License Canceled After 50 years?

[Chevusa]

You are free to try.

PS. Anything with vague definitions like "significant amounts" is not a requirement. It's BS that can be twisted to mean whatever they want.

https://licensing.nypdonline.org/new-app-instruction/

 

[spat]

https://licensing.nypdonline.org/new-app-instruction/

So, where in there is the required dollar amount for the cash you need to carry to qualify ?

 

[masterswimmer]

So the constitution only applies to wealthy people? If he stops making a certain amount of money then he doesn’t need to protect himself?
I know this isn’t your point directly but this is what NYC says and your statement says indirectly. Sounds like a great court case to me.

Plausible!

 

[Chevusa]

So, where in there is the required dollar amount for the cash you need to carry to qualify ?

You said there were no requirements. I provided many. That was just the first of thousands of search results.

 

[spat]

You said there were no requirements. I provided many. That was just the first of thousands of search results.

No, I said there was no clear requirement vis a vis the amount of cash you have to handle to qualify.


That was the entire discussion at that point. You claimed he could no longer meet the requirements for the license, and that's why he didn't provide the documentation.


So, tell me again, which requirement in there do you think he can no longer meet ?

 

[Chevusa]

No, I said there was no clear requirement vis a vis the amount of cash you have to handle to qualify.


That was the entire discussion at that point. You claimed he could no longer meet the requirements for the license, and that's why he didn't provide the documentation.


So, tell me again, which requirement in there do you think he can no longer meet ?

I didn’t say he could no longer meet the income requirement. I said it was plausible that he could not. You really need to look up what plausible means.
You then claimed that any business with any amount of cash would meet the requirement. I do not know what the requirement is, I suspect there are a variety of factors that make up a whole, but certainly most people do not qualify based on how many actually obtained the permit. Again, I do not agree with it but I am just talking about what is and not a dream of what we would like it to be.

 

[spat]

I didn’t say he could no longer meet the income requirement. I said it was plausible that he could not. You really need to look up what plausible means.
You then claimed that any business with any amount of cash would meet the requirement. I do not know what the requirement is, I suspect there are a variety of factors that make up a whole, but certainly most people do not qualify based on how many actually obtained the permit. Again, I do not agree with it but I am just talking about what is and not a dream of what we would like it to be.

And I said there *is* no clear requirement.


You can't claim it's plausible he no longer meets it, when it doesn't exist.

 

[Chevusa]

And I said there *is* no clear requirement.


You can't claim it's plausible he no longer meets it, when it doesn't exist.

Some level of requirement does in fact exist. Just because you cannot see the oxygen doesn’t mean it’s not there.

 

[Saltwater60]

I’m sure a quick search will reveal outlined requirements.

Then do the quick search and post what you find.

 

[Chevusa]

Then do the quick search and post what you find.

Done. Read on.

 

[Chevusa]

I’m not the one claiming there are no requirements when there certainly are guidelines in place. If you want to know the specifics give them a call. It’s not my concern and I’m not the one digging for the information.

 

[Robin]

A municipality has made a law infringing on your God given rights and its not clear, concise, to the point, but fuzzy, mushy, filled with vagaries, then when called out, their representative lied? Impossible!
Robin

 

[spat]

I’m not the one claiming there are no requirements when there certainly are guidelines in place. If you want to know the specifics give them a call. It’s not my concern and I’m not the one digging for the information.

There is in fact no dollar value.

There is just the whim of the licensing officer.

That's not a requirement, it's an arbitrary and capricious infringement.

I will not waste my time calling them and spending days going around and around looking for something that doesn't exist.

You are welcome to believe in whatever other fairy tales you want, but you are essentially saying "unicorns exist, they are all over the place, just call up the DEC and ask where they are"

 

[Chevusa]

There is in fact no dollar value.

There is just the whim of the licensing officer.

That's not a requirement, it's an arbitrary and capricious infringement.

I will not waste my time calling them and spending days going around and around looking for something that doesn't exist.

You are welcome to believe in whatever other fairy tales you want, but you are essentially saying "unicorns exist, they are all over the place, just call up the DEC and ask where they are"

Huh?

Anyway… back to the topic.

 

[spat]

Some level of requirement does in fact exist. Just because you cannot see the oxygen doesn’t mean it’s not there.

What is the requirement you think he no longer meets then ?

 

[Chevusa]

What is the requirement you think he no longer meets then ?

I said it’s plausible that he no longer has the same income he once did. I also said there are likely a variety of factors that they use to determine eligibility. There surely is something they use. They aren’t spinning a wheel and seeing where it stops although you want to think that.

 

[spat]

I said it’s plausible that he no longer has the same income he once did. I also said there are likely a variety of factors that they use to determine eligibility. There surely is something they use. They aren’t spinning a wheel and seeing where it stops although you want to think that.

