Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Well bless your heart.
Robin
I Met My First Super Fudd Yesterday!
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Robin
Historically speaking, something like 70% of mass murderers use handguns.
Please don't confuse him and his perfectly delusional ar- oops, I mean good - perfectly good arguement with facts.
thughes
.223 Rem
Dammit...another thread goes into the "ignore" bucket. 
spat
.950 JDJ
Yea, I drive pipe into the ground and then slot in target holders welded up from 5/8 rebar.
The rebar is smaller than wood, so less likely to be hit, and I just weld it back up when it is.
The rebar is also smaller, so don't need as big a piece of pipe, I usually use 3/4 sch 40 steel. That's small enough I can just make the hole with an SDS drill rather than having to do real work.
My targets are mostly not in an area accessible to the excavator.
During the 1970's, the AR craze began, and by the end of the 80's the AW/AR phenomenon was overwhelming.
AR receivers really started to be made available, Sendra, Bushmaster, ETC ETC, ETC
Colt tried to keep up witht the demand with the SP1 line.
AW Gun Kits and AW guns started to come in in droves..AK's FAL's, HK's, etc etc and kits galore............You were not there kid, obviously. ATF had to outlaw M16 parts in AR's and auto sears.
At the Syr gun show, it was amazing what you could buy. I bought an HK 91 for $400in '88 and AK's were dirt cheap.
Garands came in 1985, by the thousands,
Bill Clinton really had nothing to do with the AR craze. He just tried to stop it.
Congress passed the AW ban for 10 years.
That you think that it all started with BC shows your youth and lack of knowlege of the past.
Shotgun News i the 1980's was the bible of gun news and products.
AR receivers really started to be made available, Sendra, Bushmaster, ETC ETC, ETC
Colt tried to keep up witht the demand with the SP1 line.
AW Gun Kits and AW guns started to come in in droves..AK's FAL's, HK's, etc etc and kits galore............You were not there kid, obviously. ATF had to outlaw M16 parts in AR's and auto sears.
At the Syr gun show, it was amazing what you could buy. I bought an HK 91 for $400in '88 and AK's were dirt cheap.
Garands came in 1985, by the thousands,
Bill Clinton really had nothing to do with the AR craze. He just tried to stop it.
Congress passed the AW ban for 10 years.
That you think that it all started with BC shows your youth and lack of knowlege of the past.
Shotgun News i the 1980's was the bible of gun news and products.
The sale of AR and AK platform rifles ABSOLUTELY EXPLODED with the passage of the AW ban in 1994. Those stats are undeniable.
Nope, he is a Gen X, probably between 45-55. Im pretty bad at guessing age.
So you're just now realizing this?
Zero thinks no one is safe, qualified, or should have anything the State deems unnecessary, scary, or dangerous.
This thread is a good example of why I built a home gym. Most people are fine, but there's always those 1 or 2 assholes determined to ruin the experience for everyone else. The Gym. At a Range. Doesn't matter... they're out there. I love being able to push the steel around without the annoyance.
spat
.950 JDJ
In the online gaming world they're called griefers.
They're the level 80 character who just wants to hang out in the new player area and torture the level 2 characters.
The 1994 AW Ban was NATIONWIDE, not just NYS.
AW Gun sales plummeted, and only defanged AW's could be sold for ten years. Grandfathered AW's were ok to keep and sell, as were PRE BAN mags.
Youth, inexperience and ignorance on display here.
AW Gun sales plummeted, and only defanged AW's could be sold for ten years. Grandfathered AW's were ok to keep and sell, as were PRE BAN mags.
Youth, inexperience and ignorance on display here.
- 1993: AR-15s made up 1.3% of all U.S. firearms produced.
- 1994: Production peaked at 2.2% (approx. 274,000 units) as buyers rushed ahead of the ban.
- 1995: Production fell back down to 1.4% the year after the ban was instituted.
spat
.950 JDJ
Yes, but not all ARs were banned. Everyone on this site is well aware of the ridiculous parameters of the ban, and the myriad ways the industry worked around it.
