Uninformed and Compliant
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.mil types fly commercial as first resort. It's quite the fuck-ton of cash for those airlines.
United fires almost 600 workers for not getting the jab.
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meketrefe
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Isnt a vaccine or anything a voluntary thing?. My opinion is that the vaccine is ok but also find it abusive that if someone does not want the vaccine they have a right to decide. This is not like the no vax polio loons or worse anyway and people know it.
Everyone should boicott united.
I will never fly with them again.
Everyone should boicott united.
I will never fly with them again.
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govt contracts .. .. how many govt bail out did the airlines get over the years
meketrefe
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If they sue the airlines are going to loose.
holdover
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Thats all fine and good, but if they mandate it they are responsible for any and all costs due to side effects. Dont like it? Dont mandate it.
And they will immediately reply "there are none" with a self satisfied smirk.
You are talking about people who are not dealing in reality. Their feeble minds cannot grasp anything outside what their masters decree.
holdover
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Not anti vaxer, freedom fighter. What these pro vax nazis dont understand is that they are setting the precedent for mandates which will sooner or later come back and bite them in the ass when they are mandated to do something they dont think is right.
Once the freedom of choice is removed, You have no choice at all. This is what tyranny looks like. Its Anti American , Anti freedom, unconstitutional.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves -William pitt
1.5 years and they are still mandating under a code of emergency.
Once the freedom of choice is removed, You have no choice at all. This is what tyranny looks like. Its Anti American , Anti freedom, unconstitutional.
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves -William pitt
1.5 years and they are still mandating under a code of emergency.
Deplorable Me
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They denied Agent Orange was a problem for years. I know a guy who died from it and a guy who had a kid with birth defects. The guy Dave was a local spokeman until the day he died of cancer related to it.
Deplorable Me
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Natural immunity and herd immunity will set in early next year if Covid follows the same pattern as the Spanish Flu. It'll just go away. Then the bastards will take credit for what nature has done.
holdover
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Yes, normally your correct, it would. But its not gonna happen. ""Surprise New variant!!" And we live under a government that rules by mandates.
No fucking way are they giving up that kind of power. And the morons are going along with it , selling their freedoms for perceived safety.
How much would it be worth to a government to control the health of the population? Say If you dont keep getting your boosters, your going to get sick, How much is that worth? The most valuable thing a person has is his health, and they control it.
This is the new normal? they were telling us the truth.
Bob
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Check out nextstrain.org. They do global surveillance of pathogen evolution. Basically, they crowdsource and map genome data and look at new and emerging trends in viruses.
When Cuomo said "It was coming from Europe and nobody told us" he was full of shit. Apparently none of his people knew how to read a map. Some of us were watching what it was doing in near real-time.
Of the samples that they've sourced, the Delta variant accounts for >99%. The original Alpha variant accounts for <1%. What they were referring to as the Lambda variant is virtually non-existent and in all likelihood won't get legs and go anywhere. There is no new variant of concern on the horizon. This thing is gonna burn out very soon.
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holdover
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I agree with 99% of what you said except for the burning out part. Ill put money on it. If you ask me, it already burned out, but they wont let it die. Something new and more freighting will be coming around the corner. the vaccine passport isn't just going to go away . They need a virus in order to justify a passport . For Christ's sake, they are forcing people out of work at this point in time. I cant see them saying "'never mind were good"" go back to work.
If you guys think this shit is going away, your behind the power curve.
If you guys think this shit is going away, your behind the power curve.
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Uninformed and Compliant
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I've noticed that it "not going away", with people being orphaned from any livelihood, is EXACTLY the argument they've been failing to make with tech advances and min wage increases putting people out of work - except now it's "muh virus".
A good chunk of the shills pushing the "new normal" are the same ones conspiring for some "universal basic income" crap. "Muh new normal" is a convenient argument for it.
Yes, And it shall be called Malburg. Don't fall for it! They won't release the control they have. Anyone who put any trust in Government is not to bright.
24 hours later and not a single update. That is how all these fake news websites work; everything is BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!! with no follow up, ever.
