I have no problem with people owning any guns as long as they aren’t mentally ill to the point where they will harm themselves or others or are a true violent felon/wife beater.
Queue up the next thread where people discuss how to modify a gun to be harder to convert to be "complaint".
If I made machine tools I'd gladly sell to New Yorkers. Just anyone "official" would be S.O.L. That would be in writing in the contract when they buy the devices and any found to have acquired it via fraudulent means (lying) would be on the hook for millions of dollars.
It will never actually go anywhere, Just another law on the books that is not feasible. I believe they have a certain amount of time to create a commission to make recommendations on feasibility and revisit in the future. Obviously, its near impossible, so this will never be spoken of again. All it matters is Kunty "did something" during an election year for the gun hating city dwellers.
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Yep, feel good look what I did.
Obviously that is the end goal, a bite at a time complete ban of absolutely everything.
Here is the bill that was passed. I don’t have time to read it now, but it has to be in there somewhere.New York Budget Bill Effectively Bans Glocks and P320s
New York's budget bill reclassifies many common handguns as machine guns, including Glocks and Sig P320 pistols.
The technical detail is what makes this provision so far-reaching. The “cruciform trigger bar” is a standard internal component found in many of the most popular handguns sold in America today, including:
The cruciform trigger bar is a design feature of these pistols, not an aftermarket modification. It has existed in the Glock platform since the pistol’s introduction in 1982 and has been incorporated into countless handgun designs since then.
- Glock pistols (essentially the entire Glock lineup), which are the best-selling handguns in the American civilian market
- Sig Sauer P320 pistols, including the M17 and M18 variants currently in use as the U.S. military’s standard sidearm
- Various Smith & Wesson M&P and other striker-fired models with similar trigger geometry
Under New York’s new law, possessing one of these handguns — even one purchased legally, even one that has never been modified, even one whose owner has never possessed an actual conversion device — is now classified as machine gun possession under state law. The legal status of the host pistol depends not on what has been done to it, but on whether it could theoretically be modified using “common household tools.”
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Thoughts on this interpretation.
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Cruciform trigger is specifically called out. Glock (and clones) yes, but I believe that the 320 and M&P do not have cruciform trigger bar. Everything is ambiguously written on purpose so I am sure a flintlock could be defined as a convertible pistol.New York Budget Bill Effectively Bans Glocks and P320s
New York's budget bill reclassifies many common handguns as machine guns, including Glocks and Sig P320 pistols.
The technical detail is what makes this provision so far-reaching. The “cruciform trigger bar” is a standard internal component found in many of the most popular handguns sold in America today, including:
The cruciform trigger bar is a design feature of these pistols, not an aftermarket modification. It has existed in the Glock platform since the pistol’s introduction in 1982 and has been incorporated into countless handgun designs since then.
- Glock pistols (essentially the entire Glock lineup), which are the best-selling handguns in the American civilian market
- Sig Sauer P320 pistols, including the M17 and M18 variants currently in use as the U.S. military’s standard sidearm
- Various Smith & Wesson M&P and other striker-fired models with similar trigger geometry
Under New York’s new law, possessing one of these handguns — even one purchased legally, even one that has never been modified, even one whose owner has never possessed an actual conversion device — is now classified as machine gun possession under state law. The legal status of the host pistol depends not on what has been done to it, but on whether it could theoretically be modified using “common household tools.”
FOLKS
Thoughts on this interpretation.
You’re not. I have the same question. Depends on what they consider easily convertible. Is milling a frame that?
I suspect they will use it as an opportunity to make money. I bet they make a drop in replacement trigger.
"Common household tools" to include a dremel. I cannot think of any semi auto that cannot be converted
Page 6. Interesting info on immigration enforcement as well. No wonder the “Budget” is three months late.
They already have a line of them; “NYS Compliant “
I hope so. Maybe then the gun owners of this fucking state will get off their asses and vote.
I am not familiar with any glock product specifically tailored to NY other than the NYPD trigger. Can you expand on that?
Yes, it’s bad. There are many that feel they only need a shot gun and a few boxes of slugs for deer camp.
