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They still have the uranium. That was the only threat we ever cared about.
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Im sure they are not just going to hand it over. you think we should send in ground forces and search the country? you know its not all sitting in one location right? its scattered to the 4 corners of Iran . It could literally take decades to find it all.

the alternative is regime change , but thats not gonna happen in our lifetimes unless we go into Iran on the ground its twice the size of Iraq
 
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Im sure they are not just going to hand it over. you think we should send in ground forces and search the country? you know its not all sitting in one location right? its scattered to the 4 corners of Iran . It could literally take decades to find it all.

the alternative is regime change , but thats not gonna happen in our lifetimes unless we go into Iran on the ground its twice the size of Iraq
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We shall see.


But they'd have been a lot better off if they had.

Especially their leaders.
 
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Im sure they are not just going to hand it over. you think we should send in ground forces and search the country? you know its not all sitting in one location right? its scattered to the 4 corners of Iran . It could literally take decades to find it all.

the alternative is regime change , but thats not gonna happen in our lifetimes unless we go into Iran on the ground its twice the size of Iraq
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I know.. It's in a wet market where there is a bat cave under the guard of men with box cutters.
 
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The Iranian POTUS addressed the UN recently

" WE STILL A BUILDS DA BOMBA...fuck you!!!

Also wounded Ayatollah III, demands free shipments of Cheeze whiz in the can .so that he can eat without a jawbone by squirting it into his empty maw.

You die, Infidel.

NO relief in sight.
 
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Zerex said:
The Iranian POTUS addressed the UN recently

" WE STILL A BUILDS DA BOMBA...fuck you!!!

Also wounded Ayatollah III, demands free shipments of Cheeze whiz in the can .so that he can eat without a jawbone by squirting it into his empty maw.

You die, Infidel.

NO relief in sight.
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Sticks and Stones.
 
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If you think Iran is so great why not visit it and take videos for us so we know it’s legit.
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I dont think Iran is great. I think what were doing there on behalf of a foreign government that has pretty much infiltrated all aspects of our government is wrong .Your the same kind of person that cheered on the invasion of Iraq because Saddam had ties to 911.

but let me know how your trip to Gaza works out wearing a ""press"" shirt
 
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I dont think Iran is great. I think what were doing there on behalf of a foreign government that has pretty much infiltrated all aspects of our government is wrong .Your the same kind of person that cheered on the invasion of Iraq because Saddam had ties to 911.

but let me know how your trip to Gaza works out wearing a ""press"" shirt
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75% of all "press" in Gaza is Hamas, at least.

Also, *you're* the one saying the Palestinians in gaza are the good guys. The rest of us know Gaza is a shithole because of Hamas, and most of Gaza supports them. Why would we need to be the ones showing how great that shithole is ?
 
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75% of all "press" in Gaza is Hamas, at least.

Also, *you're* the one saying the Palestinians in gaza are the good guys. The rest of us know Gaza is a shithole because of Hamas, and most of Gaza supports them. Why would we need to be the ones showing how great that shithole is ?
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75% of the press (Mockingbird media) here in the US is CIA so what's your point.
 
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spat said:
I'm not the one who brought up "press" in Gaza.

Ask @holdover why he thinks anyone here would identify as a a Hamas press agent.
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Because you would have to have giant ball's of steel to go into Gaza with a foreign press shirt on. of course you could go over there where a great big american flag and prove me wrong .


  • Israel was responsible for two-thirds of all press killings in both 2025 and 2024.
  • The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has committed more targeted killings of journalists than any other government’s military since CPJ began documentation in 1992.
  • Drone killings of press members are on the rise: surging from two in 2023 — the first year CPJ documented such killings — to 39 in 2025.
  • At least 104 of the 129 journalists and media workers were killed amid conflicts in 2025. While the number of journalists killed in Ukraine and Sudan increased, the majority were Palestinians killed by Israel.
  • Very few transparent investigations have been held into the cases of targeted killings documented by CPJ in 2025, and no one has been held accountable in any of these cases.
 
