CZ is not looking to good right now.

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The only banned guns that the Canadian gov't has received have been those that were in stock at gun shops. The first thing the ban legislation did was to prevent dealers from selling any banned item that they had in stock. This amounts to about 12,000 guns. Those guns were shipped to an address in Kitchener, Ontario that happens to be a reasonably short distance from Colt Canada. This is where the whole speculation of Colt CZ Group's involvement began. No proof of anything, just "Hey look - the address where dealers had to send their banned stock is close to Colt Canada ! They must be involved !"

From the beginning, Canada Post has refused to be involved. Alberta Provincial police have refused. Manitoba. Saskatchewan. NWT. And on and on. Alberta and Saskatchewan have gone so far as to legislate their defiance to the ban.

The pilot program of confiscation that the Libs in Ottawa are going to try will be on a small island , part of Nova Scotia where the police chief is all for the ban. The problem is, his officers are not on board and a vote of no confidence is about to remove him. Even on an isolated island this plan isn't turning out the way the liberal government envisioned.
 
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Can we quit eating our own ?
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Oh no, we're Judge, Jury, and executioner when it comes to our own...look at the shit dished out to that Gun Dealer (1 of 3 with action taken against their business) how quickly folks were to have him drawn and quartered.
BTW: thanks for Secede v. succeed...I know the difference, but did not apply the correct word, it's what happens when you're a shithead like me.
 
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The only banned guns that the Canadian gov't has received have been those that were in stock at gun shops. The first thing the ban legislation did was to prevent dealers from selling any banned item that they had in stock. This amounts to about 12,000 guns. Those guns were shipped to an address in Kitchener, Ontario that happens to be a reasonably short distance from Colt Canada. This is where the whole speculation of Colt CZ Group's involvement began. No proof of anything, just "Hey look - the address where dealers had to send their banned stock is close to Colt Canada ! They must be involved !"

From the beginning, Canada Post has refused to be involved. Alberta Provincial police have refused. Manitoba. Saskatchewan. NWT. And on and on. Alberta and Saskatchewan have gone so far as to legislate their defiance to the ban.

The pilot program of confiscation that the Libs in Ottawa are going to try will be on a small island , part of Nova Scotia where the police chief is all for the ban. The problem is, his officers are not on board and a vote of no confidence is about to remove him. Even on an isolated island this plan isn't turning out the way the liberal government envisioned.
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Sounds like NY when Cuomo shoved the SAFE Act up our asses....he said there were Millions of AW's in NY and only 43K registrations ever happened (that includes Magazines that were eventually made completely illegal) of those Registrations, many were LEO that were ordered to comply or risk losing their State Jobs and Retirement.
 
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Hmm.. fangirling CZ pistols as significantly as I have over so many years is definitely feeling a little.. icky.. as of right now.
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Loyalty pledge or coercion from the government: S&W had their beat down with the then Secretary of HUD Cuomo, Ruger with his "hi-cap Magazines equate to assault weapons", Colt and their refusal to sell AR-15's to the Public, along with how many threats of or actual lawsuits and other public actions against smaller Manufacturers, now CZ is the newest boogie-man and well they may be, but we've nothing contactable as of yet, just accusations and suspicions.
 
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Glock wants more gun laws, CZ wants to destroy guns takin away from their owners. Ruger went against us years ago with the mags. Doesn`t seem like any gun companies are helping us, yet we keep giving them our hard earned money. Sure don`t smell like much of any winning for us, to me.
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In Rugers defense, that was Bill Ruger. Sinse then the current owners have said MANY times that is NOT their current stance. Being able to buy magazines of all types, and rifles from Ruger, marketed to civilians is pretty good proof. I have 3 Rugers, so im no fan boy, but fair is fair.
 
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Glock wants more gun laws, CZ wants to destroy guns takin away from their owners. Ruger went against us years ago with the mags. Doesn`t seem like any gun companies are helping us, yet we keep giving them our hard earned money. Sure don`t smell like much of any winning for us, to me.
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Ironically, Hi-Point is very pro 2a. The owners have spoken out against anti gun topics several times.
 
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More updates on the Canadian "buyback".....and they aint good for the politicians.




Cliffnotes version: Yukon Territories refuses to assist in any confiscation efforts, Saskatchewan passes bill forcing the Feds to pay for every confiscated gun, and the pilot program launched in Cape Breton Island was a dismal failure, resulting in the police chief's resignation.
 
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Ironically, Hi-Point is very pro 2a. The owners have spoken out against anti gun topics several times.
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PSA also. They have a case they filed suing the .gov over the NFA.

When the .gov told them to modify their PSA Daggers so that Glock switches won't work, instead of making a new Gen of them, they told the gov to F off and did nothing.

That's about as good as we can hope for.

PSA might arguably be the most staunchly pro gun, gun company.


