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US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)
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Yep!
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
This is correct. The problem is, this cant be done by air alone. its going to require a real war on the ground. Thats where we part ways . I find it morally, ethically, financially wrong on every level , right now it looks like preparations are being made just for that
Honestly, I think Iran will acquire nuclear weapons by some means before any invasion can take place (roughly 1-2 years) I see it as a race to get an invasion force up and ready vs Iran obtaining a nuke and demonstrating it
Russia and China have a decision to make , allow the US take over Iran and the straights controlling the flow of oil , and the mid east fore the next 50 years plus , or supply Iran with the percusors to make nuclear weapons or the weapons themselves .
Pakistan has already offered Iran nuclear weapons . Personally I think its way to late , at this point its a fools errand . The only way Iran comes out of this , is by obtaining nuke s or die . They are backed into a corner , only one way out for them .
spat
.950 JDJ
We could hold them off indefinitely, but it would take a fresh midnight hammer every 6 months to a year.
They would just wait it out until there is an administration that doesn't have the balls to do that.
They'd get another democrat to sent them a plane load of cash in exchange for pinky swearing not to build nukes, again. Then when the Isrealis show that they are building them anyway the democrats would accuse them of lying until Tel Aviv glows in the dark.
In theory you could destroy enriched uranium by mixing in enough depleted uranium to basically "un-enrich" it. This is easy in a factory setting, but not sure if a bomb could mix them well enough.
You are probably right about a "boots on the ground" approach being necessary to take it.
The alternative is to keep forcing regime changes until we get an Ayatolla who'd rather live than be a nuclear power. Seems to have worked in Venezuela.
Probably the best solution is to just keep destroying the IRGC until they end up with a power vacuum.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Me thinks they will obtain ready to use weapons, If it looks like the west is amassing an army , somebody will most likely sell give them a few dozen
spat
.950 JDJ
That would be the end of whoever did it, and everyone knows that.
Nobody is going to give a nuclear weapon to anyone they even suspect might use it.
Knowledge, sure. Equipment to refine your own, sure. But never any actual nuclear material let alone a bomb.
Imagine what happens if Iran or one of their proxies detonated a Chinese or Pakistani nuke in one of their neighbors cities. That would be the end of the nuclear program for the source country, and possibly the whole country.
What would Russia do if we gave Ukraine a couple nukes and they used them ?
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When South Africa was being dissolved they gave their nuclear (atomic) weapons to Israel.
Before that, nobody knew South Africa had atomic weapons.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
That makes sense. They don’t want it to go on forever, but they want Iran gone. I don’t blame them and I honestly wouldn’t be sad if that happened either with their history. However, I did not get that from your post so thanks for clearing that up.
Steal2B
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holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I disagree.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
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According to the google machine, your prices are a bit off, according to national averages…
Obama was as high as $4.98
Biden was was as high as $5.01
Trump is currently at $4.51
The highest national average gas price during the Obama administration occurred in 2012, when regular unleaded reached a peak of \(\$3.96\)
The national average price for regular gasoline peaked at a record high of $5.016 per gallon on June 14, 2022, during Joe Biden's presidency
Gas prices under Donald Trump peaked at a national average of $4.53 per gallon in May 2026,
Yes, this will be a problem to people who aren't paying attention.
I'm working on proactively buying some 0-w20 oil "just in case".
Brawny71
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Depends on where you look I guess. We will be happy to know Trump stated it will come way down.. lol
spat
.950 JDJ
Everybody knew. It was not a secret.
Vela incident - Wikipedia Vela incident - Wikipedia
The instant any nuclear weapon is detonated anywhere on earth it's exact location and characteristics are known.
The only way to have a secret nuclear program would be to somehow keep a major industry either enriching uranium or making plutonium secret. We're talking about an industry employing tens of thousands of people with massive facilities.
Then you need to *never* test your weapons and still trust that they will work.
When north korea conducted their first test, an *underground* test no less, we flew sampling planes close enough to fully characterize the isotope ratio so we could verify if it was their own or if they had material from anyone else.
There is no way to give someone nuclear material that they use in a bomb and not have everyone know exactly where it came from, right down to which mines the uranium came from and which facilities refined it.
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spat
.950 JDJ
It's a free country, you can be as wrong as you want.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Claiming a tit-for-tat reprisal for Iran strikes on US allies (UAE, Saudi Arabia)
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holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I concur.
I don't see how we avoid more hostilies. Iran will refuse to bend the knee as long as the IRGC is in charge. It remains to be seen what the outcome of the china summit was but I didn't get the sense the Chinese were going to help us much.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
The Chinese will never help us. They want world domination and we are standing in their way. What the Chinese want is exactly what the left is giving them… the USA going to hell and losing ground.
Beerman
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House majority? Senate majority? President? Don’t blame too much on “the left” or else you end up giving them far more credit for being an unstoppable force who have politically outmaneuvered the Republicans time and time again, since a fully Republican dominated federal government is powerless to counteract the left’s work. The ‘Publicans could do nearly ANYTHING they actually want to do right now, and the Dems couldn’t do a thing to stop it, with a few exceptions. So, whatever ain't gettin’ done right now, ask yourself, “Why?” Sure, that’s a bit of an oversimplification of things, but it’s not pure fiction, either.
China wants to pass us and overtake us as the global superpower without direct military conflict in the process.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
It has nothing to do with who is in charge right now. Our governors and senators have Chinese's spies working with them, leading parts of the country, and sleeping with powerful people.
We are using massive amounts of solar, 85% of solar is made in China - more money = more power.
Then we have shutdown almost all mining and exploration in the USA because of environmental regulations. Now China owned and produces tons of lithium and components to make battery powered everything. Again, China is the world leader in this tech.
Next up we have the neodymium magnets every piece of tech needs to run. We had the market cornered until environmental dogooders made the place in California making them go bankrupt. Well surprise, surprise, China bought the company and the rights to all their R&D.
This is happening all over. China does almost no R&D and relies on us being too good for our own good and saying oh we can’t do that here because it’s too pollutive. Then China swoops in and buys the company, tech, and research for Pennie’s on the dollar or just imbeds a spy into the company or hacker to steal the tech. Corporate espionage is very real. China is number one.
Partly because their military is going to get smaller and smaller as the years go by because their population is declining. For a country that claims they think in terms of centuries that one child policy was a not well thought out. No one ever said commies were the brightest.