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Also, *you're* the one saying the Palestinians in gaza are the good guys. The rest of us know Gaza is a shithole because of Hamas, and most of Gaza supp orts them. Why would we need to be the ones showing how great that shithole is ?
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Jesus christ spat, I never ever said they were the ""good guys"" thats the problem with how you view the world, cowboys and indians clear cut , simple . your either with the jews or with the terrorists . but real life aint so simple .

""most of Gaza supports them"" tell me your fucking joking , when we went into Iraq you didnt think we might be fighting Iraqi's? you expect them to support and help them ?the people that have been called subhuman scum are going to help them now Is that your rationalization?

who even thinks like that?
 
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Jesus christ spat, I never ever said they were the ""good guys"" thats the problem with how you view the world, cowboys and indians clear cut , simple . your either with the jews or with the terrorists . but real life aint so simple .

""most of Gaza supports them"" tell me your fucking joking , when we went into Iraq you didnt think we might be fighting Iraqi's? you expect them to support and help them ?the people that have been called subhuman scum are going to help them now Is that your rationalization?

who even thinks like that?
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We *did* have the support of a lot of Iraqis when we went in there. Most of them were none too fond of Saddam.

The same will likely be true in Iran if we decide to go there.

But, prior to Oct7th Hamas enjoyed overwhelming support in Gaza. Like 80% or better.

And the Gazans who didn't support then usually said it was because they were too soft.

Where the hell do *you* get your understanding of world events ?
 
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holdover said:
I dont think Iran is great. I think what were doing there on behalf of a foreign government that has pretty much infiltrated all aspects of our government is wrong .Your the same kind of person that cheered on the invasion of Iraq because Saddam had ties to 911.

but let me know how your trip to Gaza works out wearing a ""press"" shirt
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I don’t have a problem killing people first that want to kill us.
I think it’s probably time to get out of Iran. We’re not just doing it because Israel told us to and I don’t believe that’s the case.
 
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I don’t have a problem killing people first that want to kill us.
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I dont either. I dont think they were a large threat to the US prior to the war , no hope of winning if they couldn't hit our main land . the way I see it .
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I think it’s probably time to get out of Iran.
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I agree,

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We’re not just doing it because Israel told us to and I don’t believe that’s the case.
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thats exactly the case we were told. the story is Isreal planned to attack Iran, and the US had the option of backing her or not backing her , We could have told her were not going to support it . but even if we chose not to support it and Isreal attacked , there is a high probability that US bases would be hit anyway . We could have applied pressure to Isreal to stop the nonsense, but in any case we choose to support Isreal and attack Iran anyway. THe US had no other reason other than to support our greatest allie who has already quit fighting Iran and left us out there with our dick swinging in the breeze

kinda like your buddy starts mouthing off and gets into a bar fight, then another guy jumps in, then you jump in and another guy jumps in and your friend runs out the back door and leaves you there. WTF? Hey Ally where did ya go?

and another thing is if this was so important to the survival of the Israeli state, why did they quit? I thought Iran was gonna get nukes next week ? now you just walk away? its not important?
 
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I dont either. I dont think they were a large threat to the US prior to the war , no hope of winning if they couldn't hit our main land . the way I see it .

I agree,



thats exactly the case we were told. the story is Isreal planned to attack Iran, and the US had the option of backing her or not backing her , We could have told her were not going to support it . but even if we chose not to support it and Isreal attacked , there is a high probability that US bases would be hit anyway . We could have applied pressure to Isreal to stop the nonsense, but in any case we choose to support Isreal and attack Iran anyway. THe US had no other reason other than to support our greatest allie who has already quit fighting Iran and left us out there with our dick swinging in the breeze

kinda like your buddy starts mouthing off and gets into a bar fight, then another guy jumps in, then you jump in and another guy jumps in and your friend runs out the back door and leaves you there. WTF? Hey Ally where did ya go?