This is PSAs mission statement direct from their website:

Our mission is to maximize freedom, not our profits. We want to sell as many AR-15 and AK-47 rifles as we can and put them into common use in America today. Our focus isn't to make massive amounts of money but to spread freedom as far and wide as possible. Our legacy will not be about money; we want our legacy to be about maximizing American Freedom. And we work every day to do just that. We make high-quality firearms at affordable prices for everyone! Then we back them with a Full Lifetime Warranty.​

 
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Another update on the Canadian confiscation... super-short version: guy has a hard time turning in two lower receivers, then he only receives half of the posted value that he was supposed to be paid. ( Didn't see that coming...NOT ! )

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He Tried the Pilot Program and Got Robbed!! - Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights

Recently, we spoke to a disgruntled gun owner who posted about his experience participating in the Cape Breton Pilot Program for the Liberal gun grab. In a post on CGN, "David" posted this; "I’m gonna start off by saying you can hate me, judge me or even insult I do not care. It was my […]
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Another update on the Canadian confiscation... super-short version: guy has a hard time turning in two lower receivers, then he only receives half of the posted value that he was supposed to be paid. ( Didn't see that coming...NOT ! )

firearmrights.ca

He Tried the Pilot Program and Got Robbed!! - Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights

Recently, we spoke to a disgruntled gun owner who posted about his experience participating in the Cape Breton Pilot Program for the Liberal gun grab. In a post on CGN, "David" posted this; "I’m gonna start off by saying you can hate me, judge me or even insult I do not care. It was my […]
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Gotta deduct "administration fees" we pay to ourselves out of what you though you were going to get"....there IS a solution, but it's not civil and not without a lot of bloodshed that the Liberals will use as justification for even more heavy handiness...I'm proud of Alberta for telling Ottawa to fuck off, come back when you'll play by our rules.
 
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Gotta deduct "administration fees" we pay to ourselves out of what you though you were going to get"....there IS a solution, but it's not civil and not without a lot of bloodshed that the Liberals will use as justification for even more heavy handiness...I'm proud of Alberta for telling Ottawa to fuck off, come back when you'll play by our rules.
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Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Yukon Territories are creating big problems for those in Ottawa. Those 3 provinces are blatently telling the Liberals to take their confiscation scheme and shove it up their ass. Good on them !

The story I linked is from the pilot program that was held in Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia. This was one man's experience with the [Ahem..] "buyback". The pilot program anticipated the recovery of 200 banned weapons. In the end, they recovered LESS THAN TWO DOZEN. The guy in the story is responsible for two of them ! One of my posts above has the story detailing the pilot program's unbelievable "success".

The whole program has always been a scam. They never intended to compensate anyone. There was never a promise to compensate, only a statement that you MIGHT get compensated... but that would be on a first come first served basis...soooo.....turn your guns in now before the money runs out, or you'll get nothing !
 
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Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Yukon Territories are creating big problems for those in Ottawa. Those 3 provinces are blatently telling the Liberals to take their confiscation scheme and shove it up their ass. Good on them !

The story I linked is from the pilot program that was held in Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia. This was one man's experience with the [Ahem..] "buyback". The pilot program anticipated the recovery of 200 banned weapons. In the end, they recovered LESS THAN TWO DOZEN. The guy in the story is responsible for two of them ! One of my posts above has the story detailing the pilot program's unbelievable "success".

The whole program has always been a scam. They never intended to compensate anyone. There was never a promise to compensate, only a statement that you MIGHT get compensated... but that would be on a first come first served basis...soooo.....turn your guns in now before the money runs out, or you'll get nothing !
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admittedly, most of the information I see on Alberta is Premier Daniella Smith speaking, or perhaps I should say "Bitch Slapping" Ottawa, and residents speaking their minds and dangerously posting it to FB...POTUS knows what's going on up there and it would be glorious for them to join the United States...democrats would shit themselves.
 
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True....Ruger did us wrong back with the magazine thing. I remember that now...They are/were my favorite too?! damn none do us right.......They all bend at the chance to be the militaries provider?! or make them happy so they can supply/sell to them why else would they support anti 2a crap?!
 
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The Canadian People do NOT have any constitutional RIGHTS to Arms!

So who cares what's going on up there in tinsel town? This is the same govt that maliciously pursued the activist who staged that demonstration (truckers) who shut the place down up there (if I recall correctly), etc., etc.

Would any of you give a shit if CZ did the same in Australia? The UK? No of course not... Well in my opinion anyways.
 
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Colt / CZ has terminated it's contract with the Canadian gov't. for the destruction of newly confiscated weapons. The Province of Quebec is now taking on the task of destruction for the nation.

Right now, following a disastrous pilot program in Nova Scotia, the "buyback" is in the process of being rolled out for all of Canada. The Canadian gov't is changing the words it uses to describe the new law, in that they are finally beginning to admit that this is not "voluntary" as they described it in the recent past. They are also admitting that compensation is not guaranteed.

The Province of Manitoba is joining Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Yukon Territories in telling Ottawa that they won't participate. Good for them !
 
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