Glock ban law passes in nys with the budget, convertible style handguns now banned

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Saltwater60 said:
Your reps both probably support this as mine do as well. Most of our elected elite class support this. Probably even half of the ones with an R in front of their names.
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I also did the ol' my family contributes as positive members of the community, and we are having hard discussions that NY no longer represents our values and we are discussing whether to take our family, community contributions, income, tax revenue and spending to another state that respects their citizens.

I'm quite sure that will not get me a response and they will be glad to see me leave taking my conservative vote with me.
 
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I wholeheartedly agree but how many gun owners are in this state that are simply too damn lazy to try. 10,000, half a million how many of us are there? Seems like every other weird ass group greases the squeaky wheel and gets things done. All we can do is face the fact that most gun owners like to bitch or simply can't or won't be bothered to act. If we all did as you and I do it "may" be possible to be heard and taken seriously. I got permission to hang a sign in my FFL's shop that gives names and phone numbers along with email addresses so that when the inevitable bitching starts, we can just point to the sign. Tired of hearing it!
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I spent the time and effort regularly complaining to my local, state, and federal reps. The only replies I got were form letters stating the standard "I support the 2nd amendment, but...blah blah blah". I finally said fuck it, and left that shit hole. YMMV.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
I also did the ol' my family contributes as positive members of the community, and we are having hard discussions that NY no longer represents our values and we are discussing whether to take our family, community contributions, income, tax revenue and spending to another state that respects their citizens.

I'm quite sure that will not get me a response and they will be glad to see me leave taking my conservative vote with me.
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I tried explaining to the governor why people are leaving and offered to sit down with her or her staff to have a discussion on simple ways to avoid this. I got no response. I laid out many of the policies forcing people to leave this state. They don’t care.
 
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I tried explaining to the governor why people are leaving and offered to sit down with her or her staff to have a discussion on simple ways to avoid this. I got no response. I laid out many of the policies forcing people to leave this state. They don’t care.
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Honestly, they are relieved and pleased every time a conservative voter leaves.

It gives their party power and NY politics is slowly consolidating into a D-Liberal uniparty. By driving conservatives from the state they.arw actually reducing any political challenges and increasing the likelihood of political survival.

They welcome it.


Sooner or later they will care when they can't pay the bills but it hasn't stopped them so far they keep finding new and creative ways to pillage one fund or another for unintended purposes to launder money around. Hasn't come home to roost yet but sooner or later they will deplete all their buckets of money and will be bankrupt.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
Honestly, they are relieved and pleased every time a conservative voter leaves.

It gives their party power and NY politics is slowly consolidating into a D-Liberal uniparty. By driving conservatives from the state they.arw actually reducing any political challenges and increasing the likelihood of political survival.

They welcome it.


Sooner or later they will care when they can't pay the bills but it hasn't stopped them so far they keep finding new and creative ways to pillage one fund or another for unintended purposes to launder money around. Hasn't come home to roost yet but sooner or later they will deplete all their buckets of money and will be bankrupt.
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They welcome it and the Queen outright told us to leave. The State Constitution calls the Discrimination of Color by the way.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
Honestly, they are relieved and pleased every time a conservative voter leaves.

It gives their party power and NY politics is slowly consolidating into a D-Liberal uniparty. By driving conservatives from the state they.arw actually reducing any political challenges and increasing the likelihood of political survival.

They welcome it.


Sooner or later they will care when they can't pay the bills but it hasn't stopped them so far they keep finding new and creative ways to pillage one fund or another for unintended purposes to launder money around. Hasn't come home to roost yet but sooner or later they will deplete all their buckets of money and will be bankrupt.
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Correct, that is when they will care. However, they should care before it gets to that point because they will then need to piss off their followers and people that love them.
It will go down in a flaming bag of crap one day.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
Correct, that is when they will care. However, they should care before it gets to that point because they will then need to piss off their followers and people that love them.
It will go down in a flaming bag of crap one day.
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Thats someone elses problem. Bucky will be outta office by then.

