DOJ says it will 'protect' women seeking abortions in Texas

Saltwater60 · Sep 6, 2021

I’m waiting for this to happen in NYS and CA about our gun rights.

tirwin1 · Sep 6, 2021

I understand there are two points of view on this topic, but exactly when did the democrats become so absolutely crazed about abortion? It's as if they believe abortion is the single greatest right on the planet.

Grimscale · Sep 6, 2021

tirwin1 said:
I understand there are two points of view on this topic, but exactly when did the democrats become so absolutely crazed about abortion? It's as if they believe abortion is the single greatest right on the planet.

When they realized it was an effective means to reduce the non-white, non-rich population?
When they realized it was an effective means to eliminate the evidence of their activities with underage girls?

"Abortion" actually does have valid medical reasons. That it is used by the irresponsible as a means of birth control, quite frankly, doesn't mean shit to me. If they really want to abort their children then the world is probably better off. I know those children are, considering what usually becomes of unwanted kids.

Personally, I feel the Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot, again, by proselytizing and pushing their religion on others. But, whatever. It's not like we'll ever have a legitimate election again.

Toecutter · Sep 6, 2021

Grimscale said:
When they realized it was an effective means to reduce the non-white, non-rich population?
When they realized it was an effective means to eliminate the evidence of their activities with underage girls?

"Abortion" actually does have valid medical reasons. That it is used by the irresponsible as a means of birth control, quite frankly, doesn't mean shit to me. If they really want to abort their children then the world is probably better off. I know those children are, considering what usually becomes of unwanted kids.

Personally, I feel the Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot, again, by proselytizing and pushing their religion on others. But, whatever. It's not like we'll ever have a legitimate election again.

I skimmed the law it seems to have exceptions for medical and sexual assault cases. I could be wrong I don't care enough to read it all.

Its not just religion , I personally don't think abortion should be outlawed but there should be a line where life need to be preserved. Six weeks does seem to be a short time to act.

Dr. Evil · Sep 6, 2021

livingston said:
DOJ says it will 'protect' women seeking abortions in Texas

The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Monday said it will protect women who are seeking abortions in the state of Texas amid turmoil following the passage of a controversial restrictive abortion law in the state.

In a press release, Attorney General Merrick Garland said the department will explore “all options” to challenge the new Texas law, adding that they will provide support for women in the Lone Star State who are still seeking abortions.

“The department will provide support from federal law enforcement when an abortion clinic or reproductive health center is under attack. We have reached out to U.S. Attorneys’ Offices and FBI field offices in Texas and across the country to discuss our enforcement authorities,” Garland said in the statement.

The legislation, which was signed by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) placed an effective ban on almost all abortions once a fetal heartbeat is detected, which is normally six weeks into a pregnancy.

DOJ says it will ‘protect’ women seeking abortions in Texas

The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Monday said it will protect women who are seeking abortions in the state of Texas amid turmoil following the passage of a controversial restrictive abortion …

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This they'll do something for. Voter fraud, meh. Also, conflicts with their, "If it just saves one life" mantra.

spat · Sep 6, 2021

Too bad the feds aren't as concerned with the rights of American citizens that they abandoned in Afghanistan.

Pretty sure they're facing a lot more serious oppression.

SomeSoldier · Sep 6, 2021

But they won't protect our constitutional rights.

CaseHardened · Sep 7, 2021

Personally I believe society is better off when the unsuited abort their offspring.

We need as few KAREN-JUNIORS as possible.

But it does concern me when the Law of the Land - SCOTUS - can be ignored.

Grimscale · Sep 7, 2021

Toecutter said:
I personally don't think abortion should be outlawed but there should be a line where life need to be preserved. Six weeks does seem to be a short time to act.

I've always suggested that abortion should be treated in this fashion (exceptions given for medical and sexual assault cases):
1st trimester = anything goes. If you don't want it, get rid of it. It's YOUR responsibility to deal with any repercussions (ie: inability to carry to term when you DO want it, infertility, etc.). If you can't decide in 3 months, maybe you shouldn't be having it anyway?