Or are you going to throw out some "no true scotsman" defense when someone brings up thumbhole stocks.
I owned several thumbhole guns. An AK--$200.00. in 1994.
De nutted , new guns were the norm for a decade.
New Colt AR's got the big FC pins and a big bock inside the receiver.
Guns marked LE only were tantalizing.
After the AWban expired many gun were changed over, except in NYS...until the SAFe act, some features were still legal...det mag, PG, and muzzle brake or carbine stock.
Many lives were saved by the thumbhole stocks.........................
De nutted , new guns were the norm for a decade.
New Colt AR's got the big FC pins and a big bock inside the receiver.
Guns marked LE only were tantalizing.
After the AWban expired many gun were changed over, except in NYS...until the SAFe act, some features were still legal...det mag, PG, and muzzle brake or carbine stock.
Many lives were saved by the thumbhole stocks.........................
By your own assessment perhaps, however we made lots of money on "defanged" and "pre-ban" AW's and magazines, with more people interested and purchasing if for no other reason that they were told they couldn't have one. Web sites like AR15.com were off the rails with expansion, manufacturers for parts and receivers were too numerous to list...I lived it, thrived, and became well versed on the subject and its legalities.
As for New York and Republican Governor Pataki, the State mirrored the Federal AW Ban sans the Sun-Set Provision.
Oh boy...
Some nutless fug at a range displays stupidity and causes members here to argue about nonsense. Guess he's won!?
I would told him to move along because you can't fix stupid, even with dict tape, in this case, across his mouth! And if he didn't like that, too bad, fuck him and his bullshit.
But I wouldn't carry that with me or worry about his miswired brain! Fuck him!
Just do you, and enjoy it. I don't need to justify my existence by display to anyone. But if you feel the need to piss on my leg, you'll find out real quick about life mistakes and lessons!
Glad to be a considerable distance from these types now. Not that some don't exist here, but it's less NY population, lol
Some nutless fug at a range displays stupidity and causes members here to argue about nonsense. Guess he's won!?
I would told him to move along because you can't fix stupid, even with dict tape, in this case, across his mouth! And if he didn't like that, too bad, fuck him and his bullshit.
But I wouldn't carry that with me or worry about his miswired brain! Fuck him!
Just do you, and enjoy it. I don't need to justify my existence by display to anyone. But if you feel the need to piss on my leg, you'll find out real quick about life mistakes and lessons!
Glad to be a considerable distance from these types now. Not that some don't exist here, but it's less NY population, lol
Well, you can watch me shoot my registered NYS AW's, with ten round mgs at the range, and drool.
Obama was gun salesman of the year in 2011 or so,when he tried to ban 5.56 ammo and political gun forums.
Neal Knox was unofficial POTUS of the gun community back in the 80's-90's.
en.wikipedia.org
An armed populace terrifies Communists and the domestic CCP.
The 2nd was written for citizens to protect their homes, and to be part of the unorganized Militias and later on, to protect citizen Wagon Trains during the 1840's from murderous indians on the various Oregon and Santa Fe trails.
Despite guns, and some Army protection the Oregon trail, Bozeman Trail, Santa Fe Trail and Mormon Trails were littered with the bones of dead Emigrants. Estimates of killed and butchered alive, are politically incorrect today to list.
Between 400,00 and 700,00 Emigrants went west, and many were killed, nameless today...maybe 10%
The Colt 6 shooters were perfected by Colt in the 1840's ----i,e, the first Dragoons, to kill Native Americans for Col Walker. Thank God for the Henry, too.
There is no need for citizens to walk around with AR's in public to terrify citizens. That is psychotic.
Obama was gun salesman of the year in 2011 or so,when he tried to ban 5.56 ammo and political gun forums.
Neal Knox was unofficial POTUS of the gun community back in the 80's-90's.