Itll be the Bronx is burning just on a statewide scale.
 
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Well the word I am hearing from all corners is that July 1, 2027 is the deadline for Glock purchases.

My purchase went well. Used Dave Fish FFL in Glen Aubrey who was very efficient and very friendly for the transfer. I'd do business with him again for sure. 2 problems were: 1. the law that requires 2 trips to the FFL with a trip to the law in between. What a waste of time, money, wear and tear on the car, etc. Just another way to discourage firearm purchases. Easy enough for the FFL to send the signed form to the law and have the law send the Honey Boo Boo "coupon" back electronically to save a drive. 2. I hand the clerk of the law my plastic license and a $10 bill and she hands me back a piece of paper because "the machine is down" for writing on my card. So I get to keep a piece of paper with me in addition to my card at all times. I cut it down and put packing on both sides to preserve it. Pain in the butt. Good news is the gun was advertised at a good price and used, but looks brand new and shoots well with the existing sights at the range. Pleasure to shoot. Now it's time to accessorize.
 
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sorry if this was already addressed: Several months back Glock announced they were discontinuing sales, only to later announce the release of 6th Generation Pistols that would not be convertible, so would these not be salable in NY? Seems to me the new law prohibits the sale of old stock and who the hell knows what other brands and models...how does one really know?
Just because something looks like a now prohibited gun doesn't make it the same as one that's been outlawed.
 
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FP1201 said:
sorry if this was already addressed: Several months back Glock announced they were discontinuing sales, only to later announce the release of 6th Generation Pistols that would not be convertible, so would these not be salable in NY? Seems to me the new law prohibits the sale of old stock and who the hell knows what other brands and models...how does one really know?
Just because something looks like a now prohibited gun doesn't make it the same as one that's been outlawed.
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I have not gotten into the language in the budget bill, but 6th gen probably is good to go. The issue with Gen 5 and before is you won't be able to buy or sell them in NYS. What you want may not be available in Gen 6 like the 48 MOS I just bought.
 
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dean3690 said:
I have not gotten into the language in the budget bill, but 6th gen probably is good to go. The issue with Gen 5 and before is you won't be able to buy or sell them in NYS. What you want may not be available in Gen 6 like the 48 MOS I just bought.
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So what other pistols use this "cruciform trigger"?
Is there a list of Pistols?
How is one to know if there isn't one?
Not every, hell many Dealers won't know if it's a now prohibited sale....guess we need to go back to Revolvers and 1911's. [rolleyes]
 
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FP1201 said:
So what other pistols use this "cruciform trigger"?
Is there a list of Pistols?
How is one to know if there isn't one?
Not every, hell many Dealers won't know if it's a now prohibited sale....guess we need to go back to Revolvers and 1911's. [rolleyes]
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It’s many of the older Glock generations and a few Smith and Wesson models. There was a list in the thread I confirmed on the web. It’s the SDVE 9mm or something like that. I’m sure I got a letter wrong in there.
 
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I do not see a cruciform? Does anyone know of another pistol with a cruciform trigger other than Glock and its clones other that things that kinda look the part but are not?

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Supposedly it’s on the CA ban list and still classified as a cruciform trigger from what I am reading. I don’t know. It’s AI so it could be wrong as well.
 

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I can see the anti gun lobby hire firms to seek out and mfg devices that will make all handguns go full auto. . I don't know how possible it is. Just throwing this out for speculation. ... It does not matter if it would be hard or easy to install.
 
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The DOJ is warning California that it may sue over the state’s upcoming “GLOCK ban.”

The law is set to take effect July 1 and would target certain semiautomatic handguns that officials say can be illegally converted with switches. But the DOJ says Californians still have a Second Amendment right to buy and use modern handguns for self-defense.

For a simple, one-stop guide to all the current gun laws in your state, or the ones you’re traveling to, click here uscca.co/2WBW

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Defilade said:
The DOJ is warning California that it may sue over the state’s upcoming “GLOCK ban.”