2nd tirmester = let's start requiring some reasons why it is being asked for. Let's also require at least two doctors to sign off on it. And, hey, we can add background checks and waiting periods as well, just to bring this into line with other actual Rights. You've had 6 months to come up with a reasonable reason for it. Thus:

3rd trimester = unless it is dead or you are about to be, fuck off. Pop it out and put it up for adoption. I'm sure all those Republicans fighting to have each and every fetus come to term would be more than happy to take care of your mistake. Every life is precious, right? If you can't decide after 6 months, three more isn't that big a deal. And while we're in there, we're tying your tubes so you no longer are a burden on society.

Saltwater60 · Sep 7, 2021

tirwin1 said:
I understand there are two points of view on this topic, but exactly when did the democrats become so absolutely crazed about abortion? It's as if they believe abortion is the single greatest right on the planet.

It’s is. If there are no people being born then we can save the world right?

spat · Sep 7, 2021

Grimscale said:
I've always suggested that abortion should be treated in this fashion (exceptions given for medical and sexual assault cases):
1st trimester = anything goes. If you don't want it, get rid of it. It's YOUR responsibility to deal with any repercussions (ie: inability to carry to term when you DO want it, infertility, etc.). If you can't decide in 3 months, maybe you shouldn't be having it anyway?

2nd tirmester = let's start requiring some reasons why it is being asked for. Let's also require at least two doctors to sign off on it. And, hey, we can add background checks and waiting periods as well, just to bring this into line with other actual Rights. You've had 6 months to come up with a reasonable reason for it. Thus:

3rd trimester = unless it is dead or you are about to be, fuck off. Pop it out and put it up for adoption. I'm sure all those Republicans fighting to have each and every fetus come to term would be more than happy to take care of your mistake. Every life is precious, right? If you can't decide after 6 months, three more isn't that big a deal. And while we're in there, we're tying your tubes so you no longer are a burden on society.

What we really need to do is stop regulating abortion *at all*.

We just need a clear and unambiguous legal definition for the beginning of a human life. Everything else follows logically after that.

Before it's a separate human, then it's just unwanted tissue in the mother. Legally like getting a mole removed.

After it becomes an actual human, then mother and child are legally the same as conjoined twins. You don't get to just kill off your sister because you don’t want to share a spine with her anymore, right ?

Like everything else, we make this far to complicated, because people don't like the obvious answers.

Acer-m14 · Sep 8, 2021

how about .. if you cant keep your legs crossed .. or use a condom and the pill or other means .. you pay for it and not me

Acer-m14 · Sep 8, 2021

Grimscale said:
I've always suggested that abortion should be treated in this fashion (exceptions given for medical and sexual assault cases):
1st trimester = anything goes. If you don't want it, get rid of it. It's YOUR responsibility to deal with any repercussions (ie: inability to carry to term when you DO want it, infertility, etc.). If you can't decide in 3 months, maybe you shouldn't be having it anyway?

2nd tirmester = let's start requiring some reasons why it is being asked for. Let's also require at least two doctors to sign off on it. And, hey, we can add background checks and waiting periods as well, just to bring this into line with other actual Rights. You've had 6 months to come up with a reasonable reason for it. Thus:

3rd trimester = unless it is dead or you are about to be, fuck off. Pop it out and put it up for adoption. I'm sure all those Republicans fighting to have each and every fetus come to term would be more than happy to take care of your mistake. Every life is precious, right? If you can't decide after 6 months, three more isn't that big a deal. And while we're in there, we're tying your tubes so you no longer are a burden on society.

"And while we're in there, we're tying your tubes so you no longer are a burden on society."

on this i have heard from people male and female over the yrs .. asking to tie the tubes .. or i want a vasectomy for the guys .. and the docs say your to young for that choice .. give it a few more years .. and there over 21 yrs old to begin with ..

meketrefe · Sep 8, 2021

It is for the children!

DOJ says it will 'protect' women seeking abortions in Texas

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