Neal Knox - Wikipedia
An armed populace terrifies Communists and the domestic CCP.
The 2nd was written for citizens to protect their homes, and to be part of the unorganized Militias and later on, to protect citizen Wagon Trains during the 1840's from murderous indians on the various Oregon and Santa Fe trails.
Despite guns, and some Army protection the Oregon trail, Bozeman Trail, Santa Fe Trail and Mormon Trails were littered with the bones of dead Emigrants. Estimates of killed and butchered alive, are politically incorrect today to list.
Between 400,00 and 700,00 Emigrants went west, and many were killed, nameless today...maybe 10%
The Colt 6 shooters were perfected by Colt in the 1840's ----i,e, the first Dragoons, to kill Native Americans for Col Walker. Thank God for the Henry, too.
There is no need for citizens to walk around with AR's in public to terrify citizens. That is psychotic.
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No-one is "drooling" over your "registered assault weapons with 10 round mags". OOOHH !!! NEVER SEEN ONE OF THOSE BEFORE !!! There are well over a million of them in NYS that AREN'T subject to confiscation because NYS doesn't have a list of who owns them. Don't even start with your horseshit about them being hidden inside walls and floorboards either, because they're NOT. They get brought to ranges and fields every day.
What exactly is so scary about a rifle slung over someone's shoulder that has you cowering in fear ? If that scares you, maybe YOU'RE the one that's psychotic ! Hoplophobia is real. I'm not a psychologist, but I think you should get clinical diagnosis.
What exactly is so scary about a rifle slung over someone's shoulder that has you cowering in fear ? If that scares you, maybe YOU'RE the one that's psychotic ! Hoplophobia is real. I'm not a psychologist, but I think you should get clinical diagnosis.
Range officers check when thy see what may be an illegal AW unregistered.....I carry my license.
You do not have 30 rounders or full featured Aw's that you take outside........that is just internet bravdo.
Mag lock people walk thin ice.
23,000 people registered 43,000 Aw's by 2013.
Estimates of over 2 million in the State were likely accurate.
13 years ago.
Denutted AR's have been selling with and without Maglocks.
Many AW's got sold out of state. People who could not legally own any weapon kept them, as to sell them would expose illegal ownership.
Every day ATF arrests people and NYS alliows them to do the dirty work.
www.atf.gov
You do not have 30 rounders or full featured Aw's that you take outside........that is just internet bravdo.
Mag lock people walk thin ice.
23,000 people registered 43,000 Aw's by 2013.
Estimates of over 2 million in the State were likely accurate.
13 years ago.
Denutted AR's have been selling with and without Maglocks.
Many AW's got sold out of state. People who could not legally own any weapon kept them, as to sell them would expose illegal ownership.
Every day ATF arrests people and NYS alliows them to do the dirty work.
Press Releases | ATF
www.atf.gov
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You seem pleased with all that, and the S.A.F.E. act. Why are you even here?Range officers check when thy see what may be an illegal AW unregistered.....I carry my license.
You do not have 30 rounders or full featured Aw's that you take outside........that is just internet bravdo.
Mag lock people walk thin ice.
23,000 people registered 43,000 Aw's by 2013.
Estimates of over 2 million in the State were likely accurate.
13 years ago.
Denutted AR's have been selling with and without Maglocks.
Many AW's got sold out of state. People who could not legally own any weapon kept them, as to sell them would expose illegal ownership.
Every day ATF arrests people and NYS alliows them to do the dirty work.
Press Releases | ATF
Robin
10-15-20 years advance of age does not necessarily make your knowledge of Firearms and related issues superior to others who have dedicated decades to study and involvement in the industry.
AR-15 Receivers were mostly made to thwart the installation of M-16 (full auto) Parts, but if you were clever enough to machine out your own 80% receiver, you could damn well install FA parts, with the Federal (felony) Prohibitions be damned, Unless you've fucked up and ATF or the State have you on their radar, nobody is going to demand you open your rifle and even if you did, they would have to confiscate the Rifle and send it to their Laboratories to determine what if anything is illegal about it.
