MTA, NYC on strike stranding people in NYC

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I love it. No raises since 2022 why wouldn’t they go on strike? Highest inflationary period they have seen and no raises. I guess the good thing is the democrats finally are admitting the laws of economics apply. If they raise wages fairs will need to increase as well. I’m shocked by this. Of course the MTA head says they are the highest paid railroad workers in the country so they don’t need a raise. Has anyone considered they live in the highest priced city in the USA?

I don’t know the details but I love how the democrats always say pay your workers, but then they do not provide raises to their own.

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Long Island Rail Road workers go on strike after MTA, unions fail to reach new contract

The work stoppage, the LIRR's first since 1994, went into effect after the MTA and five unions representing 3,500 workers failed to reach a deal on a new four-year contract.
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Things seem to be going well in the NYC experiment. Strange the working class on this city haven’t gotten a cost of living raise from the people always talking about the people. Remember, Communism is all about a ruling class with dependent peasants to provide the labor; eliminating middle class.
 
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Many of the Railroad employees i run into are some of the laziest people ive seen. Its literally like a mafia where they milk the tax payers for money to do little work. I have no use for unions for government employees. I see it first hand as a contractor that works hand in hand with MTA workers on a regular basis.

Its more like a welfare system where they assign 8 people to do a 1 man job, that the tax payers pay for. Its very poorly managed, and wasting tax dollars beyond belief.
 
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Celt said:
Many of the Railroad employees i run into are some of the laziest people ive seen. Its literally like a mafia where they milk the tax payers for money to do little work. I have no use for unions for government employees. I see it first hand as a contractor that works hand in hand with MTA workers on a regular basis.

Its more like a welfare system where they assign 8 people to do a 1 man job, that the tax payers pay for. Its very poorly managed, and wasting tax dollars beyond belief.
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You have no idea how bad it really is. Back around 1980 , a couple friends got jobs with the NYC transit and a couple other rail systems. One of them worked a "track work" train. They would start at 8am. Get to the station where they would load and board the work tarin. sit and have coffee etc til the train pulled out at 9. Got to the location about 11, work an hour or so and go to lunch, get back at 1 or 2, usually drunk, "work" til 3 when they had to pack up and head back.... and get an hour OT unloading the train just to load it up again the next morning. There was, and probably still is a big heroin problem in all the rail systems. I had friends that worked Amtrak, conrail, LIRR and NYC transit that were stone cold junkies. When they get caught they would just get sent to the farm and back to work. All three of them had multiple incidents. One guy, after the first time he got sent to the farm he got back and they gave him a job in the tower, cutting power when the crew called in a location, yep, he nodded out at the switch and a guy on the track got zapped, didnt die but got real fucked up. Think they fired him? Nope, farm and back to work. I have more stories, but you get the idea.
 
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Celt said:
Many of the Railroad employees i run into are some of the laziest people ive seen. Its literally like a mafia where they milk the tax payers for money to do little work. I have no use for unions for government employees. I see it first hand as a contractor that works hand in hand with MTA workers on a regular basis.

Its more like a welfare system where they assign 8 people to do a 1 man job, that the tax payers pay for. Its very poorly managed, and wasting tax dollars beyond belief.
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This is very possible. If true they should work to rectify this. However, not giving people raises for 5 years is not ok. If they are bad employees they should be removed.
 
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Will this be called an “illegal and unsanctioned WILDCAT strike!” too?
 
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stokes said:
Really has nothing to do with NYC directly. The LI RR is state run and only terminates in NYC. It mainly serves Nassau and Suffolk counties.
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The majority of riders don’t take it to and from local stops on LI’s Nassau and Suffolk counties. It primarily serves people living on LI and who work in New York City.
 
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stokes said:
Really has nothing to do with NYC directly. The LI RR is state run and only terminates in NYC. It mainly serves Nassau and Suffolk counties.
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Okay, when the great reckoning comes, NYC can have those counties too. we will take the good citizens from that area that prefer to not live under the thumb of communism in exchange for the populations of Rochester, Syracuse, Albany. Niagara Falls, and we will throw in Ithaca at no extra charge.
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VietnamEraVet said:
The majority of riders don’t take it to and from local stops on LI’s Nassau and Suffolk counties. It primarily serves people living on LI and who work in New York City.
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Yes, thats why I said "nothing to do with NYC directly". Its mainly a commuter line for Nassau and Suffolk counties. Not NYC residents. The title says "MTA, NYC on strike...." The MTA in NYC is not on strike..... yet.
 
