidate enough ballots in multiple states to reverse Biden's victory.
Elite strike force team indeed. What are they at now? Won 1, lost 30?
Trump tweet about how PA is not lost coming in 10...9...8...
Arjuna
.338 Win Mag
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Obama's golf buddy Matthew Brann is a well known partisan hack ... this is not a surprise and this was understood to be the case a week ago. The appeals will go to judges that don't legislate from the bench and follow the law.You’re asking to prove a negative;that there was no fraud. It’s a logical impossibility.
Trump’s case just thrown out in PA. I guess the judge saw this the same way I do.
Trump loses lawsuit that sought to block Pennsylvania win for Biden
The judge's decision is a crippling blow to Trump's long-shot bid to invalidate enough ballots in multiple states to reverse Biden's victory.www.cnbc.com
Elite strike force team indeed. What are they at now? Won 1, lost 30?
Trump tweet about how PA is not lost coming in 10...9...8...
Obama-appointed judges hear election lawsuits — but Trump picks loom
Republican election fraud lawsuits are landing in the laps of judges who got their jobs on the federal bench from the Obama-Biden White House.
www.washingtontimes.com
kev74
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Dr. Evil
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politician there's only one POTUS at a time #NOTMYPRESIDENT
kev74
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Congratulations! You've been elected mayor of Clown World! Honk honk!
Dr. Evil
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And you don't throw that around lightly.
kev74
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Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
She might. I've been a good boy lately! When Biden is inaugurated in January she won't think back to the weeks and months I spent ranting about election fraud and she won't have to try and forget all the times I assured her that any day now it would all be proven in court.
kev74
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kev74
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Dr. Evil
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If that happens my wife will remember the weeks and months WE spent ranting about the election fraud that occurred and she will be right there with me having to deal with the BS that will occur as a consequence related to guns, taxes, socialism, etc. because people like you were too much of a pussy not wanting to possibly have their spouse find out they had differing opinions. Now, mask back on. Covid is exploding.
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kev74
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kev74
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More of that 6-D chess where losing is winning eh?