I work in the Defense & Aerospace Industry. Yesterday one of our Directors announced that on Dec. 8th, the Federal Gov't would be releasing the mandate for vaccines that will force not only all employees of the Defense Company be vaccinated or get terminated, but also all employees of any subcontractors to get the jab or a) the employee will be terminated, or b) the subcontractor will be suspended from any Gov't Contract work.
It's too f**king late to "suppose" that they're going full Socialist. It is happening right now. Openly and without any significant push-back from any of our elected representatives. Our LEADERS are doing whatever they want. We're screwed.
It's too f**king late to "suppose" that they're going full Socialist. It is happening right now. Openly and without any significant push-back from any of our elected representatives. Our LEADERS are doing whatever they want. We're screwed.
they are going to provide flight numbers and the works. we shall see. Breaking news!!! was coined by MSM.. who are you kidding?
It‘s just click bait. Don‘t hold your breathe.
No they aren't. Jobs have requirements. For example... a college degree. They aren't responsible for paying for your degree by having it as a employment requirement. If you don't like your employers job requirements you can go to a company that has requirements to your liking. You're also free to start your own company and set any requirements you like.
holdover
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Thats a terrible analogy, If they make you, and you get sick because of it. they should be held liable. If they are the cause they are responsible.
If Injure I you, I'm responsible. If your boss injures you, He's responsible.
Sooner or later you will not be able to just find another place to work because its being forced on the company's and the people who work there.
To say that the only person liable is the one who was forced to get it is absurd on its face. and it conflicts with all liability law.and its in direct violation of the HIPPA laws to even ask.
If Injure I you, I'm responsible. If your boss injures you, He's responsible.
Sooner or later you will not be able to just find another place to work because its being forced on the company's and the people who work there.
To say that the only person liable is the one who was forced to get it is absurd on its face. and it conflicts with all liability law.and its in direct violation of the HIPPA laws to even ask.
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holdover
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News flash! They're fucking in on it.
spat
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If your job requires you to work in an asbestos filled facility, and you get mesothelioma, then you absolutely can sue your employer.
I also highly doubt the employment contract these people signed had any mention of mandatory vaccinations.
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Deplorable Me
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Judge bars United from putting unvaccinated workers on leave
United Airlines employees who are suing the airline over its vaccine mandate will get more time to make their case
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They aren't making you do it. It's not like they are holding you down and sticking a needle in your arm. You can quit and go elsewhere if you don't like it. Start your own business, you can set the requirements - no vaccine, no problem. Heck, you could even make a rule, no vaccinated employees. Your business, your rules.
You can sue your employer, but unless you proved their negligence such as not providing proper PPE or proper training for the hazmat, you'd lose. Just getting mesothelioma alone isn't enough to hold a party guilty, you'd need to prove that they caused it.
Court affirms dismissal of verdict against Ford in asbestos case
New Yorks highest court on Tuesday affirmed dismissal of an $11 million jury verdict against Ford Motor Co. in connection with an auto mechanics death from asbestosis.
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Form of Discrimination. They are "Cherry" picking what to prove vaccination against. Maybe myself as an employee do not feel safe because every employee is not required to show Proof of vaccination of say the..... Flu! Thousands die of it!
jimc
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I would also like to add that if they are trying to 'protect their employees' by requiring the vaccine, they're targeting the wrong group. Most people who die from covid are well beyond working age.
There is a global pandemic. There is vaccine for the virus causing that pandemic. This vaccine is FDA approved. Setting an employment requirement that requires you to be vaccinated against an active pandemic isn't "cherry picking". It's a specific requirement against a pandemic threat, sort of like requiring your CDLs to not drive the trucks while drunk - it's specific, but not cherry picking.
My position on this comes from how I view private property and the rights of a private entity. Personally, I don't care if you are or aren't vaccinated - that choice should be yours. However, I also think the rights of a private business are that they should be able to set any requirement they wish. I'm against any vaccine mandates or requirements for publicly funded employees, however the rights of a private business to set requirements should be observed, regardless of my agreement or disagreement of their requirements. Private entity rights > my (or your) position on any particular topic.
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Not FDA approved. Comirnaty was approved which is NOT anywhere in the U.S.
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