Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Totally understand. I should have worded it differently anyway.
Jerry’s Firearms Raided
- Thread starter DrBleachCocktail
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Question for you:
How many boxes of that ammo do you think Lucky Gunner would have on hand if they priced it at $44?
I don't give a fuck.
Im done with them.
Fair or not, it's my choice.
They have terrible customer support anyways.
Ok, that sidesteps the question though.
The reality is if they priced at big box prices they would get snapped up by a few if not one person, they would have no stock, you'd have the same amount of ammo from them and that ammo in all likelihood would be resold for a profit.
No amount of kicking and screaming changes the laws of supply and demand.
I know you will just say no for argument sake but dont you think $200 over value is a bit much?
Question for you:
Why is lucky gunner the only e-tail shop online with tons of ammo in stock?...I keep track.
Ooooohhh dang, I can't wait for the answer.......its because very few people are dumb enough to buy 500 rounds of plinking 9mm for $900......thats why.
Thats almost $2 a round......for cheap ass target ammo.
People keep bitching about not having ammo so I tell them about LG......nobody ive told has bought any......they rather not shoot.
And again, I know everything you are about to say.....supply and demand.....etc...
But I dont care, they have gone too far.
Nope, our local Runnings has a 2 box limit. Everyone gets a little.
Its not perfect but just trying to get through.
I dont really care, ive got many thousands of rounds of 9mm, 10mm 38sp, 357 magnum, 22LR, 22 Mag, 308, 7.62x54r.....and lots of shotgun shells of all sizes.
I just gave a friend 500 rounds of 9mm for his birthday.
LG still sucks.
It's almost like...
It's almost like...
It's almost like...the higher the price, the less people are willing to buy.
It's almost like you now have a choice. Go without, or pay more.
Gee, the textbook definition of supply and demand.
Do I think $200 is a bit much? Yes. And you know who else does? The market apparently. Hence the stock. Prices will fall until demand picks up again. It's almost magical.
"Box limits" are what they put in place when they under price to satisfy the whiners and they work great until they don't. And they don't as soon as one guy has his family come in.
spat
.950 JDJ
Box limits reward the guy who has a lot of time on his hands (to run all over town buying 2 boxes at every store) at the expense of everyone else.
Supply and demand rewards the guy who values the product higher than everyone else.
All you guys who complain about the product being priced over its value appear to misunderstand what "value" means.
If someone is buying it at that price, then to them its value is *at least* that much.
And if you've got a few boxes laying around and you're not selling them for that much, then *to you* the value is at least that much.
People are getting $75/brick for cheap .22lr right now. They are getting that from people for whom the value of a brick of .22 is *more* than $75.
For me, I've got a bunch of .22, but I'm not selling it, so the value of the .22, plus the cost of selling it, *is* more than $75.
If it was going for $1000 a brick I'd be selling.
So, somewhere in between is what *I* value it at.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
While I agree with you and that has happened with target sport USA vs other higher priced companies.
I fully agree with and support criticalt o will not buy from outdoor limited or ammo suply warehouse for the same reasons. However if you look TSUSA likely has no ammo and the others mentioned do.
Exactly what I said.....so you agree completely.
Like I said, and im not repeating it 1000 times to you like usual....... I 100% understand supply and demand and the free market.
Again like I said, this decision with LG is just my opinion on their selling tactics.
Im NOT saying its illegal, Im NOT saying its not their choice......im just saying that marking ammo up 20x what others are selling it for is ludicrous.
spat
.950 JDJ
Not if people are willing to pay that.
Sure, and you didn't buy as it wasn't worth it to you.
Not price gouging.
Not bad business practices.
I completely understand what value means.
Marking up a $44 product to $240 is ridiculous and they will lose my business for ever.
Like I said above, box limits arent perfect but its working here in our small community. Now THATS business sense. Ever time I go in Runnings they have ammo.....9mm, 223, 556, 762x39, 22LR.......and they have the same shipment for days.
Everyone has their own strategy but a 20x markup doesn't work and it loses customers.
Hahahaha
I have plenty of ammo but wouldnt buy theirs if I had none.
And yes, bad business practice absolutely...
Im not buying it.
My friends arent buying it.
Most here arent buying it.
Are you buying it?
You can look on their website at how many boxes of ammo they have.....it doesnt move.
Here and on other forums people are saying they will no longer use LG.
Thats very bad business.
But they arent.
Here and other places people are saying the same as I am.
20x markup is bad business and people will remember.
Just look at how much ammo LG has for sale.....and its not moving.
I was wrong.....the $44 box of ammo is $255....and the numbers havent moved in 3 days.
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spat
.950 JDJ
So, if nobody is paying that much, then they aren't really selling anything (and they aren't hurting anyone either)
Reminds me of a relative of mine, wife told him he had to sell his corvette. So he advertised it with a ridiculous price and would just keep saying "nobody's interested".
It's like the guys who go to a gun show and don't really want to part with anything, they just want people to look at their collection.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Folks we cheer when we see record gun sales month by month... By the same token we complain when the same people are looking for ammo ... Any ammo. at any price. This is what the situation in Biden land... People are scared .. We could in the near future be looking at a law that severely limits the amount of ammo one can purchase per month. .. I can see this ammo shortage continuing far into the future. There are folks that will pay that high price. .. Brother-in law knows several folks that just purchased their first gun... These folks make several hundreds of thousands of Dollars per year...They will buy ammo at any cost.... No problem...
Yeah, no. The reason it isn't selling is that the asking price is over what the market is currently willing to pay.
If it was lowered, you'd see how fast those "anti LG" people were no longer that.
People with weak character.
And.....whats the "yeah,no"???
Thats exactly what ive been saying this whole time.....their asking price is over what the market is willing to pay.....so FAR over it makes them assholes IMO.
You can think differently, thats fine.....Ive used them several times and thus is just the last straw....as ive already said.....their customer support sucks.
And to tell the truth, their regular prices were not great.
I never said a word about price gouging....not one word.
I know as much about supply and demand and free market as anyone.
I make a product that costs me $10-$30 to make and sell it for $400-$800.
Others who do what I do sell their product for $3,000-$8,000......for something they pay $10 for. My business is ALL about supply and demand. I cant keep my pruduct on the shelf. Ive got orders for products I wont have for 6 months.
Apparently there is some movement on this case now. interesting discussion here.
Maybe actually link it bit just screen shot?
Oh shit my bad it looked like a screen shot not an actual link.. thanks
I never said they were hurting anyone, never said it was price gouging, never said it was illegal and never said they couldnt do it.
All ive said is that in my opinion selling a $40 box of ammo for $255 is a total dick move and I will remember it, thats all ive said in this thread.