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Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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This is the immediate aftermath of a Russian strike on a critical infrastructure facility in Dnipro on September 21, 2026, where the blast wave also shattered nearby store windows.
I guess launching 1000's of drones into Russia was a bad thing.
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I guess launching 1000's of drones into Russia was a bad thing.
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Sept 13 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Sunday called on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to stop targeting Russian diesel infrastructure, saying the attacks were causing a shortage of the fuel that is "hurting the world".
Ukraine launched its largest-ever drone and missile attack on the Moscow region on September 20, 2026, hitting the major Moscow Oil Refinery in the Kapotnya district and causing a large fire
www.kyivpost.com
Ukraine launched its largest-ever drone and missile attack on the Moscow region on September 20, 2026, hitting the major Moscow Oil Refinery in the Kapotnya district and causing a large fire
Ukraine Strikes Russian Oil Refinery as Putin Resists Energy Truce Ahead of Winter
The attack came as Moscow and Kyiv reportedly resumed talks on halting strikes against energy infrastructure, despite Putin’s reported resistance to a deal.
www.kyivpost.com
Robin
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"Coup Brews in Russia, Kremlin in Lockdown": Western Intel Claims Putin Under Fire; Real Threat or Disinfo Campaign?
In the fifth year of the Ukraine War and unable to make any meaningful gains on the battleground, the Russian President Vladimir Putin is increasingly paranoid about a coup against him, or perhaps even an assassination attempt. The top leadership in the Kremlin has been on a high alert since...
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Alleged Coup Planning Within Russia’s General Staff
Recent unverified claims from Russian sources suggest that certain officers within Russia’s General Staff are allegedly considering a coup-style operation, fearing repression or purges if the war in Ukraine ends…
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Ukrainian man stabs five at Catholic monastery in Poland, killing priest
Police detained a 31-year-old Ukrainian citizen who attacked a monastery in Poland, fatally stabbing a Catholic priest.
spzh.eu
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Zelenskyy Shifts His Business Model – Europe Hands Him Another €6.6 billion
It should be transparently obvious by now. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has shifted his tin cup strategy from directly asking for money, to presenting himself as the world’s leading arms manufacturer. In essence, Zelenskyy has drone pencils in his tin cup.https://theconservativetreehouse.co...026/09/Zelenskyy-business-meeting-scaled.jpeg
Keep watching and we will all start to see this grifting business model in play.
There are concrete agreements regarding Patriot licenses. At our meeting, President Trump stressed that he had made his final decision: Ukraine will receive licenses to produce Patriot missiles. (read more)
Now put the lead-in paragraphs as an overlay against that statement. Zelenskyy wants to organize his corrupt financial system, specifically the income aspect, around Ukraine as the world’s leading arms dealer.
Obviously, this business model provides numerous benefits for everyone inside the Ukraine govt operation whose lifestyle and affluence are dependent on the inflow of massive amounts of money.
If Zelenskyy can get the Patriot Missile licenses, then he can expand his business operation to build and sell Patriots’ to Germany (have been begging for them) and beyond. Zelenskyy becomes the EU hub for EU-NATO arms manufacturing and production. He’s not stupid. If the USA pulls back from EU-NATO, Zelenskyy steps in to fill the void. That appears to be his overall plan.
Zelenskyy Shifts His Business Model - Europe Hands Him Another €6.6 billion - The Last Refuge
It should be transparently obvious by now. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has shifted his tin cup strategy from directly asking for money, to presenting himself as the world’s leading arms manufacturer. In essence, Zelenskyy has drone pencils in his tin cup. Keep watching and we will all...
theconservativetreehouse.com
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Folks How easy is it for pallets of cash like in the above story to get put on a plane as pelosi visits the ukraine with Democrats . for a rainy day slush fund for the DNC ?
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Zelenskyy Shifts His Business Model – Europe Hands Him Another €6.6 billion
It should be transparently obvious by now. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has shifted his tin cup strategy from directly asking for money, to presenting himself as the world’s leading arms manufacturer. In essence, Zelenskyy has drone pencils in his tin cup.
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...026/09/Zelenskyy-business-meeting-scaled.jpeg
Keep watching and we will all start to see this grifting business model in play.