and another thing is if this was so important to the survival of the Israeli state, why did they quit? I thought Iran was gonna get nukes next week ? now you just walk away? its not important?
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Iran hitting the mainland isn’t likely, but it was becoming more likely everyday prior to this. China is helping and supporting them.
Iran attacks us through profiles and radicalization of individuals and groups. They have hit our mainland and bases in the past. Iran has killed our troops and our citizens. You can disagree with that but if it were to go to a court of law with what is known Iran would be convicted on providing material support for the murders.
My point is we didn’t just go to war with Iran because Israel asked us to join in. There is likely more to it. It could be something I disagree with or it could be for a legitimate reason. We will likely never know the truth as in most situations.
 
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I think I found where you get your news. Seeing how all you do is defend false .Gov narratives pushed by the CIA mocking bird media outlets. Hell Alex Jones has 10 times the credibility.
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Saltwater60 said:
My point is we didn’t just go to war with Iran because Israel asked us to join in.
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President Donald Trump stated on March 3, 2026, that he ordered U.S. forces to join the military action against Iran because he believed an Iranian attack against the U.S. or Israel was imminent.

He wasnt wrong,in that asessment . but he did nothing to stop it , he was complicit .
 
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holdover said:

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I think I found where you get your news. Seeing how all you do is defend false .Gov narratives pushed by the CIA mocking bird media outlets. Hell Alex Jones has 10 times the credibility.
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They don’t call it the mocking bird media for nothing
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There are none so blind as those who refuse to see
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You realize you're touting the media savvy of a guy who thinks gravity is a conspiracy theory, and the Jews secretly run the entire world from their base beyond the ice wall, right ?

When you agree with him about so much, you might want to reevaluate your positions on who you can trust as a source of truth.
 
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spat said:
You realize you're touting the media savvy of a guy who thinks gravity is a conspiracy theory, and the Jews secretly run the entire world from their base beyond the ice wall, right ?

When you agree with him about so much, you might want to reevaluate your positions on who you can trust as a source of truth.
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Sorry ,on this one he is correct. You should look at what hes saying here instead of just trying to destroy any argument he has.

the video shows or demonstrates that various news agency's across the country are fed a script . its been documented before.
 
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I'd say bombing the shit out of Iran, destroying their airforce and sinking their entire navy is more than "doing nothing".
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I said he did nothing to stop it . I know a lot of you guys think that wipeing Iran off the face of the earth for Isreal is a great idea , but there a lot people that dont think so
 
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I said he did nothing to stop it . I know a lot of you guys think that wipeing Iran off the face of the earth for Isreal is a great idea , but there a lot people that dont think so
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Well, you said the attack was imminent.

And it didn't happen, so i'd say that means he stopped it.

And certainly wiping the Iranian regime off the face of the earth would solve a lot of problems for everyone with any interest in the middle east.

I think when the place is under new ownership they should change the name back to Persia to separate themselves from the stigma of the current proprietors.

Plus, "Persian" sounds so much better than "Iranian". A Persian rug sounds fancy. An Iranian rug sounds like it comes with a complementary suicide bomber.
 
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Turkey increased its military spending by 12% in 2024, bringing its defence budget to $25 billion, according to data published in April 2025 by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute

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Turkey’s 2025 defense budget is projected at around $30–33.7 billion, a 7–17.5% real-term increase from 2024, driven by domestic arms industry investment and ongoing regional operations


Türkiye’s 2026 defense and internal security budget is set at about $51.4 billion (₺2.155 trillion), roughly a 34% rise over 2025, with $28.7 billion for the Ministry of National Defense
 
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spat said:
You realize you're touting the media savvy of a guy who thinks gravity is a conspiracy theory, and the Jews secretly run the entire world from their base beyond the ice wall, right ?

When you agree with him about so much, you might want to reevaluate your positions on who you can trust as a source of truth.
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You do realize he pointed out how it's your fake media right?? I guess your next rebuttal will be how he is racist.
 
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