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Russians will neutralize air bases with Oreshniks if they will be used to attack Russian troops.

Yes.

Regardless of Russia's demands and conditions, the war in Ukraine was already going on when Russia invaded. This doesn't parallel WWII attacks and invasions by axis. NATO is part of a problem, it can't be a part of the solution. Any peace deal should be mediated by a neutral country. In the end...

Rebels declared Independence and took over local government. War started when Kiev sent troops.

The war started when Kiev government sent troops to suppress break away Donbas regions. Kiev government even gave it a name, ATO (anti terrorist operation).

Historical fact. The war in Ukraine was already going on when Russia invaded. Shelling of Donbass was a war. Civil war or war for independence, it was a WAR.

He softened his demands by saying he can agree to a ceasefire while Russia is still in control of disputed territory. He didn't give up his claim to any 1991 territory. The terms for freezing the conflict being proposed by General Kellogg will be unacceptable to Russia. They been down that road...

White House is considering giving nukes to Ukraine. At least two U.S. lawmakers openly advocating it. So far it's a no go, but that was the routine for crossing every previous escalation line. Putin could be left with no choice.

NATO has access to Oreshnick impact site and can easily verify what Putin has said about its capabilities. It wouldn't make any sense for Putin to make claims about Oreshnick that weren't true. The missile didn't carry explosive payload, next one probably will. Power of a nuke, but without...

Multiple News Outlets are reporting the same story, some even word for word. Is this to prepare the public for deployment of NATO troops or West backing out of conflict after Oreshnik strike...

This is because of geographic nature of the conflict. In most of these cases they simply didn't get the word that the war was over, unlike the wars with a single frontline. Only 21 incidents are recorded per Wikipedia, but the way it is talked about one would think this was happening every other...

They are conflating what's justify with what can get away with and even at that they fall short.

Nothing special, this happens in all wars. There were still pockets of German resistance after German surender. ...... and yet there is no record of Japanese women taking up arms to defend their country in numbers similar to Soviets, Yugoslavs, Poles even Germans.

One would be hard pressed to find any side in any war that didn't proclaim it would fight to the last man. The fact is they didn't in WWII or prior wars.

Actually it was a thought provoking post.

U.S. had a hard time fighting them, Soviets not so much. They were defeated on the battlefield at Khalkhin Gol in 1939 and in Manchuria in 1945. They certainly didn't fight to the last man. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol Soviets also forced them to retreat from Lake...

By that time Soviet Army liberated Japanese occupied territories in China, Korea and Mongolia by defeating Japanese Kwantung Army. That was what stopped the slaughter of Chinese, not nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Also without a foothold on the mainland, Japan was cut off from supply of raw...

There are direct quotes from other important military figures, it stands to reason McArthur was of the same mind. In the end this was a political decision by Truman.

Have a ball. [109]Manchester, William. American Caesar: Douglas MacArthur 1880–1964, Dell, p. 512 [110]Norman Cousins writes, "When I asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked, would his advice have...

Spin vs Direct Quotes

I will go with opinion of these men, who were actually fighting the war. ____________________________________________ Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote in his memoir The White House Years: In 1945 Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was...

Japan never attacked U.S. mainland (Hawaii wasn't even a state at the time). By August of 1945 and after Soviet Union entered the war Japan was defeated and not a threat. There was no need to destroy two cities and kill thousands of civilians. Japan wasn't launching missiles or anything at the U.S.

There was less of a reason to nuke Japan, by that time it was no longer a threat.

That line was already crossed, guess by who.

I hope they torture and kill him. Fuck the British.

Russia is only partially mobilized. Their strategy is not to overrun and occupy Ukraine, but to slowly absorb and integrate territory town by town.

Soviet nuclear weapons were designed and assembled at the secret Arzamas-16 laboratory, near Moscow, and then finished at the KB-11 Installation in the secret city of Sarov: Arzamas-16 This laboratory was established in 1945 and was similar to Los Alamos. It was led by Igor Kurchatov, who made...

Minsk agreements had nothing to do with nukes. Ukraine never had nukes to give up. Soviet nuclear arsenal belonged to Russian Federation as Internationally recognized successor of the Soviet Union along with all of the nuclear treaties made by the Soviet Union.

Just a reminder to selective memory crowd. Russia invaded Ukraine after Ukraine refused to abide by signed Minsk agreements and stepped up the shelling of Russian population in Donbas. There were other demands, but that alone justified Russian invasion.

https://www.rt.com/russia/608078-oreshnik-all-we-know/

Here is a hint. When information is not disputed by either side, there is something there. Putin made a statement about this to the whole world and nobody is jumping at the chance to prove him wrong.

Slava Gas Station!!!!!

Not enough speed to stop Oreshnik ___________________________ Oreshnik (Russian: Орешник, lit. 'Hazel'),[2] according to Russian president Vladimir Putin, is a Russian intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM). The missile is claimed to have a speed higher of Mach 11 (13,500 km/h; 8,370 mph...

It's being reported that U.S. was warned about launching of this missile in accordance with nuclear safety protocol which is still in place. They thought it would target Kiev, but this time it was DnieproPETROVSK.

"The president also vowed to publicly announce any future strikes against the Ukrainian targets involving the ‘Oreshnik’ system “for humanitarian reasons” to let civilians leave a potentially dangerous zone. The announcements would not affect the effectiveness of the strikes, he added. A...

Putin addressed the nation, troops and adversaries. In responce to the attacks with ATACMS and Storm Shadows on Russian territory, which didn't accomplish their mission, Russia for the first time used its newest nuclear capable hypersonic ballistic missile "Oreshnik". There is nothing in any...

The dumbest post of this thread.