There are concrete agreements regarding Patriot licenses. At our meeting, President Trump stressed that he had made his final decision: Ukraine will receive licenses to produce Patriot missiles. (read more)
Now put the lead-in paragraphs as an overlay against that statement. Zelenskyy wants to organize his corrupt financial system, specifically the income aspect, around Ukraine as the world’s leading arms dealer.
Obviously, this business model provides numerous benefits for everyone inside the Ukraine govt operation whose lifestyle and affluence are dependent on the inflow of massive amounts of money.
If Zelenskyy can get the Patriot Missile licenses, then he can expand his business operation to build and sell Patriots’ to Germany (have been begging for them) and beyond. Zelenskyy becomes the EU hub for EU-NATO arms manufacturing and production. He’s not stupid. If the USA pulls back from EU-NATO, Zelenskyy steps in to fill the void. That appears to be his overall plan.
Zelenskyy Shifts His Business Model - Europe Hands Him Another €6.6 billion - The Last Refuge
It should be transparently obvious by now. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has shifted his tin cup strategy from directly asking for money, to presenting himself as the world’s leading arms manufacturer. In essence, Zelenskyy has drone pencils in his tin cup. Keep watching and we will all...
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Vladimir-Putin-1.jpg
the obvious problem with that plan are the Russian hypersonic missiles. this story theyre selling doenst make any sense whatsoever. the Russians are capeable of hitting any targets in Ukraine anywhere they want. how are they going to move materiel into Ukraine transport it , store it then manufacture large numbers of missiles that suck ( see Kiev Tel aviv , 5th fleet HQ Barain) why does Germany even want to buy these over priced rockets ?
the story doenst make a whole lot of sense unless theres more to it were not seeing
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They are probably going to manufacture them outside of Ukraine and do something fast and minor inside Ukrainian borders. It's just a way to have a plausible deniability of arms shipments.
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That could be . but who the fuck are they fooling ? besides the American Public I mean
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Makes perfect sense as soon as you realize Russia *can't* hit whatever they want in Ukraine.
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Well they hit the hotel Lindzey gram was staying at, they Hit the factory he inspected , they hit the drone factorys Ukraine had , they hit every bridge they shot at , they crippled the energy grid . They hit the hotel NAto commanders were staying at , I dont know what your talking about
Yavoriv Military Base (March 2022): Russian cruise missiles struck the Yavoriv International Center for Peacekeeping and Security near Lviv, close to the Polish border. Russia claimed the attack killed up to 180 foreign fighters, while Ukrainian authorities confirmed dozens of deaths among regular personnel and volunteers
Kharkiv Strikes (January 2024): The Russian Defense Ministry claimed a precision strike on a building in Kharkiv housing predominantly French fighters, stating over 60 were killed. Independent verification was not established, and local Ukrainian officials reported that the strike hit residential areas and injured civilians
Moscow's Stance: The Russian Ministry of Defense routinely frames attacks on training facilities, command posts, and international volunteer units as strikes against foreign mercenaries.
according to Ukrainian sources the russians only manage to kill some civilians once in a while
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Then why haven't they won the war ?
holdover
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They are winning the war, they just closed off a pocket with a few thousand soldiers trapped.
the thing is, and I know you understand it ,is that drone warfare has been extremely cheap and effective has taken everybody by surprise . Until somebody comes up with a cheap counter for it , its just a slugfest with mostly infantry, right now its a snails pace
spat
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This is Afghanistan 2.0 for the Russians.
And they were far stronger in the 80s.
And the Afghans were far weaker than the Ukranians.
There are only 2 ways this ends. With a bankrupt Russia force to withdraw for lack of resources.
Or with Ukraine actually destroying their ability to wage war.
There is nothing possible that you could call a Russian victory.
If it come to that Russia will nuke Ukraine just to save face.
Robin
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Well, not Russia, Putin. This is his personal ordered murderous frolic after all. And like all self absorbed dictators, he's perfectly willing to take the world with him on his way out.
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As far as opposition is concerned yes
yes, and so were we.
in some aspects yes, but the terrain in Afghanistan is insanely hard
4 ways, a Russian victory , or a bargained agreement favorable to Russia
Thats never ever going to happen as most of the manufacturing is done in the far far east out of range of anything the ukraine has or purchased from Allies
Well the russians have small victorys every day , they are driving back the Ukrainians across the entire front , nothing the west has thrown at them has stopped them . that is verified by the maps .
This is not the Ukraine army of 4 years ago .
