Auto Key Card Raided .. what is a auto key card .. pew pew pew pew drawing on metal ..
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Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
I saw this. Too bad we dont actually know if it was for the card or an actual crime. The site is still up which is odd, unless they are using it as a honeypot. Speaking of which where did he come up with the prices on the cards, I'm surprised they sell.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I could only take that guy for 20 seconds. Got a summery?
C3D
.338 Win Mag
The dude was basically selling lightning link punch outs on a card. Not much mystery why there was a bust. Customers gonna be in trouble too.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
me too, Any clown that wears a hat like that, automatically lose all credibility
anyway, whats this 'key card' they are talking about
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
seriously, i got no clue what you're talking about???????????
From a website called thehomegunsmith.com (not sure if this is the one talked about in the video):
"The only complaint I've ever heard about the Lightning Link is it converts the firearm to full auto only. I
can't see that's a problem. No one says you have to hold the trigger down until the magazine's empty. I've
found with a little practice it's easy to fire two shot bursts using the Link.
Also keep in mind; that it takes only about ten seconds to install the Lightning Link in a standard unaltered
AR-15, and only about six seconds to remove it. Going from semi-auto to full and back to semi is only a
matter of seconds."
Yea, I'm betting the feds saw the conversion to full auto as something of a problem.
"The only complaint I've ever heard about the Lightning Link is it converts the firearm to full auto only. I
can't see that's a problem. No one says you have to hold the trigger down until the magazine's empty. I've
found with a little practice it's easy to fire two shot bursts using the Link.
Also keep in mind; that it takes only about ten seconds to install the Lightning Link in a standard unaltered
AR-15, and only about six seconds to remove it. Going from semi-auto to full and back to semi is only a
matter of seconds."
Yea, I'm betting the feds saw the conversion to full auto as something of a problem.
spat
.950 JDJ
Wonder what happens if you sell stickers to put on some sheet metal and hit with a dremel ?
80% machinegun ?
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
Why buy/sell when scaled drawings are all over the interwebs. Print on an avery label to scale, apply, and use your SOT to make a post sample.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
A lightning link converts semi auto to full auto with a simple drop in. You can read about it here: Full Auto for Any AR: How a Lightning Link Works -
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
THANK YOU
Why would he need a public defender, any one of the many pro 2A groups should be running to his aid.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
So a refined and fancier piece of coat hanger?
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
Alternatively, if you're going to do something that's frowned upon or outright illegal (let's save the discussion of whether or not it SHOULD be legal, I think most of us are on the same page with that)... DON'T POST IT ON THE DAMN INTERNET.
I swear, narcissism is one of the biggest personality flaws in the universe. Seems like almost every behavior that results in trouble, legal or otherwise, can be directly traced back to narcissism.
I swear, narcissism is one of the biggest personality flaws in the universe. Seems like almost every behavior that results in trouble, legal or otherwise, can be directly traced back to narcissism.
Don't post it on the internet. Use an international web server/host. Register the domain anonymously. Run everything behind firewalls and VPN's, shell corporation, accounts, etc...
There are ways to at least make it difficult to be tracked! Geeeze, Luise!...
There are ways to at least make it difficult to be tracked! Geeeze, Luise!...
Target
6.5 Creedmoor
Reading the comments, it is not a "simple" drop in piece of tin.
You must use a specific Colt bolt carrier, have a low shelf receiver, be able to time your rifle among other things.
That's not to say it is impossible, but not do-able by the average guy with a PSA kit or Windham rifle.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Just requires a semi-auto carrier. And as for low shelf, that's almost every receiver manufactured today (and the majority of most non-Colt post 1971 receivers). Whether or not it's been timed is irrelevant, a gun with a lightning link and a semi carrier will fire in full auto, even if it's out of battery, and that's a machinegun.
Last I checked PSA are high shelf, and I believe Anderson is as well (if I remember I will go grab my poverty pony and check)
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
so what happens if you go into the trigger group and file and grind on some places .. like the disconnector sear and things .. you wouldn't need a key
right ? this key card is because you don't have a switch .. safe .. semi .. full .. correct ..
right ? this key card is because you don't have a switch .. safe .. semi .. full .. correct ..
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Shushhhh!!!!! Next they're going to tell us files and grinders are machine guns.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
A shoelace and rubberbands has been determined to be a machine gun in the past. Lightning link is safe and auto only, but can be removed in seconds with no real evidence that bad things occurred.
C3D
.338 Win Mag
The PSA ones can be high or low, depending on when made. All of the Anderson's I have seen are low, I'd be interested to know if you have a high one. Spikes, Aero, CMMG, and the classic Bushmaster are all low.
Depends on the brand, but as I said the majority of the non-Colt ones are all low shelf.
Wonder when CMMG switched to low shelf
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I never heard of this Card thing, so I googled it, simple enough. Golly gee Batman, it sure does open the eye's of this old man to a whole new world of shade tree gunsmithing. 
Never knew all that stuff was out there.
Robin
Never knew all that stuff was out there.Robin
C3D
.338 Win Mag
Can't say but I've run a DIAS in a CMMG so I know that at least some of them are low shelf
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
Autokeycard.com Seized By ATF, Owner Arrested For Selling A Drawing
The ATF raided and arrested Kristopher Justin Ervin, 41, for manufacturing machine guns. Ervin did not sell or make any firearms.
www.ammoland.com
I had no idea something like this existed, thank you yet again to law enforcement and the news for bringing even more crap to the attention of the crazies.
drowhawk
.44 mag
So if I draw a picture of a nuke am I violating the NPT?
S&W Fan
.475 A&M Magnum
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