The law is set to take effect July 1 and would target certain semiautomatic handguns that officials say can be illegally converted with switches. But the DOJ says Californians still have a Second Amendment right to buy and use modern handguns for self-defense.

For a simple, one-stop guide to all the current gun laws in your state, or the ones you’re traveling to, click here uscca.co/2WBW

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Go and get them, and not the guns, the crap politicians.
 
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Defilade said:
The DOJ is warning California that it may sue over the state’s upcoming “GLOCK ban.”

The law is set to take effect July 1 and would target certain semiautomatic handguns that officials say can be illegally converted with switches. But the DOJ says Californians still have a Second Amendment right to buy and use modern handguns for self-defense.

For a simple, one-stop guide to all the current gun laws in your state, or the ones you’re traveling to, click here uscca.co/2WBW

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Did the DOJ forget all about the handgun roster?
 
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livingston said:
I can see the anti gun lobby hire firms to seek out and mfg devices that will make all handguns go full auto. . I don't know how possible it is. Just throwing this out for speculation. ... It does not matter if it would be hard or easy to install.
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I would not put it past them. No different than the SPLC paying the KKK to gin up their need for donations.
 
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Defilade said:
The DOJ is warning California that it may sue over the state’s upcoming “GLOCK ban.”

The law is set to take effect July 1 and would target certain semiautomatic handguns that officials say can be illegally converted with switches. But the DOJ says Californians still have a Second Amendment right to buy and use modern handguns for self-defense.

For a simple, one-stop guide to all the current gun laws in your state, or the ones you’re traveling to, click here uscca.co/2WBW

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As Promised: Trump DOJ Sues California over Glock Ban​


On Wednesday, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Harmeet Dhillon announced a DOJ lawsuit against California over that state’s Glock ban.
In a DOJ press release, Dhillon said, “The Civil Rights Division will defend law-abiding citizens from states that seek to disarm them illegally. This lawsuit is yet another example of this Justice Department enforcing the Second Amendment by protecting citizens against unconstitutional state regulation of firearms.”
www.breitbart.com

As Promised: Trump DOJ Sues California over Glock Ban

Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Harmeet Dhillon announced a DOJ lawsuit against California over that state's Glock ban.
www.breitbart.com www.breitbart.com
 
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livingston said:
The Civil Rights Division will defend law-abiding citizens from states that seek to disarm them illegally.
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Except New York.

New York, whose ugly-assed (and ugly-faced) governor with the ginormous gravity-defying eyebrows and buck teeth deliberately forced through un-Constitutional Laws after Bruen, and BRAGGED about it.
Why is the DoJ so afraid of New York?
 
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Is this not when the police should step in and arrest any politicians who are undermining the rights of the people?
Shall not be infringed. Where is the aclu,
our governor.
 
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Grimscale said:
Except New York.

New York, whose ugly-assed (and ugly-faced) governor with the ginormous gravity-defying eyebrows and buck teeth deliberately forced through un-Constitutional Laws after Bruen, and BRAGGED about it.
Why is the DoJ so afraid of New York?
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Hochul's an asshole.

Plus her proportions are way off. Her head is too big for her body; her teeth are too big for her face. It appears her eyebrows are high on drugs. If you don't believe me, just look at them.
That woman is just a mess. The accidental governor. A political whore.

She looks like an evil cartoon character... lol

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Drinkthekoolaid said:
I also did the ol' my family contributes as positive members of the community, and we are having hard discussions that NY no longer represents our values and we are discussing whether to take our family, community contributions, income, tax revenue and spending to another state that respects their citizens.

I'm quite sure that will not get me a response and they will be glad to see me leave taking my conservative vote with me.
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Gotta keep in mind that this legislation was hidden without review, oversight, or input from the Public OR Republicans in the Budget Bill...Remember, Nancy Pelosi set the precedence with "'we have to pass it first to see what's in it" mentality.
 
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