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The overall average annual pay for Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) employees is approximately \(\$98,000\)
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And that’s likely near poverty for NYC area. I think wages should keep up with inflation. It’s a joke they haven’t received a raise in the past 5 years because it would cause an 8% increase in fairs. Oh well. An 8% increase in 5 years because of wage increases ain’t much. People either want the train or they don’t. If they can’t afford an 8% increase then the train isn’t very important to them.
In 2015-2023 the fair was $2.75
In 2024 it went up to $2.90
Then it’s now $3.00.
The raise would make it $3.25. I’m sure they can handle it.
 
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Celt said:
Many of the Railroad employees i run into are some of the laziest people ive seen. Its literally like a mafia where they milk the tax payers for money to do little work. I have no use for unions for government employees. I see it first hand as a contractor that works hand in hand with MTA workers on a regular basis.

Its more like a welfare system where they assign 8 people to do a 1 man job, that the tax payers pay for. Its very poorly managed, and wasting tax dollars beyond belief.
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There was a news expose a few years back exposing the rampant Disability Fraud and how many "employees" were out on permanent disability making more money than if the were working, even some that (surprise) were working other Jobs while out.
One thing from working in a Union Bargained Shop and visiting (for work) other Union Shops is they are too often the laziest, stupidest, narrow minded, won't touch anybody else's work entitled fucks imaginable...Granted they're not all that way, and Unions DO have their place, but some are the reason Businesses fold up.
 
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Okay, when the great reckoning comes, NYC can have those counties too. we will take the good citizens from that area that prefer to not live under the thumb of communism in exchange for the populations of Rochester, Syracuse, Albany. Niagara Falls, and we will throw in Ithaca at no extra charge.
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I had always hoped that cayuga lake would swallow Ithaca one day, and cornell university as well.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
And that’s likely near poverty for NYC area. I think wages should keep up with inflation. It’s a joke they haven’t received a raise in the past 5 years because it would cause an 8% increase in fairs. Oh well. An 8% increase in 5 years because of wage increases ain’t much. People either want the train or they don’t. If they can’t afford an 8% increase then the train isn’t very important to them.
In 2015-2023 the fair was $2.75
In 2024 it went up to $2.90
Then it’s now $3.00.
The raise would make it $3.25. I’m sure they can handle it.
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You do understand that the MTA is heavily funded by NY taxes, right?

They get bailed out each and every year.

I guess they are more important than the millions being overtaxed in the State.

BTW, they are more than on par with the rest of the city.

The average wage in New York City is approximately \(\$99,000\)

The median salary in New York City is approximately $70,000 to $76,000 for individual workers, while the median household income is around $85,970.
 
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GOPerfect said:
You do understand that the MTA is heavily funded by NY taxes, right?

They get bailed out each and every year.

I guess they are more important than the millions being overtaxed in the State.

BTW, they are more than on par with the rest of the city.

The average wage in New York City is approximately \(\$99,000\)

The median salary in New York City is approximately $70,000 to $76,000 for individual workers, while the median household income is around $85,970.
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This is why I support raising fairs to pay for it. Either let it be self sufficient or collapse.
I’m pushing for this for a recreation thing in my town as well. We have a pool that costs us a fortune. It’s $50 for a season pass for a family. They want to dump $4 million into it and we are already short $2.5 million. Not wise. Costs us $120,000 to run the pool for 7 weeks. Make it self sufficient or shut it down. Same with the MTA.
I’m not advocating for it to fall on tax payers but it’s unfair to not give people raises for many years especially when these idiots keep pushing for higher wages. It’s a quarter a fare. I’m sure they can afford it.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
This is why I support raising fairs to pay for it. Either let it be self sufficient or collapse.
I’m pushing for this for a recreation thing in my town as well. We have a pool that costs us a fortune. It’s $50 for a season pass for a family. They want to dump $4 million into it and we are already short $2.5 million. Not wise. Costs us $120,000 to run the pool for 7 weeks. Make it self sufficient or shut it down. Same with the MTA.
I’m not advocating for it to fall on tax payers but it’s unfair to not give people raises for many years especially when these idiots keep pushing for higher wages. It’s a quarter a fare. I’m sure they can afford it.
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There will come a day, their checkbook will be taken away from them. When you have a spending problem with other peoples money, other people tend to get pissed off and start slappin the thievery down. Its gonna be a long time before that happens in NYS though. Still to many stupid people.
 
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GOPerfect said:
I learned a lot about MTA from a former forum member that was banned years ago. I cannot think of his handle....
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Would it be Marine Cpl ?

He originally had a different username here, and later on he changed it to Marine Cpl.
Then he lost his shit during COVID, was freaking out in the Coronavirus thread, and got banned.

I'm not sure if that's who you're referring to, but he came to mind while reading your post.
 
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