NYS, first state to issue a moratorium on large data centers - one year long, looking to repeal tax breaks as well

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I see this as one more nail in the coffin. I know fo a few data centered proposed and the one by the swamps and sensitive ecosystem is stupid. There is one by me in the town of Tonawanda on an old steel coke making plant that is a great location. The area around it is heavily industrial and has an oil refinery. It’s a closed loop cooling system and plenty of solar coming on line around it to offset the use in electric. The site is super contaminated so not much else can go in there. No homes in close proximity to the area either.

I support selecting smart site for these but a moratorium on them is bad for business and we already are that.
 
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AI demands very stupid and uneducated ghetto trash to establish its need to direct human behavior.

Military uses are arcane and and really do not need AI/Skynet directing the issuing of speeding tickets, monitoring gun sales or casino gambling or monitoring inside the home conversations by surreptitious I phone spying, etc.

China needs all this data about us, personally for some stupid reason.
 
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My work is constantly pushing for us to use more AI. I don't do much technical work anymore, but I've been using it a lot for the HR-related work... reviews of my team and my self-evaluation and whanot. Pretty handy for that bullshit. I just feed in a few talking points and tell it wordsmith it for me. Definitely simplified the dumb parts of my job.

Not worth destroying the environment for, but hey, if using AI is part of how I get evaluated, then fine, I'll use AI.
 
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Does using one of the AI agents to write letters count? That is the limit of my AI interactions.
 
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AI can change written history as we know it.

AI can direct drivers to drive off cliffs.
AI can eliminate large portions of the population when necessary..... shut off public services and the elect grid.

DOD may need it, but not the rest of us.
 
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As I understand it, with the shut down of Nuclear we went from generating 1.6 MW from one plant to 1.2MW for ALL the combined Solar Farms...we needed MORE electricity to sustain the grid, now we have less, and opening a data center would exhaust the system even with the nuclear plant running...We put up with a lot of bullshit from government and utilities, UNTIL there's no power, then the hate comes in from everyone, and believe it or not, both ARE fearful of a pissed off public.
They are placing this moratorium out there to save their own asses from the blackouts that will occur if centers are opened...oh and as I understand it many Data Centers augment their consumption using Natural Gas Turbines, which is fine, but NY said no more burning NG let alone Drilling in one of the richest deposits in the Country across the Southern Tier.
OUR State is operated controlled by absolute fucktards elected by masses of fucktards promised free shit if they'd just vote democrat.
 
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FP1201 said:
As I understand it, with the shut down of Nuclear we went from generating 1.6 MW from one plant to 1.2MW for ALL the combined Solar Farms...we needed MORE electricity to sustain the grid, now we have less, and opening a data center would exhaust the system even with the nuclear plant running...We put up with a lot of bullshit from government and utilities, UNTIL there's no power, then the hate comes in from everyone, and believe it or not, both ARE fearful of a pissed off public.
They are placing this moratorium out there to save their own asses from the blackouts that will occur if centers are opened...oh and as I understand it many Data Centers augment their consumption using Natural Gas Turbines, which is fine, but NY said no more burning NG let alone Drilling in one of the richest deposits in the Country across the Southern Tier.
OUR State is operated controlled by absolute fucktards elected by masses of fucktards promised free shit if they'd just vote democrat.
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All valid points.
My concerns are NYS is already not attractive to businesses and will this make it less attractive?
 
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OwnTheRide said:
My work is constantly pushing for us to use more AI. I don't do much technical work anymore, but I've been using it a lot for the HR-related work... reviews of my team and my self-evaluation and whanot. Pretty handy for that bullshit. I just feed in a few talking points and tell it wordsmith it for me. Definitely simplified the dumb parts of my job.

Not worth destroying the environment for, but hey, if using AI is part of how I get evaluated, then fine, I'll use AI.
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I hated the self-evaluations. Boss too lazy or afraid to let me know my standing in how I am doing my work. You don't know if they short change your raise to give something less then you really deserve.
 
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The internet and youtube/podcasts, are presently consumed with advertising, ad, testimonials, and spying on your purchases, ---on line and in brick and mortar stores, and spying on your bank accts and car stats to sell sell sell ,and get your $$$

An AI powered abuse internet network would wake you, tell you what to buy and where to go daily in you self driving car....do not bullshit me about Missile defense systems...the DOD will protect itself.

This AI is designed for population control only and dumbing down the dumb population even more.

AI history would be written so that Minorities would eventually kill whites on sight.

Back in the day there was Encyclopedia Brittanica, when people could read .............and Libraries
 
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As I understand it, with the shut down of Nuclear we went from generating 1.6 MW from one plant to 1.2MW for ALL the combined Solar Farms...we needed MORE electricity to sustain the grid, now we have less, and opening a data center would exhaust the system even with the nuclear plant running...We put up with a lot of bullshit from government and utilities, UNTIL there's no power, then the hate comes in from everyone, and believe it or not, both ARE fearful of a pissed off public.
They are placing this moratorium out there to save their own asses from the blackouts that will occur if centers are opened...oh and as I understand it many Data Centers augment their consumption using Natural Gas Turbines, which is fine, but NY said no more burning NG let alone Drilling in one of the richest deposits in the Country across the Southern Tier.
OUR State is operated controlled by absolute fucktards elected by masses of fucktards promised free shit if they'd just vote democrat.
 
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FP1201 said:
As I understand it, with the shut down of Nuclear we went from generating 1.6 MW from one plant to 1.2MW for ALL the combined Solar Farms...we needed MORE electricity to sustain the grid, now we have less, and opening a data center would exhaust the system even with the nuclear plant running...We put up with a lot of bullshit from government and utilities, UNTIL there's no power, then the hate comes in from everyone, and believe it or not, both ARE fearful of a pissed off public.
They are placing this moratorium out there to save their own asses from the blackouts that will occur if centers are opened...oh and as I understand it many Data Centers augment their consumption using Natural Gas Turbines, which is fine, but NY said no more burning NG let alone Drilling in one of the richest deposits in the Country across the Southern Tier.
OUR State is operated controlled by absolute fucktards elected by masses of fucktards promised free shit if they'd just vote democrat.
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The solution isn’t to ban data centers the solution was to help coal fired plants run cleaner. Instead we went with solar and a spending more money putting them in, ruining wildlife habitat, prime farmland, and helping China since they make 85% of the worlds solar. This wasn’t about clean energy because we could have made coal clean, it’s about control and helping China. The democrats are in bed with China for whatever reason.
 
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HIghlander said:
I hated the self-evaluations. Boss too lazy or afraid to let me know my standing in how I am doing my work. You don't know if they short change your raise to give something less then you really deserve.
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I originally considered them really dumb, but I came to like them once I realized that managers were basically copying and pasting what I said into their reviews. I paid attention to what got copied and really focused on those items, and it had the effect of essentially writing my own appraisal each year.
 
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