holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
The ATF found a loophole . I dont agree with it . but at the same time, it does not infringe on my protected right to own a firearm.
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Well based on the ATF they say it actually is a firearm.
Get caught with a bump stock and just a bump stock and guess what you now have an "illegal machine gun"
folding/telescoping stock is not a necessity for a firearm to function...
Well good thing that must not be an intrigment.. there's a win for the safe act
You see, it is the ignorant that cannot have a real conversation. Too much emotion with things. They always seem to want to inject into a conversation, stuff that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Some though, love having conversation based in truths and facts.
And he is the separation.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I dont think that is what they said. I belive it was more like owning an auto sear . which is not a machine gun either
Show me where the 2A says that we can't own machine guns.. if a bump stock is now a machine gun per the law/definition... guess what its an infringement to say i can't own it
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Your right ,It doesn't.
So you are saying, let's say I didn't own a single gun, hell not even an 80%.
But then I ordered an auto sear off wish, I can't be charged with owning an "unregistered machine gun"
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
The whole machinegun law is unconstitutional in itself.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No. thats not what Im saying at all.
I wasn't the one who classified the bump stock as a machine gun.. the atf did, therefor I should be able to own one
Why its not a machine gun
But banning bump stocks isnt?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No Im not saying that.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
The law that its based on is wrong and unconstitutional
Hum, now we are getting somewhere....
Agree, NO PRESIDENT EVER has kept more promises. To me President Trump is the greatest President this nation has seen in many a decade. Imagine any man trying to accomplish anything with 97% of the press negative, the opposing party 'pertner criminal is its attacks, the insanity of china commie lover Adam Schiff and the delusion of devil possessed Jerry Nadler all over your back every day (and ton more congressional lunatics).
He did an amazing job! Minus this virus he would have gone down easily as the greatest president ever - reelection would have been a landslide.
Moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem was HUGE!
Who can ever forget these clowns:
Oh I know you're arent
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ Nailed it! That is exactly how I read President Trump's move. Tossing red meat that was freezerburnt anyways!
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Well actually... If you ordered a drop in auto sear or lightning link or even made a device out of a coat hanger it would be an unregistered machine gun. Unless you got a tax stamp of course. I guess that's how the ATF can get away with the bumpstock even though it still doesn't ACTUALLY make it full auto. It's the same way a baffle can be considered a suppressor. It's all ridiculous.
Someone mentioned constructive intent. The problem with that is that a lower doesn't necessarily have to be an NFA item. Remember... in non communist states you are allowed to build firearms for personal use. So even if you ordered an 80% WITH the parts to make it functional WITH intent to make it a firearm there's nothing illegal about it. You can't send a firearm through the mail. An 80% isn't a firearm until it's milled out. This should be won in court pretty easily.
That was my point
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
And just to be a bit more technical and confusing lol. You can indeed buy just an auto sear. But not a drop in auto sear (DIAS). You can also buy a full auto bolt carrier for an AK and a full auto sear for the AK too. All the parts and springs needed. This is because you would have to drill a 3rd hole into the respective receivers. And again it's all ridiculous.
spat
.950 JDJ
So, you voted for Biden, because he was a better option.
Or you stayed home (or voted for Jo, which is the same thing).
Either way, even with all his faults, a Trump vote was far better than the alternatives.
Policy wise, I agree with Jo far more. But we vote for more than policy. Jo would not have fought 1/10th as hard, even if she could have gotten elected.
This is correct
spat
.950 JDJ
The GOP may have had a majority, but conservatives never did.
There are some Democrats I would vote for before some of the Republicans you are counting in that majority.
spat
.950 JDJ
The 2A doesn't say "guns" it says "arms".
That would generally include all the equipment necessary for a soldier to wage war.
By that notion, bump stocks might not be protected because no army in it's right mind would ever issue them, they are a gimmick.
Full auto is protected. As is body armor (which isn't even a weapon, but is certainly part of "arms necessary to equip a militia")
spat
.950 JDJ
He's halfway to achieving "peace in the middle east".
Hell, I thought we'd see flying unicorns before that.
He may not have achieved everything he wanted, but he's done more good than all the presidents since Reagan combined.
drowhawk
.44 mag
It doesn't really matter what you or I or anyone else in this state voted for. NY votes blue and changed their election law so the popular vote winner always gets the electoral. You and everyone else are so quick to say I'm wasting my vote, while you all make the same fruitless effort to vote for your candidate.
You have a right to tell me your candidate is the only logical choice and I have the right to disagree. At the end of the day it's all philosophy because our fate was sealed way before this election. Voting here made no difference.