Oh, certainly it's plausible his income is lower.

But since there *is no income requirement* that is about as relevant as him wearing white socks, which is also plausible.


What is not plausible is that he no longer meets a cash flow standard when that standard doesn't exist.

 

[Chevusa]

Oh, certainly it's plausible his income is lower.

But since there *is no income requirement* that is about as relevant as him wearing white socks, which is also plausible.


What is not plausible is that he no longer meets a cash flow standard when that standard doesn't exist.

He wasn’t renewed and it was for a reason. They renewed him for 50 years prior. You’d need to ask him or the issuing agency if you want to know instead of me. Thanks for finally admitting my suggestion was plausible though.

 

[spat]

He wasn’t renewed and it was for a reason. They renewed him for 50 years prior. You’d need to ask him or the issuing agency if you want to know instead of me. Thanks for finally admitting my suggestion was plausible though.

We know the reason he was denied. They wanted bank statements that he refused to provide. He had provided them in the past, but not this time.

You suggested that the only possible reason he refused is that he no longer meets the requirements.

I said "how can he not meet requirements that don't exist.".

You then went off on this tangent that there *are* requirements and showed some, as if the requirement that he is not a convicted felon is somehow germain to this discussion at all.

The fact remains, there is no income requirement, so that *cannot* be the reason he didn't provide the bank statements.

 

[Chevusa]

We know the reason he was denied. They wanted bank statements that he refused to provide. He had provided them in the past, but not this time.

You suggested that the only possible reason he refused is that he no longer meets the requirements.

I said "how can he not meet requirements that don't exist.".

You then went off on this tangent that there *are* requirements and showed some, as if the requirement that he is not a convicted felon is somehow germain to this discussion at all.

The fact remains, there is no income requirement, so that *cannot* be the reason he didn't provide the bank statements.

If no requirement why the requirement for statements?

“You are not required to own yellow socks however you must submit proof of yellow socks.”

Are you listening to yourself?

 

[spat]

If no requirement why the requirement for statements?

“You are not required to own yellow socks however you must submit proof of yellow socks.”

Are you listening to yourself?

Because it's all arbitrary.

Everyone knows this.

If there is a dollar value requirement, just post it. It would be very simple to do and would end this discussion immediately.

But you can't, because it doesn't exist.

 

[Chevusa]

Because it's all arbitrary.

Everyone knows this.

If there is a dollar value requirement, just post it. It would be very simple to do and would end this discussion immediately.

But you can't, because it doesn't exist.

As stated, I think there are factors that add up to a whole. They don’t post the number because there are other things in the mix. Sure it can be arbitrary but there are boxes to check nonetheless.

 

[Robin]

Heck, the government hasn't told us what "is" is, and we are suppose to figure out how to decipher and abide by a poorly written, intentionally, unconstitutional law that was created with the sole purpose for the incremental disarmament of what will soon be subjects as opposed to citizens.
Good luck fellows, keep up the good work.
Robin

 

[Saltwater60]

There is in fact no dollar value.

There is just the whim of the licensing officer.

That's not a requirement, it's an arbitrary and capricious infringement.

I will not waste my time calling them and spending days going around and around looking for something that doesn't exist.

You are welcome to believe in whatever other fairy tales you want, but you are essentially saying "unicorns exist, they are all over the place, just call up the DEC and ask where they are"

So I’m Arizona how much cash do you need to get a license to concealed carry?
Thanks for hanging around I like your commentary.

 

[spat]

So I’m Arizona how much cash do you need to get a license to concealed carry?
Thanks for hanging around I like your commentary.

$60 for the permit.

But the permit really just gets you reciprocity and carry in places that serve alcohol.

Everywhere else they figure is just covered under the 2A.

Oh, and it takes 2 weeks to get.

 

[Saltwater60]

Could get interesting for sure. Not directly related to this case but I like where this is going.

Black NYC Public Defenders Throw Support Behind 2A

The Bronx Defenders, the Brooklyn Defender Services, and the Black Attorneys of Legal Aid filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in which they argued that New York’s “may issue” carry permit requirement is both unconstitutional and racist.

www.gunsamerica.com

 

[Chevusa]

Could get interesting for sure. Not directly related to this case but I like where this is going.

Black NYC Public Defenders Throw Support Behind 2A

The Bronx Defenders, the Brooklyn Defender Services, and the Black Attorneys of Legal Aid filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court in which they argued that New York’s “may issue” carry permit requirement is both unconstitutional and racist.

www.gunsamerica.com

Yep. Play their game. If voting regulations are racist than so must be gun regulations. Just be careful. They might make a different set of gun laws for blacks and for whites. Just like they did with Covid relief funds.