If you think the Russians will ever quit, your completely delusional , they are not Americans in the sense that Americans will quit if the costs of lives and money get to high . The Russians dont roll that way , as long as there a few Russians left to fight, they are going to fight.
I consider the Ukraine's to be the same way,
The Russians know, the day after any agreement is signed , NATO troops will be pouring into western Ukraine as peace keepers . Shit, even I know that. the credibility of the US is gone as far as the Russians are concerned
the war is moving at a snails pace , if they want to go to Kiev they are going to have to walk , it takes ten times the effort to move logistics forward . some is destroyed right after it gets there .
Your perceiving this as Russian weakness is wrong. Its just a major problem they havent solved yet , they are moving slow but they're moving.
the Russian economy isnt great, but it isnt that bad either
Sept 21 (Reuters) - Russia will have a budget deficit equal to 3% of gross domestic product in 2026, almost double the plan and more than last year, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said on Monday as the government prepares to review the draft of the 2027 budget this week.
Russia hiked taxes this year to cope with the rising expenditure to finance the military action in Ukraine, hoping to reduce the budget deficit to 1.6% of GDP from 2.6% in 2025, but the current deficit in January-August already stands at 2.5% of GDP.
If your planning on the Russian economy collaspeing your going to be waiting a long time , they are still selling oil to Europe at high prices through middlemen countrys that are making a fortune , I understand that was the original plan but it didnt work.
the US pays for the entire Ukraine government , if theres a market crash, it could be the end of the Ukraine war , ask me which will happen first, Id say a western market crash before a Russian one , not sure we can afford another 5 years of this
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That would *not* be a face saving move for Russia. That would be a face ending move.
If our leaders believed that, then a first strike to eliminate Russia'd nuclear capabilities would be the only logical move.
spat
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The Russians left Afghanistan after a stalemate.
Faster than we did FWIW.
They will not be allowed to win in Ukraine. They're being allowed to slowly bleed themselves to death, but they'll never be allowed to win.
And for what it's worth, we are far stronger than we were in the 1980s.
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They were there for 10 years. in Ukraine for 4 , so they still got some time . Only thing prolonging this war is NATO , without the endless suppliy of arms and money , Ukjraine would have collapsed .
thats the plan, but I dont think Russia agreed to it . Russia cant lose unless NATO jumps in and thats not gonna happen (probably)
The ukraine is loseing ground constantly, they have never been able to repulse the Russians once they get into a city. (except for the first year )
They are almost on the outskirts of Zaporizhzhia, , 60 miles, an hours drive . its on the Dnieper River.
If the russians are going to make it to Kieve they are going to have to walk most of the way. Thats just the way its going to be , supplys are going to be sloooooo. storage areas have to be wide spread and numerous . Your really reading to much into the speed of advance , it doesnt mean theyre weak
Hows that? in the 80s we had brand new armor , artilley helicopters , our systems are 45 years old. ( I know they get upgrades ) but still . I dont see how were stronger
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The 2026 US military would mop the floor with the 1989 US military.
It wouldn't even be close.
Those upgrades are not small changes. They are massive qualitative differences.
An M1A2SepV3 is so far ahead of the M1A1 they're basically different tanks.
The F22 and F35 are so far ahead of F15, F14 and other Gen 4 fighters that in simulated combat it is described as "like clubbing baby seals".
Even at the infantry level. Thermal and night vision optics and body armor put the modern soldier in a different class than his 80s counterpart.
That's before you start adding in the difference in battle space management and situational awareness at all levels.
Russia will not be allowed to take Ukraine. Putin *doesn't* get a say in that.
He can keep threatening to use his nukes, but the minute NATO thinks he's not just bluffing, they will eliminate his nuclear capability.
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Putin Says Russia Seeks Ukraine Peace Talks, Backs INSTC Project
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Putin orders military leaders to target civilians and nuclear facilities, Zelensky warns: ‘No rules now’
“He [Putin] said there are no rules now,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
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Putin orders military leaders to target civilians and nuclear facilities, Zelensky warns: ‘No rules now’
“He [Putin] said there are no rules now,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
If true not good.
It's almost impossible to get accurate and complete information from the American media on anything going on outside US borders. It's not just expected bias, there are official narratives upheld even when our government's action/reaction is debated.
When the official narrative is proven wrong by the test of time, it is rarely if ever admitted.
When the official narrative is proven wrong by the test of time, it is rarely if ever admitted.
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