So are you or are you not "V Guy" on the FALfiles?
some of the crazy shit posted there: https://falfiles.com/threads/blm-vs-muscogee.526481/
Never happened at any of the clubs I frequented in the north country. None of those clubs had range officers present. Even when I was a club president we never harass club members about their guns. They are all assumed to be legal. We were not the police and did not want to be. I rarely ever saw more than One or two shooters at my club. As long as they were not shooting over the berms or shooting up the target stands I never bothered them.Range officers check when thy see what may be an illegal AW unregistered.....
Press Releases | ATF
spat
.950 JDJ
You must have been going to some pretty shitty ranges if you had to carry paperwork.Range officers check when thy see what may be an illegal AW unregistered.....I carry my license.
You do not have 30 rounders or full featured Aw's that you take outside........that is just internet bravdo.
Mag lock people walk thin ice.
23,000 people registered 43,000 Aw's by 2013.
Estimates of over 2 million in the State were likely accurate.
13 years ago.
Denutted AR's have been selling with and without Maglocks.
Many AW's got sold out of state. People who could not legally own any weapon kept them, as to sell them would expose illegal ownership.
Every day ATF arrests people and NYS alliows them to do the dirty work.
Press Releases | ATF
I knew lots of people with "real" rifles in NY then, and I can assure you, we shot them a lot.
The fact that I could get a case of ammo for $65 means I shot mine more then than I do now where I can have anything I want.
Never once have I or anyone I know been asked to prove that anything in their posession other than handguns was registered. In all my years only one time have I encountered a EnCon officer in the field without me calling them. Even then, he only checked that I was using steel shot and that my gun held no more than 3 shells - I was goose hunting at the time. Have I met Sheriff deputies and Purple Tie Douchebags while coyote hunting ? Yes, several times. Still, they only check license and then they leave - assuming they can find you in the dark.
The SAFE ACT is law.
I am hopeful that SCOTUS takes the many pending AW cases, in a consolidated trial.
Since AW's and HC mags are legal in 38 states, the NYS SFE act is like a rotten egg with a bad yolk at its center.
Prohibitions against lawful sales of AW's in NYS, even between people who have registered theirs, and have a Semi Endorsement, is blatantly unconstitutional.
The evil features provisions, are the result of psychotic evil genius, CCP influenced DSA types.
You do not need ten rounds to kill much of anything living............that excremental HC Mag provision was enacted due to the lack of ten round or 7 round mags for any AW back then.
I am surprised that the ammo law does not prohibit possession or sales of 5.56 in NYS.
Yes it is likely that most of the SA will fall next June.
I was disappointed by the failure of SCOTUS to take up the Vanderstock and Snopes cases, but this time I am sure that like Bruen..................NYS will respond with a new licensing scheme worse than the existing PP denial plan. Home gun storage permits may be next................deny deny deny.
Evil never sleeps
I am hopeful that SCOTUS takes the many pending AW cases, in a consolidated trial.
Since AW's and HC mags are legal in 38 states, the NYS SFE act is like a rotten egg with a bad yolk at its center.
Prohibitions against lawful sales of AW's in NYS, even between people who have registered theirs, and have a Semi Endorsement, is blatantly unconstitutional.
The evil features provisions, are the result of psychotic evil genius, CCP influenced DSA types.
You do not need ten rounds to kill much of anything living............that excremental HC Mag provision was enacted due to the lack of ten round or 7 round mags for any AW back then.
I am surprised that the ammo law does not prohibit possession or sales of 5.56 in NYS.
Yes it is likely that most of the SA will fall next June.
I was disappointed by the failure of SCOTUS to take up the Vanderstock and Snopes cases, but this time I am sure that like Bruen..................NYS will respond with a new licensing scheme worse than the existing PP denial plan. Home gun storage permits may be next................deny deny deny.
Evil never sleeps